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Two codexes have been teased for January 2020 release, you can just see some of the cover art (or at least some placeholder art) in one of the images on Warhammer Community - the top one looks like it could be Sisters of Battle (looks Ecclesiastical anyway) and not sure what the other one is. Genestealer Cult? They seem to be releasing them at a decent rate anyway.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/10/15/warhammer-40000-the-codex-roadmap/
   
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Yeah, that Warcom piece was a waste of time- the dexes that were actually identified had already been announced. What we needed from them today was to be told exactly what the two dexes in January are- that would have been actual news.
   
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PenitentJake wrote:
What we needed from them today was to be told exactly what the two dexes in January are- that would have been actual news.

The previous article said Dark Angels and "the first xenos codex" - looks like it might be 'Nids?

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Two per month is nowhere near fast enough, especially in the context of marine wound updates and weapon profile adjustments.
   
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Looks like GSC to me, though it could be wishful thinking on my part.

Specifically I'm looking on the left hand side that looks like a cultist wearing goggles to me.

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im pretty sure even the cover arts are placeholder so its not worth trying to figure out which armies they are

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Both of those pieces of artwork are from the BRB so I wouldn't read into it

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Sterling191 wrote:
Two per month is nowhere near fast enough, especially in the context of marine wound updates and weapon profile adjustments.


Unlikely it even holds 2 per month. It took like 2 years for 8e to get most of codexes and that was with more urgency than 9e

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My money is on dark angels and gene stealer cults.
   
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Confirmation of which books are out in each month is useful, at least, even if not the most exciting - and given their divergencies, SW and DW make sense as coming out sooner.

No mention of anything accompanying the books, but that kinda makes sense on a roadmap piece.

I guess the unanswered question is whether each pair will drop on the same weekend or different onces.

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tneva82 wrote:
Sterling191 wrote:
Two per month is nowhere near fast enough, especially in the context of marine wound updates and weapon profile adjustments.


Unlikely it even holds 2 per month. It took like 2 years for 8e to get most of codexes and that was with more urgency than 9e
August 2017
September 2017
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November 2017
January 2018
January 2018
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June 2018
September 2018
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February 2019
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July 2019
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8th wasn't actually that fast, most of the time it was 1 codex per month. So 2 per month is faster.
   
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Yep. Which is why i don't expect 2 per month to hold for 9e either. They didn't rush like that in 8e and that was edition that Needed codexes out faster than 9e. 8e all didn't have codex to start with. 9e does

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Azuza001 wrote:
My money is on dark angels and gene stealer cults.


Dark angels is already confirmed here: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/09/12/the-codex-show/

The other is Xenos, so GSC could be possible. Given that 'Lieutenant' style models have been teased for Orks and Dark Eldar, I'd give them extra weight for the January Xenos book (and yes, that is also confirmed in the september article and the new one)

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I want to be wrong (pulling for Drukhari), but the more I think about it the more I am able to convince myself it would be a Harlequin codex. Quite possibly the only xenos playerbase that doesn't want their army changed right now. All the psychic awakening rules are still available except the ones from the white dwarf, which is why I think Deathwatch are one of the first books.

   
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Well since Orkz had to wait 4 years between 7th and 8th edition codex's if we get one in January that would be a pleasant surprise.

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I’d have thought GW would first target thier biggest sellers so must be Orks for xenos, right? But that image isn’t orky.

Any chance it could be a new army, could we be in for a curve ball????
   
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Given the Marine and Necron releases, I'd be surprised it was something new.

Although there's got be a Hrud release at some point.
   
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mrFickle wrote:
I’d have thought GW would first target thier biggest sellers so must be Orks for xenos, right? But that image isn’t orky.

Any chance it could be a new army, could we be in for a curve ball????


Since GW can't figure out balance with what they currently have they probably need to tone down the new factions. I mean, how many "new" factions did they invent in 7th and 8th?

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Since GW can't figure out balance with what they currently have they probably need to tone down the new factions. I mean, how many "new" factions did they invent in 7th and 8th?


I don't disagree with your assessment on GW's capabilities, but I doubt that'd stop them. Not adding another faction would likely be due to production considerations or cost-benefit assessments.
Two. So it's more likely than it was before 7th. Maybe even 2.5 or 3 if you count Primaris (I don't but worth mentioning)???

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DA's the 5th one but I'd have considered sisters if DA wasn't already mentioned to be coming thanks to the brightness and angelic wings. It does also make a degree of sense to get all the standalone chapters quickly due to their changes to supplements. I'm guessing that if they remained standalone, they'd at least have considered leaving them for later.

The cover art may not be completely telling but there's little point to having anything at all if they were doing pure placeholders. I though Nids myself but that was before I looked outside the center bit. The goggle/tech (aka not flesh) looking bit convinces me that GSC is what they're hinting at. I'm sure GSC players are going to be happy to see that. While they need improvements, I'm not sure that was the best selection.

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2 books a month is almost assuredly not going to continue. Out of the eight displayed through Jan, only half are actual dex's. I'm not going to count a real dex + marine supplement as two dex releases every month personally, but I have to concede that others might.
   
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World Eaters Codex at January, yes please (not gonna happen)

But yeah its probably Tau that is 'redacted'. Because GW loooooooves their Tau.

Chaos Space Marines can be expected in 2021... nice :(

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World Eaters Codex at January, yes please (not gonna happen)

But yeah its probably Tau that is 'redacted'. Because GW loooooooves their Tau.

Chaos Space Marines can be expected in 2021... nice :(


...you do realise that 2021 is less than three months away at this point, right?

And that the only full Codex left to be released in 2020... is a Chaos SM book, right?

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My guess is Dark Angels and Nids for January.

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tneva82 wrote:
Yep. Which is why i don't expect 2 per month to hold for 9e either. They didn't rush like that in 8e and that was edition that Needed codexes out faster than 9e. 8e all didn't have codex to start with. 9e does


I wouldn't either. Four of those six are supplements, not even a full codex.

And yes, they've already told us one of the first in 2020 will be Dark Angels. I'm happy for BA players, I still remember the year the closest they got to a Codex was a White Dwarf Article.

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I stand corrected on the cover art after reading directives to the BBB. The supposed DA one is just imperium art in the Indom BBB pg 26, xenos-ish was just pg 34. For those thinking it was Chaos, their image would likely be the one on pg 37 and would be counter to their xenos dex claims to begin with.
   
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tneva82 wrote:
Yep. Which is why i don't expect 2 per month to hold for 9e either. They didn't rush like that in 8e and that was edition that Needed codexes out faster than 9e. 8e all didn't have codex to start with. 9e does


I wouldn't either. Four of those six are supplements, not even a full codex.

And yes, they've already told us one of the first in 2020 will be Dark Angels. I'm happy for BA players, I still remember the year the closest they got to a Codex was a White Dwarf Article.


Those seem to be very thick books to just be supplements. Now GW could have resized them just for the picture art, but I think they are too lazy to do that.


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Both the January '21 codex covers there are definitely just placeholder art. The top one is the frontispiece for the 'Rule of the Imperium' section of the 9th edition Core Book (right before the bit about Space Marines). The bottom one is the frontispiece for the 'Perils of the Unknown' section (which talks about Xenos races). So one SM codex and one Xenos codex sounds likely.

EDIT: I don't know whether lots of people are posting at once or whether the forum's just being buggy, but literally half the posts above this one weren't there when I posted...

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Karol wrote:


Those seem to be very thick books to just be supplements. Now GW could have resized them just for the picture art, but I think they are too lazy to do that.



BA, DA, DW, and SW are all supplements to the Space Marine Codex that just came out. They've already announced this.

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Karol wrote:
Those seem to be very thick books to just be supplements. Now GW could have resized them just for the picture art, but I think they are too lazy to do that.

Err... they don't literally prop the books up and take photographs of them, you know? Those are digitally created mock-ups for marketing purposes. That's why they're all apparently the same thickness despite some being supplements and others full codexes.

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Karol wrote:


Those seem to be very thick books to just be supplements. Now GW could have resized them just for the picture art, but I think they are too lazy to do that.



Previous supplements were 64-80 ish pages (and looked thicker than that number suggests in official photos). Those were only a handful of unique units/characters, rules, fluff, and art (including models). Compiling everything over the years into these new supplements and some extra unique aspects (in comparison) can likely increase the page count for these supplements as well.

It also looks like they're all the same size, suggesting that this is just a pasting of an image onto generic codex shaped assets. That's far easier than taking separate photos for each book.
   
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True, but PA books had what 2-3 armies per book. Those have one army in them, although I could be wrong of course.

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