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Some questions.

- Can SW use "Fury of the First (1 CP): Select a TERMINATOR unit during either the shooting or fight phase. This unit adds +1 to their hit rolls."?

- Not a rule question per say, can other non SW terminators take combi weapon on them?

- When SW take combi plasma, can you choose to shoot only the plasma part and not get the -1 to hit?

I just imagine 10 SW terminators with 8 plasma (and 2 rocket launchers) hitting on 2+ and re-rolling 1 from a wolf lord (or Bjorn.) Sounds like a good way to grab the midboard. Have some number of shields for a 2+ 4++ with +1 on the armour save.

Good news (/s), the SW codex is no longer valid. You have to use Index Astartes: Space Wolves. https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/?orderby=post_created&order=desc#warhammer-40000

The rules presented in the 8th edition (printed 2018) version of Codex: Space Wolves are no longer supported, and cannot be used. Similarly, if a Space Wolves rule from Psychic Awakening: Saga of the Beast does not feature within this document, it cannot be used. When Codex Supplement: Space Wolves is released, all of the rules within that will then replace and supersede this entire document, at which point none of the rules here can be used.

Fury of the First is no longer a legal stratagem to use as it does not show up in Index Astartes: Space Wolves.

Vanilla Codex Terminator Squads cannot take combi weapons in any capacity. Luckily (for now) there is still the Wolf Guard Terminator entry in the Index Astartes: Space Wolves that lets you equip any number of models in the unit with a combi weapon. Don't expect this to still be a thing when the Supplement comes out, as it's a good chance they'll axe the Wolf Guard Terminator entry in its entirety and I'd be surprised if they gave them special wargear options.

All combi weapons work the same way, you can fire either the Bolter profile, the other profile, or both profiles at -1 to hit (keep in mind that Plasma now only explodes on an unmodified 1, so you can "safely" fire both halves of a Combi-Plasma without an increased chance of death.

 BaconCatBug wrote:
Vanilla Codex Terminator Squads cannot take combi weapons in any capacity. Luckily (for now) there is still the Wolf Guard Terminator entry in the Index Astartes: Space Wolves that lets you equip any number of models in the unit with a combi weapon. Don't expect this to still be a thing when the Supplement comes out, as it's a good chance they'll axe the Wolf Guard Terminator entry in its entirety and I'd be surprised if they gave them special wargear options.

This was my thinking too. If Wolf Guard Termies are going to get their own entry in the new Codex, I don't see any reason for the existing "standard" datasheets to mention Wolf Guard at all, so it seems unlikely they will be there.

I was under the impresion SW, DA, BA etc. could use the non chapter spesific stratagems in the SM codex, and would be abel to continue doing so when the codex suplement comes out? That is where I found Fury of the first.

 Niiai wrote:
I was under the impresion SW, DA, BA etc. could use the non chapter spesific stratagems in the SM codex, and would be abel to continue doing so when the codex suplement comes out? That is where I found Fury of the first.

Ok, so, I totally misunderstood the question.

Yes, your Wolf Guard Terminators, or Vanilla Terminators with WOLF GUARD keyword can use Fury of the First. SW have access to all the stratagems in the SM codex as long as it is is an ADEPTUS ASTARTES detachment (which it should always be).

I had it in my head that Fury of the First was a SW codex stratagem. I am sorry for dropping the idiot ball on my head.

But any update on question 2 and 3?

- Not a rule question per say, can other non SW terminators take combi weapon on them?

- When SW take combi plasma, can you choose to shoot only the plasma part and not get the -1 to hit?

Also a 4th follow up question. These are the tags for Log Fangs. Can long fangs benefit from fury of the first if I have the cyclone missiles terinator?

'FACTION KEYWORDS: Imperium, Adeptus Astartes, Space Wolves
KEYWORDS (WOLF GUARD PACK LEADER): Infantry, Core, Wolf Guard
KEYWORDS (WOLF GUARD TERMINATOR PACK LEADER): Infantry, Core, Terminator, Wolf Guard
KEYWORDS (OTHERS): Infantry, Core, Long Fangs'

 Niiai wrote:
- Not a rule question per say, can other non SW terminators take combi weapon on them?

No, not even the relic Terminators.

- When SW take combi plasma, can you choose to shoot only the plasma part and not get the -1 to hit?

Yes, that's correct.

Also a 4th follow up question. These are the tags for Log Fangs. Can long fangs benefit from fury of the first if I have the cyclone missiles terinator?

The strat specifies it only triggers when a Terminator model fires. So the Wolf Guard Terminator can use the strat, but the Long Fangs themselves don't benefit.

 BaconCatBug wrote:
Good news (/s), the SW codex is no longer valid. You have to use Index Astartes: Space Wolves. https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/?orderby=post_created&order=desc#warhammer-40000

The rules presented in the 8th edition (printed 2018) version of Codex: Space Wolves are no longer supported, and cannot be used. Similarly, if a Space Wolves rule from Psychic Awakening: Saga of the Beast does not feature within this document, it cannot be used. When Codex Supplement: Space Wolves is released, all of the rules within that will then replace and supersede this entire document, at which point none of the rules here can be used.

Fury of the First is no longer a legal stratagem to use as it does not show up in Index Astartes: Space Wolves.

Vanilla Codex Terminator Squads cannot take combi weapons in any capacity. Luckily (for now) there is still the Wolf Guard Terminator entry in the Index Astartes: Space Wolves that lets you equip any number of models in the unit with a combi weapon. Don't expect this to still be a thing when the Supplement comes out, as it's a good chance they'll axe the Wolf Guard Terminator entry in its entirety and I'd be surprised if they gave them special wargear options.

All combi weapons work the same way, you can fire either the Bolter profile, the other profile, or both profiles at -1 to hit (keep in mind that Plasma now only explodes on an unmodified 1, so you can "safely" fire both halves of a Combi-Plasma without an increased chance of death.

I can't for the life of me understand why you think this is good news. It's quite clear now the snowflake factions are still going to be just as snowflake except they got a cash grab by needing two books. Now, instead of easy to understand seperat datasheet we have a hot mess of exceptions and alternative rules for sub factions... The game is way worse off for this decision.

Also, it is incredibly unlikely wolfgaurd termies will lose their datasheet and be axed. GW isn't going to axe the war gear and datasheet of an actively sold and current kit. Now SW players are simply going to have the option :restricted war gear and teleport hommers or combi, shields and whatnot with no Homer. Also let's not forget that wolf gaurd additions willikely be given to swift claws (bikers) and maybe even primaris will be given further exceptions to take wolfgaurd. This will be honestly one of the most confusing times to play a snowflake marine faction in history. But at least GW makes money selling two books XD

 Type40 wrote:
I can't for the life of me understand why you think this is good news.

I think you missed the /s.

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 Type40 wrote:
I can't for the life of me understand why you think this is good news.

I think you missed the /s.

I am old and unwise ... I was unaware of what /s meant lol... sorry bud... I now am aware of the sarcasm XD.

 Type40 wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 Type40 wrote:
I can't for the life of me understand why you think this is good news.

I think you missed the /s.

I am old and unwise ... I was unaware of what /s meant lol... sorry bud... I now am aware of the sarcasm XD.

No worries. As an old school fan of pre-yiffified Space Wolves myself, it's saddening to see what they have become.