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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/19 16:11:33
Subject: Guerilla Tactics and Eliminator Covering Fire
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Bounding Dark Angels Assault Marine
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Can Eliminators go into Strategic Reserve after shooting with Guerilla Tactics?
Guerilla Tactics - Can be played "in your movement phase" when a phobos unit is "selected to move"
Covering Fire - In the Shooting phase after shooting Eliminators can "make a Normal Move as if it were your Movement Phase"
It would be pretty helpful to be able to shoot a few shots then disappear and show up somewhere else and maybe grab an objective or something the next turn.
Is there something I am missing that says "as if it were your Movement Phase" is different that your actual Movement phase?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/19 16:16:51
Subject: Guerilla Tactics and Eliminator Covering Fire
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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Guerilla Tactics is used in your movement phase, do they shoot in their movement phase?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/19 16:35:17
Subject: Guerilla Tactics and Eliminator Covering Fire
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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ptlangley wrote:Can Eliminators go into Strategic Reserve after shooting with Guerilla Tactics?
Guerilla Tactics - Can be played "in your movement phase" when a phobos unit is "selected to move"
Covering Fire - In the Shooting phase after shooting Eliminators can "make a Normal Move as if it were your Movement Phase"
It would be pretty helpful to be able to shoot a few shots then disappear and show up somewhere else and maybe grab an objective or something the next turn.
Is there something I am missing that says "as if it were your Movement Phase" is different that your actual Movement phase?
You can make a normal move as if it were your Movement phase with Covering Fire, but you still play stratagems like it's your Shooting Phase (since it is the Shooting Phase). You haven't been given permission to treat it as the movement phase for anything other than making a normal Move.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/19 16:47:30
Subject: Guerilla Tactics and Eliminator Covering Fire
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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doctortom wrote:
You can make a normal move as if it were your Movement phase with Covering Fire, but you still play stratagems like it's your Shooting Phase (since it is the Shooting Phase). You haven't been given permission to treat it as the movement phase for anything other than making a normal Move.
This. Covering Fire allows you to act as though it were the Movement phase, only to perform a Normal Move. It doesn't let you do anything else Movement-phase specific.
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"Hard pressed on my right. My centre is yielding. Impossible to manoeuvre. Situation excellent. I am attacking." - General Ferdinand Foch |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/19 19:03:07
Subject: Guerilla Tactics and Eliminator Covering Fire
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Norn Queen
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"As if" is not the same as "is". There was an FAQ about this in 8th and, in typical GW fashion, they haven't re-clarified it in 9th.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/19 20:18:23
Subject: Guerilla Tactics and Eliminator Covering Fire
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
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BaconCatBug wrote:"As if" is not the same as "is". There was an FAQ about this in 8th and, in typical GW fashion, they haven't re-clarified it in 9th.
So what does p. 9 of the Core Rules booklet ( BRB p.204) do then?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/19 20:30:31
Subject: Guerilla Tactics and Eliminator Covering Fire
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Norn Queen
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Mr_Rose wrote: BaconCatBug wrote:"As if" is not the same as "is". There was an FAQ about this in 8th and, in typical GW fashion, they haven't re-clarified it in 9th.
So what does p. 9 of the Core Rules booklet ( BRB p.204) do then?
I had missed that. I guess my cynicism gets the better of me sometimes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/19 21:20:11
Subject: Guerilla Tactics and Eliminator Covering Fire
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Mr_Rose wrote: BaconCatBug wrote:"As if" is not the same as "is". There was an FAQ about this in 8th and, in typical GW fashion, they haven't re-clarified it in 9th.
So what does p. 9 of the Core Rules booklet ( BRB p.204) do then?
You mean the part that states "Phase-specific Stratagems cannot be used when resolving out-of-phase rules"?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/19 22:06:16
Subject: Guerilla Tactics and Eliminator Covering Fire
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
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doctortom wrote: Mr_Rose wrote: BaconCatBug wrote:"As if" is not the same as "is". There was an FAQ about this in 8th and, in typical GW fashion, they haven't re-clarified it in 9th.
So what does p. 9 of the Core Rules booklet ( BRB p.204) do then?
You mean the part that states "Phase-specific Stratagems cannot be used when resolving out-of-phase rules"?
Yes, that bit, the one Bacon said didn’t exist. Poor thing, all sad and neglected.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/20 00:50:52
Subject: Re:Guerilla Tactics and Eliminator Covering Fire
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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People make mistakes, he's admitted he made one. No need to make it personal.
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"Hard pressed on my right. My centre is yielding. Impossible to manoeuvre. Situation excellent. I am attacking." - General Ferdinand Foch |
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