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Gathering the Informations.

This Week on Warhammer Community
Throughout the next seven days, we’ll be continuing to take a look at the new season of Blood Bowl, including how to run your own league and more about the one and only Zolcath the Zoat. We’ll also be taking a look inside this year’s Warhammer 40,000 and Warhammer Age of Sigmar battleforces. These always-popular boxes are a great way to start a new army (or add to an existing one) and just happen to be coming out in time for Christmas.* We also have some last-minute tips for your Armies on Parade entry, and we’ll be showing off a scenario for this year’s Christmas model, Jakkob Bugmansson XI. Finally, we’ve got a full week of programmes on Warhammer TV – check out the schedule.


Previewed in the video for this week in Warhammer at the top of this page. They show off a Gloomspite Gitz, Ogre Mawtribes, Imperial Guard, and Tau Empire battleforce.
They appear at 0:43.

Age of Sigmar preview

Warhammer Community preview of the 6 Battleforces plus the Blood Angels Combat Patrol


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Battleforces were $170 to $185 (£110) last year it will be interesting to see this years prices.

I need 1 more Mancrusher Gargant but they only do the double set now so I might be tempted by the Ogors if the price is right (£60 for 2 Gargants vs. £88 for 1 plus a load of Ogors)

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Starts at 0:42 in the video

Gloomspite:
6 stone trolls
1 big Dankhold troll
1 boss on squig
...14 squig riders. Somehow. The normal box is 10 from 3 sprues, so I have no idea, but there's only 14 in the shot.

Tau:
messy as usual thanks to all the drones, but it looks like:
1 Commander
1 Broadside
3 Battlesuits
10 pathfinders
10 firewarriors
1 piranha

Ogres
Giant
Cannon-chariot
4 leadbelchers
4 great weapon ogres
12 regular ogres
the new tyrant

Guard- Cadians
1 Hydra
1 HWT box
1 Sentinel
1 Chimera
1 Cadian Command Squad
2 Cadian Squads

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 DaveC wrote:
Battleforces were $170 to $185 (£110) last year it will be interesting to see this years prices.

I need 1 more Mancrusher Gargant but they only do the double set now so I might be tempted by the Ogors if the price is right (£60 for 2 vs. £88 for 1 plus a load of Ogors)

Not all of them were £110, some were only £100 (and the AoS Skaven one was the only one at £120).
I fully expect them to be at least £120 this year, if not £130.

The Tau one looks particularly juicy, I'd have gotten two of them if I didn't have all those models already.


 
   
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Someone already ran the prices on the AoS deals on TGA forums:


Price comparison:

Gitz:
1x Dankhold Troggoth, £40
6x Rockgut Troggoths, £70
15x Squig Hoppers, £45 (Thought there are only 14 shown in the image but the sprues are in multiples of 5 so it has to be 15)
1x Loonboss on Giant Cave Squig, £22.5


Total: £177.5


Ogors:
1x Ogor Mawtribes Tyrant, £20
1x Ironblaster, £22.5
12x Ogor Gluttons, £60
4x Ironguts, £25
4x Leadbelchers, £25
1x Mancrusher Gargant, £37.5

Total: £190


Compared to last years Gitz box:

1x Mangler Squigs, £50
3x Rockgut Troggoths, £35
1x Loonboss, £17.5
10x Squig Hoppers, £30
5x Fanatics, £25

Total: £157.5 which retailed for £110

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It's hard to make a comparison with the Tau one of last year, as prices for some of those kits went up in the meantime.
The 2019 one had £152.50 of individual kits inside (using 2019 prices, before the increase of last June), sold at £100 RRP.
The 2020 one has £187.50 of individual kits inside. With a 33% off it would come at £125 RRP.

Anything between £120 and £130 RRP is a good guess for the new prices imho.

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Full Price comparison:
40k:

Tau:

1x T'au Empire Commander, £35.5
3x XV8 Crisis Battlesuit Team, £45
1x XV88 Broadside Battlesuit, £32.5
1x TX4 Piranha, £22.5
10x Fire Warriors, £30
10x Pathfinder Team, £25

Total: £190.5

For comparison last Tau box is £157.5 which retailed for £100

Astra Militarum:

1x Hydra, £35
1x Chimera, £30
1x Sentinel, £22.5
5x Cadian Command Squad, £22.5
3x Cadian Heavy Weapon Squad, £25
20x Cadian Shock Troops, £45 (21 shown but you can only get them in multiples of 5 so has to be 20)

Total: £180

For comparison last Guard box is £187.5 which retailed for £100
Or the Cadian Defense Force still available: £157.5 which for £110

AOS:
Gitz:
1x Dankhold Troggoth, £40
6x Rockgut Troggoths, £70
15x Squig Hoppers, £45 (Thought there are only 14 shown in the image but the sprues are in multiples of 5 so it has to be 15)
1x Loonboss on Giant Cave Squig, £22.5

Total: £177.5

Ogors:

1x Ogor Mawtribes Tyrant, £20
1x Ironblaster, £22.5
12x Ogor Gluttons, £60
4x Ironguts, £25
4x Leadbelchers, £25
1x Mancrusher Gargant, £37.5

Total: £190

Compared to last years Gitz box:

1x Mangler Squigs, £50
3x Rockgut Troggoths, £35
1x Loonboss, £17.5
10x Squig Hoppers, £30
5x Fanatics, £25

Total: £157.5 which retailed for £110

So either the discount is way bigger (not likely) or the Battleforces will be way more expensive this year

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Are Gloomspite just not selling that well? This is two years in a row that they have gotten a bundle.

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 Sasori wrote:
Are Gloomspite just not selling that well? This is two years in a row that they have gotten a bundle.


Their Battleforce last year was one of the best selling ones
   
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Yeah GW has to make these bundles so whilst I'm sure they might pick a force or two that might need some encouragement to people getting started; they are also going to focus on lines that sell really well.

Gloomspite are popular and GW wanted to push the Destruction angle more. Considering that they can't do much to bundle for Giants; they've got basically all of destruction in this already. The only ones missing are Orruks and they keep hinting at this big Waargh battle that's coming for them in the AoS lore.

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Please santa, bring us a titan maniple this year!

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I get the feeling its going to be 150gbp deals...

   
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SamusDrake wrote:
Please santa, bring us a titan maniple this year!

Warbringer + 4 Castigators/Archeron is my prediction (that would be £95 gwrp so maybe it will be 2x Warbringer, or 8x Knights).
   
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 Sasori wrote:
Are Gloomspite just not selling that well? This is two years in a row that they have gotten a bundle.


The opposite. GW determines the battleforces based on prior year sales - the best x many AoS factions (seems to be best 3 plus Stormcast) and y many 40k factions (seems to be 4-5 plus 1-2 Space Marines) get a box.

The contents of the boxes seem to be somewhat the opposite though. It seems they pair some of the best selling kits with the worst selling kits so as to try to entice people to buy the set and help them clear out excess stock of the less popular items.

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chaos0xomega wrote:
 Sasori wrote:
Are Gloomspite just not selling that well? This is two years in a row that they have gotten a bundle.


The opposite. GW determines the battleforces based on prior year sales - the best x many AoS factions (seems to be best 3 plus Stormcast) and y many 40k factions (seems to be 4-5 plus 1-2 Space Marines) get a box.

The contents of the boxes seem to be somewhat the opposite though. It seems they pair some of the best selling kits with the worst selling kits so as to try to entice people to buy the set and help them clear out excess stock of the less popular items.


Except it's extremely unlikely they will start ripping already packed boxes...so unlikely to be existing stock

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tneva82 wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
 Sasori wrote:
Are Gloomspite just not selling that well? This is two years in a row that they have gotten a bundle.


The opposite. GW determines the battleforces based on prior year sales - the best x many AoS factions (seems to be best 3 plus Stormcast) and y many 40k factions (seems to be 4-5 plus 1-2 Space Marines) get a box.

The contents of the boxes seem to be somewhat the opposite though. It seems they pair some of the best selling kits with the worst selling kits so as to try to entice people to buy the set and help them clear out excess stock of the less popular items.


Except it's extremely unlikely they will start ripping already packed boxes...so unlikely to be existing stock


They don't necessarily package every sprue they produce immediately. They warehouse some portion of their output in an unpackaged state, as flat-packed boxes and unpackaged sprues take up less volume than the packaged boxes do. This allows them to hold a small buffer stock to accelerate restocks and maintain product availability without requiring as much space as fully packaged products do.

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chaos0xomega wrote:
 Sasori wrote:
Are Gloomspite just not selling that well? This is two years in a row that they have gotten a bundle.


The opposite. GW determines the battleforces based on prior year sales - the best x many AoS factions (seems to be best 3 plus Stormcast) and y many 40k factions (seems to be 4-5 plus 1-2 Space Marines) get a box.

The contents of the boxes seem to be somewhat the opposite though. It seems they pair some of the best selling kits with the worst selling kits so as to try to entice people to buy the set and help them clear out excess stock of the less popular items.


Curious where you got this idea? The Battleforce assortments have also been conspicuously varied over the years, aside from obligatory Marine/Sigmarine offerings, which would suggest more of an editorial decision-making process. The sense I got was that they tried to cycle through the various factions, with certain practical limitations around price/plastic kit assortments, and nods to marketing practicalities (e.g. making Battleforces for each of the factions in a new starter box, or not making them for factions too close to a recent release window, as with Orks last year).

Anyway, just curious!
   
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JWBS wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
Please santa, bring us a titan maniple this year!

Warbringer + 4 Castigators/Archeron is my prediction (that would be £95 gwrp so maybe it will be 2x Warbringer, or 8x Knights).


Knight household with Titan support? Kinky...

An easy win would be a Warbringer, Cerastus knights and a pair of hounds.

Or they could blow our minds with three Warbringers!

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You know this is one year that I really don't feel I need/want a battleforce for any of the armies I collect. I'd be happier with some insane "3 for 2" offer on big models (such as Greater Demons)

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It was stated somewhere in like 2016 that thats how they were determined. Think it was a q&a at an event where the question was asked. Most of the boxes have corresponded to factions that received a release within the preceding timeframe, or are just perennial favorites (such as Tau who seem to get one almost every year)

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Kinda tempted by The Gitz. I love the models.

   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Kinda tempted by The Gitz. I love the models.


Oi!
This is the army finishing police here and you've still got your Ossiarchs!

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SamusDrake wrote:
JWBS wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
Please santa, bring us a titan maniple this year!

Warbringer + 4 Castigators/Archeron is my prediction (that would be £95 gwrp so maybe it will be 2x Warbringer, or 8x Knights).


Knight household with Titan support? Kinky...

An easy win would be a Warbringer, Cerastus knights and a pair of hounds.

Or they could blow our minds with three Warbringers!


if they do it, it'd be really interesting what they choose.
I'm down for another Warbringer and some diff cerastus for my Metalica.
   
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Thats cool!
Will have to wait until they are announced and then drop not so subtle hints to my missus

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AngryAngel80 wrote:
I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "


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I would much rather everyone have a half ass than no ass.


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Waah. I wanted terrain bundles...


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Waah. I wanted terrain bundles...



We've only seen 4 of the bundles - there's still room for terrain

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I got 2 of the Gloomspite sets last year, I’ll likely get 2 of these ones too.

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That's an underwhelming IG box - the Hydra is about the only interesting element in there.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...

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 Overread wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Kinda tempted by The Gitz. I love the models.


Oi!
This is the army finishing police here and you've still got your Ossiarchs!


Feth The Police!

   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 Overread wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Kinda tempted by The Gitz. I love the models.


Oi!
This is the army finishing police here and you've still got your Ossiarchs!


Feth The Police!


Dre would like to know if you have something to say, Ice...

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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...

tneva82 wrote:
You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... 
   
 
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