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Could this be the first look at the much speculated emperors children codex and models?

Probably not Emperor's Children, no. We saw that a January coin from the new GW 'in-store' incentives is a Hedonites of Slaanesh one.

Death Guard seem a lock though.

Decadence is probably Hedonites for AOS, and Decay is Death Guard for 40k.

*sad OP who forgot Age of Sigmar exists noises*

It's amazing how long it's taking them to make the obvious move of codexing and deamon primarching up Emps Kids and World Eaters. I know those models take some designing but I Imagine they also sell like hot cakes to collectors and gamers alike.

Dai wrote:
It's amazing how long it's taking them to make the obvious move of codexing and deamon primarching up Emps Kids and World Eaters. I know those models take some designing but I Imagine they also sell like hot cakes to collectors and gamers alike.

Listen, they have to do Marines, then green marines, then black-and-silver (not to be confused with black-and-white) marines, then dog marines, then red marines.

They have a lot to get through, be patient.

 Unit1126PLL wrote:

Dai wrote:
It's amazing how long it's taking them to make the obvious move of codexing and deamon primarching up Emps Kids and World Eaters. I know those models take some designing but I Imagine they also sell like hot cakes to collectors and gamers alike.

Listen, they have to do Marines, then green marines, then black-and-silver (not to be confused with black-and-white) marines, then dog marines, then red marines.

They have a lot to get through, be patient.

Well but by the time those are done then the other green marines, blue marines, gray marines, white marines, black-and-white marines, other-black-and-silver marines, and yellow-but-somtimes-blue-and-red marines will be out of date! You can't expect them to not have an update to get them in line with the dog marines green marines red marines silver marines and first black and silver marines can you??

Everyone forgets the silver marines and the gold marines.

 SagesStone wrote:
Everyone forgets the silver marines and the gold marines.

Given the gold marines aren't marines, it's reasonable to forget them in this context.

 Dysartes wrote:

 SagesStone wrote:
Everyone forgets the silver marines and the gold marines.

Given the gold marines aren't marines, it's reasonable to forget them in this context.

The Silver Skulls and the Brazen Minotaurs aren't Marines?

Technically the gold marines are marine-ier marines.

There new bone marines in the next issue of white dwarf

mrFickle wrote:
There new one marines in the next issue of white dward

Oh right, the Sand Marines.

So anyways, that's why you're waiting for attention on the other factions, Dai.

 Unit1126PLL wrote:

mrFickle wrote:
There new one marines in the next issue of white dward

Oh right, the Sand Marines.

So anyways, that's why you're waiting for attention on the other factions, Dai.

Nope just seen that us lucky ducks are getting another SM index!!!!

the_scotsman wrote:

 Unit1126PLL wrote:

Dai wrote:
It's amazing how long it's taking them to make the obvious move of codexing and deamon primarching up Emps Kids and World Eaters. I know those models take some designing but I Imagine they also sell like hot cakes to collectors and gamers alike.

Listen, they have to do Marines, then green marines, then black-and-silver (not to be confused with black-and-white) marines, then dog marines, then red marines.

They have a lot to get through, be patient.

Well but by the time those are done then the other green marines, blue marines, gray marines, white marines, black-and-white marines, other-black-and-silver marines, and yellow-but-somtimes-blue-and-red marines will be out of date! You can't expect them to not have an update to get them in line with the dog marines green marines red marines silver marines and first black and silver marines can you??

I wouldn’t be surprised if we got 1 Codex, 1 SM Supplement each month for the whole of next year tbh...

After DA in Jan, they’ve got BT needing a supplement and then I’m sure they’re going to want to give all the new goodies to the old ones...

Also gives them something to tie the inevitable constant stream of marine releases to.

mrFickle wrote:
There new bone marines in the next issue of white dwarf

Huh, are we actually getting updated gak for LotD?

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

mrFickle wrote:
There new bone marines in the next issue of white dwarf

Huh, are we actually getting updated gak for LotD?

Unfortunately not - an index for the WD Chapter the Tome Keepers instead.

Oh right, sand marines were in this White Dwarf, sorry.

it's hard to keep all the different factions in this game straight some times, what with them all being marines.

EDIT:
Unless, by bone marines and sand marines we meant the same marines, in which case, I acknowledge that I may have been confused. Marine marines!

 Dysartes wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

mrFickle wrote:
There new bone marines in the next issue of white dwarf

Huh, are we actually getting updated gak for LotD?

Unfortunately not - an index for the WD Chapter the Tome Keepers instead.

Oh. Well that's disappointing. Incredibly so.

Well it's good to see that WD is giving some much needed support to the woefully underrepresented loyalist space marines.

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
Well it's good to see that WD is giving some much needed support to the woefully underrepresented loyalist space marines.

I dunno man, the shark marines don't have Space Marines riding Sharks yet, but the dog marines have Space Marines riding Dogs. When will we see support for shark marines??? It's disappointing to see such factions neglected.

love how the White Dwarf article is about making your own home brew marine chapter. "Just look at what we have done! Also we made a bespoke datasheet for a unique character that you cannot do so don't even worry about that home brewing thing! feth your dudes!"

Well it does mean that we are getting a Power Axe Primaris Captain which means more relic access. Meh.

 Lance845 wrote:
love how the White Dwarf article is about making your own home brew marine chapter. "Just look at what we have done! Also we made a bespoke datasheet for a unique character that you cannot do so don't even worry about that home brewing thing! feth your dudes!"

Yeah and as if people haven’t been doing this since rogue trader

What would be nice is if they stopped with the bespoke bs and actually put in robust tools to build "named characters". Then, build their own named characters using those rules. That way we are working with the same tools as the developers and can actually build our own home brew "chapter"/hivefleet/regiment/etc...

 Lance845 wrote:
What would be nice is if they stopped with the bespoke bs and actually put in robust tools to build "named characters". Then, build their own named characters using those rules. That way we are working with the same tools as the developers and can actually build our own home brew "chapter"/hivefleet/regiment/etc...

Eh I remember the old Tyranid one. It's a dream for any min-max power-player; a confusing nightmare for others. The problem is even with a custom engine only certain builds would rise to the top as powerful. By which point you're just getting dozens of people picking the same rough choices from the list.

 Overread wrote:

 Lance845 wrote:
What would be nice is if they stopped with the bespoke bs and actually put in robust tools to build "named characters". Then, build their own named characters using those rules. That way we are working with the same tools as the developers and can actually build our own home brew "chapter"/hivefleet/regiment/etc...

Eh I remember the old Tyranid one. It's a dream for any min-max power-player; a confusing nightmare for others. The problem is even with a custom engine only certain builds would rise to the top as powerful. By which point you're just getting dozens of people picking the same rough choices from the list.

1) that is an example of a poorly made one. Usually with a bloat of options that have clear winners and loosers competing for the same job.

2) How is that any different from right now at the unit level? "THIS named character is a better x than x so why ever take X when you can just have bespoke datasheet."

 Lance845 wrote:

 Overread wrote:

 Lance845 wrote:
What would be nice is if they stopped with the bespoke bs and actually put in robust tools to build "named characters". Then, build their own named characters using those rules. That way we are working with the same tools as the developers and can actually build our own home brew "chapter"/hivefleet/regiment/etc...

Eh I remember the old Tyranid one. It's a dream for any min-max power-player; a confusing nightmare for others. The problem is even with a custom engine only certain builds would rise to the top as powerful. By which point you're just getting dozens of people picking the same rough choices from the list.

1) that is an example of a poorly made one. Usually with a bloat of options that have clear winners and loosers competing for the same job.

2) How is that any different from right now at the unit level? "THIS named character is a better x than x so why ever take X when you can just have bespoke datasheet."

Well this is GW, after 30 odd years I know that they won't make a perfectly balanced one.
And the difference is at least with the unit level choices you have a specific model for each choice. If you introduce a custom system then either you're forced to convert or the custom options only relate to model deisgns build already. So you then have a system that's mostly what we have now just with a load more upgrade options that don't appear on the model.

WYSIWYG isn't a rule. + convert away.

And no. The only difference between that and what we have now is home brew is just "counts as X chapter" because you need/want the bespoke rules instead of actually being able to craft your own.

I would rather we all be able to craft our own.

 Lance845 wrote:
WYSIWYG isn't a rule. + convert away.

It might not be a rule but its an expectation most gamers have and it has been a rule for many years and is also a rule in many other wargames. Not universal but its pretty commonplace. Also there's a difference between a system that supports converting and one that requires converting (or perhaps requires converting to get access to a full roster/the best options). Heck if GW wanted to go and make Necromunda style leader models for each army I'm all for that; just not if we have to do it ourselves