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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander






London

And what are the achievements of your fragile Imperium? It is a corpse rotting slowly from within while maggots writhe in its belly. It was built with the toil of heroes and giants, and now it is inhabited by frightened weaklings to whom the glories of those times are half-forgotten legends. I have forgotten nothing and my wisdom has expanded far beyond mere mortal frailties. - Ahzek Ahriman, Legionary, Sorcerer, massive bookworm.


Ahem, enough of that.


It's been a fair while since I posted any of my work on here, even longer if you consider anything of worth. After several years of Imperial armies (5k Custodes, 4k Marines, 8k Knights/Titans, 2k AdMec and 4k Guard), I've decided to branch out a bit and try something completely new. My birthday last week provided an excellent opportunity, and so I was blessed with a Start Collecting Thousand Sons box, which I then expanded with some additional purchases. I thought "sod it, let's make a Dakka blog and see how I get on". The only experience I've had with Chaos was a Night Lords army I used back in 5th, so I'm essentially starting from scratch.

This could go one of many ways; Ideally I'd get some followers and share ideas/tips, or it could go tits-up and end up with digital equivalent of a tumbleweed in an old Western. Nonetheless let's see how I get on.



Concepts and Creations

This is a rough outline of the list I'm aiming for. I've never been an uber-competitive player and want to keep the balance. Additionally my FLGS is hoping to start an Escalation campaign after COVID, which I feel would tie-in nicely as I develop this army.

HQ
Ahriman - Disk of Tzeench
Exalted Sorcerer - Disk of Tzeench
Exalted Sorcerer

Elites
10x Scarab Terminators - 2x Soulreaper Cannons, 2x Hellfires
Hellbrute - Twin Las
Hellbrute - Twin Las

Troops
10x Rubric Marines - Soulreaper Cannon
10x Rubric Marines - Soulreaper Cannon
5x Rubric Marines - Soulreaper Cannon
5x Rubric Marines - Warpflamers
20x Tzaangors - Blades

Heavy Support
Defiler - Twin Las, Scourge (I just think it's a bloody awesome model, always loved the Defiler).



Beginnings

This is what I have to start with.



Received the SC box for my birthday on Monday, other goods arrived on Thursday. At the moment I'm working from home, there are times in my job where I can glue a few pieces together during a quiet period, so until I'm back commuting I hope to make good progress, and here's what I have so far.



First three Rubrics. I've left the Bolters unglued for ease of painting, realised with my Marines how difficult it can be. After dryfitting a Soulreaper to the completed ones however I may have to just glue the cannon in when building that figure, as the overhang on the vambraces make it near impossible to fit.

I've also been able to build my first of many Sorcerors (is Sorceror correct? Saying Sorcerer just looks a bit wrong in my eyes).



I wanted to make each one a bit more unique than just the standard figure on the box repeated multiple times. For this one I kept it simple for the time being and just gave him an alternate staff from the Exalted kit, makes him a bit more dynamic. A quick peruse through the Exalted kit shows a great many staff heads which will look nice scattered throughout the army.

Small progress for the time being but it'll pick up soon I hope.


Next Steps

Before I commit to painting there are a few obstacles I need to consider, the main ones being "What colours do I go for?" and "How am I going to paint them?", small triffling concerns in this hobby...

The first question might be straight forward, I kinda want to stay with the standard blue/yellow, but would like to incorporate some purple into the mix, as it's mine and my fiancee's favourite colours. I'm thinking purple robes and the odd bit of OSL from the staffs, etc.

For the second question it'll be a great opportunity to use my new toy...


I've heard nothing but praise for Harder & Steenbeck, and even opening the box you can just tell that it's a decent piece of kit. It just feels solid and well-built. I kinda don't want to use it to avoid it getting dirty!

If anyone does have any decent guides as to how to care for your airbrush, please feel free to link them below.

Setting this up might take a while as I'm still sourcing a decent compressor. My previous one was a £40 piece of Chinese-built crap from Amazon; if you're going to get into airbrushing, a cheap piece of kit is a good place to start, but expect it to break down. If you decide you want to develop this skill further it's worth spending the extra money for a decent brand. In the meantime I hope to learn more about how to really take care of your airbrush and to ensure it'll last a lifetime.


If you're still reading then congratulations, you're almost at the end!


My final thought is on bases. Ideally I'd like to have at least the bases started so I have something to show, but I'm a little stuck on what to go for:

- Grey with small lava channels. I did this for a rather old GK army I have kicking around somewhere and it looked pretty convincing. Only issue is that it was rather time and resource consuming, requiring applying basing material with PVA, scraping out channels, spraying varnish and then painting the channels in red/orange/yellow/gloss varnish.

- More simple approach with GW texture, I'm thinking a layer of Armageddon Dust, washed and drybrushed to suit with small tufts of dried/yellowish grass. It'd be simpler and would contrast the blue nicely.

I'm leaning towards the first option but would welcome any other ideas. If anyone has any examples to show (doesn't have to be TS), I would appreciate it.


There we are, the end of a long and winding post that I wrote at midnight after finishing off a bottle of wine that I used in tonight's dinner. I hope to keep this updated rather regularly but as with everything in 2020 this may change.

Thanks for reading, hope to hear your comments below.


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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander






London

So...close to 150 views and not a single comment. At least I was correct on the tumbleweeds.

A nice quiet Monday at work today has allowed me to finish assembling the first squad of Rubrics. As before I've omitted the weapons to aid panting later on.



I've also taken the time to have a look at the Exalted Sorcerer kit, which I'm really, really impressed by. Part of me wasn't too keen on the box-models; I wanted to stay a bit more grounded in reality (ironic) and avoid the mutated or avian look, which the kit easily allows you to do with one exception; the talons on the floating one. After some umm'ing and ahh'ing about the right parts here's the result.






For some reason I absolutely love how he's turned out. He looks Chaotic, but not as comically over the top as some of the new Chaos lot look IMO. To me, he looks more like the darker 3rd-5th Edition classic Chaos models which I'm happy with.

You might have to excuse the crappy photos as I don't have a decent setup at the moment. Does anyone know how to get a decent phone photo? It's an S20 Ultra if that matters.

Cheers,
Valk

   
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Master of the Hunt





Philadelphia

When in doubt, put the model in a fridge and take a phot.

Otherwise any of the iPhones that are from iPhone 5 and later should be great at taking photos. Most of my professional/commission photos are taken with an iPhone before I bought a mirrorless/camera and got a lightbox

Solid list to start. What was your plans for basing/planet?

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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander






London

 Stevefamine wrote:
When in doubt, put the model in a fridge and take a phot.

Otherwise any of the iPhones that are from iPhone 5 and later should be great at taking photos. Most of my professional/commission photos are taken with an iPhone before I bought a mirrorless/camera and got a lightbox

Solid list to start. What was your plans for basing/planet?


A fridge? Would never have thought of that. Thanks for that Do you have any recommendations for camera settings in addition?

I've been thinking about the bases. Until I can get a decent compressor I almost certainly won't be airbrushing anything, but for the bases I think I might go with the desert planet idea; while I do like the lava option, the grey would be too similar to the bases of my Marines whereas I'm hoping to try something completely different.


   
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander






London

Small update today...

Have decided to try out the new airbrush. Fixed up a decent compressor and it completely blows the previous one out of the water. If this blog fails (which seems likely at the moment), or if anyone reading this takes just one piece of advice away with them, it's that it's always worth spending more on these pieces of kit. A cheap Chinese airbrush/compressor is useful at learning this technique, but a decent setup can cost a good couple hundred pounds, and it's definitely worth it. .

Anyway. I've applied a couple layers onto my next Sorceror. Started with Vallejo French Blue with an overcoat of Light Sea Blue. This looked too bright and flat for what I was going for, so I finished it off with a light coat of Nuln Oil to add depth.



I'm not so sure on it to be honest. I think the Nuln Oil has helped, but it still looks too flat for what I'm hoping for. I suspect the shades used are too different, might try a different combo to get a more subtle effect.

On the plus side I've also started the bases, which is actually quite therapeutic at times:



From left to right:

- Armageddon Dust
- Earthshade
- Ushabti Bone
- Army Painter Mountain Tufts.

I'm pretty happy with it. I may have preferred a more "cracked, dry lakebed" texture but this one works just fine, I just need to decide what to paint the rims.


So overall I have the following things to decide:
- Should I carry on with the current blue scheme or try something more subtle? Anyone have any experience airbrushing Thousand Sons and could share their recipes?
- Should I keep the base rims black, or go for the brown/bone as per the base itself?
- What to add to the force next? I'm torn between either the Hellbrute or getting a Defiler second-hand. Problem is, I'd much rather go for the classic TS Dreadnought, not a fan of the fleshy Hellbrute, so sourcing it is going to be difficult.

Thanks for reading. Any comments or feedback is appreciated.


   
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander






London

With the weekend drawing to a close I've made some progress in determining the final colours of the force.

I've decided to stay with the standard blue/yellow, and despite my prior concerns the airbrushed finish has actually turned out pretty well.



After the blue had dried I used GW White and Flash Gits Yellow for the yellow banding. I'm leaning more towards Vallejo paints rather than GW but I think their white is still pretty good at getting a solid coat. The gold areas were a nice even coat of Scale75 Dwarven Gold, before the whole model was given a coat of Agrax Earthshade, moreso on the banding and gold parts.

Might be a bit odd using brown wash on blue but this seems to work really well. It creates a nice shading effect between the gold and blue and mutes the yellow a bit, gives it a slightly earthier, richer tone. Controlling the wash and letting it pool slightly in the crevices also masks where the gold has slightly crossed into the blue.

Overall I'm really happy with this. I have one of the Exalted Sorcerers in progress, as well as Ahriman and 5x Rubrics undercoated ready to go. With Ahriman I'm planning something a bit ambitious; I'm hoping to get hold of the victim from the Szeras kit and place him on the base, with his soul/essence flying into Ahriman's hand instead of Szeras' wrist-gubbins. Haven't seen any examples of this so far, my main wonder is the height of this particular part, and wherever it could align with Ahriman's hand with some minor mods.

   
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I quite like that blue, it has a lot of depth to it.

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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander






London

So today I've been playing about with the new airbrush more, looking at some new techniques.

I wanted a nebula effect on the cloaks of my Sorcerers. Decided to just dive in with the airbrush and 20 mins later I came up with this:



It's simply a layer of Matt Black with varying smears of Vallejo Scarlet Red, Warlock Purple and Electric Blue, with additional smears of white mixed with each shade. The stars are then simply painted in, with a couple crossed to give the impression of twinkling.

I decided to take this a bit further when it came to Ahriman.



To create the eclipse I made a mask out of tape, using a US dime I had lying around from a trip to Vegas. The dime was slightly smaller than a UK 10p and had a smooth edge compared to the ridges on UK coins. Once the mask was applied I painted the nebula shades as before, then added a haze of white to represent the solar corona. Since the picture was taken I've filled out the top-right in black again; I was aiming for the effect where the sun begins to emerge from the eclipse, but I wasn't 100% happy with it so decided to scrap that bit.

Someone has suggested I grab a bottle of Culture Hustle's Black 2.0 for the centre of the eclipse. If you've heard of Vantablack, it's now available in a paint. I'm very tempted to grab a bottle, but I'm not sure if I need 150mls of the stuff.

Thanks for reading. Next time I hope to have a few more Rubrics ready to go, as well as some more work on Ahriman.

   
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Maddening Mutant Boss of Chaos





Boston

Love those robes! Very nice effect, and very Thousand-Sonsy. Great work so far!

   
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Morphing Obliterator





rAdelaide

That cloak looks awesome
   
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Procrastinator extraordinaire





Edinburgh, UK

Cloaks are looking good, always like the nebula effect on minis but never get round to trying it on my own minis.

Good choice with the infinity, I have the Evolution and the change between that and the cheap one that came with my compressor is phenomenal.

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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander






London

Bit of a late update I'm afraid, too many work packages coming in, not enough time to paint!

Anyway, thanks for the comments on the capes. I admit I did surprise myself with how good they've turned out. Over the past few days I've been further working on the Sorcerers and Rubrics to really get confident with the colours, and I've learned two things:

1: Agrax Earthshade is a surprisingly good tone to use with blue.
2: I'm bloody sick of painting gold trim.



Here's the latest work on the first Aspiring Sorcerer. He's pretty glossy at the moment ready for decals, before I realised I ran out of decal softener. Did try a shoulder decal without the softener and it was just...awful. I do plan to have the standard TS snake symbol on the pauldron, with various runes/etc on the tabards.



3 of the Rubrics. Out of the 20 I have built I have around 9 undercoated with these 3 being the most completed. Anyone who read my earlier comment about leaving the Bolters off until after painting, don't bother. There's a small lip on the right arm that makes it a bugger to actually get the gun on once the arms are attached.

At the moment I'm just wondering how to paint the actual Boltguns. As you can see I've painted a bit of gold trim on them, but as for the actual weapon body I'm still looking for ideas.




And finally the WiP Sorcerer. I've left the backpack unattached for the time being so I can sort out the braziers. Still undecided wherever to go with traditional fire or green/white ethereal flames, although I'm leaning towards the latter.

The tabards I'm still choosing a colour for. I'd rather avoid white to be honest, even though it's a nice contrast to the purple. I just don't really have the patience to try to get a decent shading on white robes. Any other colour suggestions would be appreciated.

Once again, thanks for reading.

   
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Morphing Obliterator





rAdelaide

These are looking amazing. Those colours are popping!
   
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Southampton, UK

Yes, loving your work!
   
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Primered White





Tangentville, New Jersey

This is making me want to grab some Thousand Sons now and I don't even play 40K these days!

That's some seriously amazing work. Keep the updates coming; I'm very curious to see how this all turns out.


 
   
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Warped Arch Heretic of Chaos





I love the nebula.

maybee use the colours for it on the boltgun with the brighter parts beeing the ammo and glyphs and the darker parts the higher areas, i'd say depending upon how you'd do that that could look great and tie them in to their sorcerer(s)?

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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander






London

Update 21/12/2020:

Apologies for the lack of an update. Unfortunately work hasn't calmed down as much as I hoped, but I've managed to make some progress nonetheless.

As mentioned previously I was considering getting a bottle of "Black 2.0", said to be one of the most blackest paints commercially available. At only £10ish for a large bottle I thought I'd give it a go, as the results on the website look quite promising.



So you can see you do get a decent amount for your money. As mentioned on the website it's a standard acrylic paint, and overall it goes just as well as standard Citadel paint, if a little prone to drying too quickly.

I gave it a go on Ahriman's cloak in the eclipse and overall, I'm rather disappointed with the result. I couldn't get a decent photo of the cloak so here's my best attempt with some spare Marine backpacks.



From left to right we have
- Standard GW black primer spray
- Primer and Army Painter Matt Black
- Primer and Black 2.0

I think the photos hide the true extent of the finish. In reality the Black 2.0 backpack is much less of the "void" effect that the website promotes, and just looks very matt, not even enough to really justify the effort. The texture is rather odd too, similar to that of a chalkboard. Personally, I wouldn't recommend this product, I think the website images are rather misleading and you'll almost certainly not get the void effect they advertise. [/color]

Anyway, I've also taken the time to start another Exalted Sorcerer. I do rather like the parts used for this one. While I didn't want to go too avian in terms of mutations and such, I think avian-themed armour adornments are rather fitting, and this works pretty well.



So while I still have his tabards to work on, I've been able to do another nebula-effect cloak:



Thanks for the positive feedback on the other cloaks, here's a group shot.



Initially I was a bit worried that it'd be a bit "samey" but it really seems to be working well.

In the meantime I've also been working on the Tzaangors. I've always been a bit dubious about these guys, as IMO they seem a bit shoehorned into the 40k universe. I'm also surprised by the kit, as all we get are options for Tzaangor Blades or Autopistols, yet the kit contains options for Great Weapons, Swords/Shields and odd twin-headed mutants. To me, this is really weird as it's the opposite of GW's "No model, no rules" policy, and would it have killed for them to include rules for these upgrades?

Still, thought I'd include them somehow. I decided to go with the Tzaangor Blades, with a couple of Great Weapons thrown in for variety, and the two-headed mutant will be a good representation of the Twisbray leader.

These guys are disposable cannon fodder essentially, so I'm not going to go all out painting them. I've just gone with Contrast Blue over a sprayed grey basecoat, with additional details painted by brush where necessary. Here's the current work on the Twistbray.



I think the photo is a bit oversaturated but the Contrast paints are a really nice way to paint the musculature easily. The head is just a mix of red and whites to look fleshy (unlike a Lord of Change's heads, this is literally one head split down the middle), and the weapons are just Contrast green.

I think I cocked up a bit with the grey spray, and it hasn't settled as thin as it should, but I think I managed to save it. Like I said these guys will probably die pretty quickly in battle, so I'm not going to waste hours blending and highlighting 20 of these.


And to finish off this pre-Christmas update, I exchanged presents over a substantial meal and more substantial drinking last night, and got a set of Flamers of Tzeench.I think the last time I had a set of these was back in 4th when they were metal, and one of the most fiddly and annoying kits ever produced IMO.

Decided to paint these up in a similar palette to the main TS force. The body is airbrushed Vallejo Electric Blue, with Warlock Purple and White at the top and bottom respectively. The whole thing is then given a decent wash of GW purple. The flames are then redone in white before a generous coat of Contrast green. Overall I'm pretty happy with how this has turned out.



Well that's it for tonight. For anyone who's reading this, have a very happy and safe Christmas, and thanks for taking your time to read this, any feedback is appreciated.

   
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander






London

Another update, the last of this weird, weird year.

Hope everyone had a good Christmas season. Between the turkey and socks I've made a decent bit of progress expanding the army.

A small update with the Flamers, I've added a highlight of Vallejo Yellow Green to the Warp Lightning Contrast paint. For regular highlighting I think it'd be a bit too thick and extreme but for Warpfire it seems to work quite well.



I'm also a bit acutely aware that the close-ups make the overall finish look a bit crappy. Overall it looks much better in person.

As well as turkey and socks there was also a fair bit of gin, the result of which being a deep plunge into Daemons of Tzeench.



While I've been working these last couple of days I've had plenty of time to put together the first couple of models, starting with the Screamers.



The black/white contrast on these photos is a bit haywire, but they're actually pretty nice models to put together. Next purchase would probably be another box of these to get a decent squad of 6 put together. In my opinion, a unit of 3 is more of a nuisance unit rather than actually doing any damage.

I've also put together the first stage of the Lord of Change.



This was more of a bugger to put together, the joins around the chest could be better defined in the instructions. It's at this point however I'm dealing with 2 dilemmas:

1: Obvious dilemma, do I go for the standard Lord of Change, or Kairos? Looking at the kit it may be possible to magnetise; the main difference between the two is the head situation, which attach to an upper-chest piece which attaches to the hole in the photo above. Part of me thinks it can work, the other part is being lazy and just might build it as Kairos, and can just play it as an LoC when needed. I can't imagine any decent player kicking up a fuss in a non-tournament environment.

2: How to paint the base? At the moment it's unattached and I'd like to do something special to the base first, something like this:



I want to iterate, this is not my work. I'd like to go for some sort of mystic, funky design like this but my painting skills are nowhere near as good as this. My other idea was to replicate the nebula effect from the Sorcerers' cloaks, but that may look a bit weird on the battlefield. Anyone have any thoughts or ideas?

Cheers for reading, I would appreciate anyone taking the time to give feedback or any comments, otherwise have a very Happy New Year!

   
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander






London

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That’s a good haul of Xmas minis, they’ll look great painted as vibrantly as the flamer! The cloaks look great, maybe the LoC’s base could use a similar theme to the cloaks, as though he/she is coming out of a black hole?

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Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine





Australia

Nice work!

Cloaks look great. I undercoated mine with Retributor Gold spray, so the gold trim wasn't as annoying. I really should get back to them, one day... lol

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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander






London

gobert wrote:That’s a good haul of Xmas minis, they’ll look great painted as vibrantly as the flamer! The cloaks look great, maybe the LoC’s base could use a similar theme to the cloaks, as though he/she is coming out of a black hole?


Thanks very much, I decided to keep it a bit simpler with the LoC base, as described below.

Zillian wrote:Nice work!

Cloaks look great. I undercoated mine with Retributor Gold spray, so the gold trim wasn't as annoying. I really should get back to them, one day... lol


That's a good idea, I think maybe in hindsight the gold won't actually show up against the space-effect however.


So, another year another update! Hope everyone had a good Christmas and New Year, and hope all you US readers are doing well despite what's all going on.

Have made some more progress with the Flamers, with 4 of the 6 now ready to use. I'm actually rather impressed with the rules for these guys; nothing like the original "Ap2 template that auto-penetrated vehicles on 4+" shenanigans but still impressive for their cost and platform.



Just two more of these to go. I am considering getting another SC Daemon box to bring the numbers up, but 9 Flamers does seem a bit excessive, may just sell that bit off and get some money back.

I've also begun the remaining Screamers. Love these models. While they're nothing special to assemble the...Chaos-ness of these things is really awesome, and once you paint the creepy eyes they really do pop. The photo has wiped out some of the vibrancy of these however, my mediocre photography skills combined with the crappy lights in my flat isn't really doing these justice.




Now onto the Lord of Change. I did try to paint a nebula effect using real NASA images as inspiration, as I hoped the larger base would give me a bigger canvas. First attempt looked like a horrible bruise, second looked like the Pepsi logo. At this point it was 1am so I decided to just go with the same base as the rest of the army but with something to make it stand out.



The crack is simply a thick layer of Green Stuff which I've allowed to harden slightly before taking a tool and just hacking at it to create the cracks. The hands are simply spare Pink Horror hands, painted in the same way. I did wonder wherever to fill the crack with Black 2.0 but decided against it as it might just look unfinished. With the earlier disappointment of Black 2.0 I might just chuck it.



Painting the underside of this guy was a real chore. Eventually I was able to use Vallejo Brown as a base and to create a border with the blue, at which point I applied a coat of Vallejo Aged White, then a highlight of White with the compressor close to the lowest realistic pressure. I again realise that the photo has kinda bleached the effect sadly.



Wings were just Vallejo Light Blue with Warlock Purple applied on the tips, after which a couple of *very* light drybrushes of White were applied.



Thought I'd do a small conversion with this little guy, with a basecoat of White and a simple layer of Yellow Contrast, which has come out very nicely.


That's it for now I'm afraid, if you read this please do take the time to comment, it really is appreciated despite the godawful photography.


   
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Alluring Mounted Daemonette




Australia

Hey mate, nice update!


The colour transitions on the screamers and LoC came out really nicely - and clever (restrained!) highlighting on the wings. Love his little horror buddy too - that yellow contrast looks great!

The yellow touches on the warpflame of the flamers is cool too. Speaking of them, I regularly play with 9 flamers in 2k games - they probably are overkill but you can pretty much point them at anything you want deleted and it's gone.

The base for the big bird is just incredible. Great design, sculpting, and colour work. He's gonna be a really impressive piece all together!

I also agree that the tzaangor models don't really feel like a part of the 40k universe. I think that GW have missed an opportunity somewhere by not making a bunch of chaos-aligned human follower sprues with a bunch of mutations etc that can be mixed and matched to create cultists and gors of all flavours.

The blogs do tend to be pretty slow here; I get the frustration/disappointment that comes with getting lots of views and not many responses, though I haven't found a more active 40k forum yet. I like to remind myself that for every person that posts a response, 100+ have seen my update and thought "wow tzurk you are so talented and handsome, please don't stop sharing because I follow your progress every time I remember to stop by the P&M blogs section and am interested in your ideas and development as a painter and modeller!"

I am guilty of doing that a lot myself (and have done for your blog before!), or thinking that I have responded to an update when I haven't.

You can often get a more immediate response through other social media if you are looking for feedback and engagement, but I am partial myself to the idea of having all my stuff together in one place, even if it is slow and old fashioned.

I for one am looking forward to more - please do keep sharing!

t z you are k 
   
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Tangentville, New Jersey

The base (and the rest of the Lord Of Change) are coming out amazing! You make it look so easy...


 
   
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander






London

tzurk wrote:Hey mate, nice update!


The colour transitions on the screamers and LoC came out really nicely - and clever (restrained!) highlighting on the wings. Love his little horror buddy too - that yellow contrast looks great!

The yellow touches on the warpflame of the flamers is cool too. Speaking of them, I regularly play with 9 flamers in 2k games - they probably are overkill but you can pretty much point them at anything you want deleted and it's gone.

The base for the big bird is just incredible. Great design, sculpting, and colour work. He's gonna be a really impressive piece all together!

I also agree that the tzaangor models don't really feel like a part of the 40k universe. I think that GW have missed an opportunity somewhere by not making a bunch of chaos-aligned human follower sprues with a bunch of mutations etc that can be mixed and matched to create cultists and gors of all flavours.

The blogs do tend to be pretty slow here; I get the frustration/disappointment that comes with getting lots of views and not many responses, though I haven't found a more active 40k forum yet. I like to remind myself that for every person that posts a response, 100+ have seen my update and thought "wow tzurk you are so talented and handsome, please don't stop sharing because I follow your progress every time I remember to stop by the P&M blogs section and am interested in your ideas and development as a painter and modeller!"

I am guilty of doing that a lot myself (and have done for your blog before!), or thinking that I have responded to an update when I haven't.

You can often get a more immediate response through other social media if you are looking for feedback and engagement, but I am partial myself to the idea of having all my stuff together in one place, even if it is slow and old fashioned.

I for one am looking forward to more - please do keep sharing!


Thank you very much, I appreciate the sentiments.

KidCthulhu wrote:The base (and the rest of the Lord Of Change) are coming out amazing! You make it look so easy...


Thanks. I think one thing that's made it a bit easier is the compressor I'm using is much more reliable which is surprising as it's 33 years old. Being able to change the air pressure to suit your requirements brings out a whole new area of airbrushing.

   
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The pink horrors coming out of the base is a nice touch Valk, they really help expand the world outside of the base imo. Good work on the LOC too, you're nailing it so far

I wouldn't worry about the lack of responses thus far, I've been reading most blogs as I procrastinate but don't always comment. I have found it takes a couple of pages to get a blog off the ground and more content invites more people to read and comment. Instagram isn't in a bad spot for 40k material, you're more likely to get your work seen than posting in a sub reddit and seeing it lost to the ages.

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Tyranid Horde wrote:The pink horrors coming out of the base is a nice touch Valk, they really help expand the world outside of the base imo. Good work on the LOC too, you're nailing it so far

I wouldn't worry about the lack of responses thus far, I've been reading most blogs as I procrastinate but don't always comment. I have found it takes a couple of pages to get a blog off the ground and more content invites more people to read and comment. Instagram isn't in a bad spot for 40k material, you're more likely to get your work seen than posting in a sub reddit and seeing it lost to the ages.


Thanks very much, I think the overall effect is better than my attempts at a space-effect.


So, another quick update. Have had a couple of packages arrive today, namely a couple of the old OOP (I think) Thousand Sons Dreadnoughts, as well as my first ever Daemon Prince! I managed to get a good deal for the Dreads on eBay. I'm not much of a fan of the fleshy/mutated Helbrute look, and a standard Dread is more in fitting with the Thousand Sons.

I'll be honest, it's a good kit. They come with Twin-Las and Chainfists which were the loadout I had in mind, but I've decided to magnetise them for futureproofing.



He's just held together with GS at the moment before I work on the final pose. The main issue I have with these is that they're actually pretty small. I suppose this is a good example of scale-creep but I'm rather surprised at how diddy they appear. Nonetheless I'm very happy with them indeed.


Now onto the Daemon Prince...

I'll be honest I much preferred the old metal Daemon Prince, but it sees pretty hard to get and I already had a conversion idea for mine, based off this pretty awesome kitbash I found online:



From what I can gather it's the standard kit with a Morghast head and armour, the wings I'm not sure but I want to say either Tyranid Shrike or Chaos Possessed. It took me a good while to source the Morghast parts but finally managed to find a guy in France to ship them over. Now that I had those parts I splurged out on the Daemon Prince to get this off the ground.

In my opinion the Daemon Prince is a pretty crappy kit. It's one of the defining Chaos units in both AoS and 40k, yet the kit is just...dull and outdated. You're really stuck on the single pose and the overall customisation is so limited. As a testament to it's lack of updates the instructions don't even have part numbers and it includes rules for 40k 7th Edition!

So first thing I did was to convert his right hand weapon. I took the Daemonic Axe and replaced the head with a spare staff from the LoC. I may replace that odd spike at the other end but for now it seems to be ok.



I then chose to convert his left arm from his "alas, poor Yorrick" pose on the box to a more downward stroke, but this required considerable filing and shaving of the shoulder muscles, as you're really stuck in that pose otherwise. The arm was pinned on and the remaining gaps filled in with green stuff.

At this point I thought that the original model looked a bit too hunched, and bringing his head further upright would help his overall presence. This was a big gamble as my green stuff skills are worse than my photography skills (if that's even possible). I shaved away the original neck and the surrounding musculature, and added a pin extending from the top of the torso. I then built the pin up with a considerable amount of grene stuff, at which point I positioned the head to get the angle right. Tomorrow once it's all set I hope to add another thin layer to sculpt into basic musculature,etc.

While this is a rather rudimentary process due to my reluctance to use green stuff in large amounts I'm pretty happy with it so far:



The green stuff around his shoulder will be covered by the pretty large pauldrons included in the kit, and I'll add detail to the neck as described earlier, but overall I'm very happy with the result. My next decision is with the head itself: I'm wondering if it'd add to his unique-ness if I were to omit the skull inside the helm, and replace it with a rough green stuff head. It would have no detail as it'd be painted with Black 2.0, the idea being that it's some sort of void where his head should be, surrounded by his crown/helm/etc. I'm a bit sceptical but would be interested in hearing your ideas.


Thanks for reading this quick update, next one will likely be more Lords of Change, Dreads and Daemons, although I hope to move back towards Thousand Sons in the near future.

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The flamers creeping out of the LoCs base is inspired! The bright colours feel very Tzentchian all round and the black 2.0 looks pretty cool if you ask me. So no surprise that I think the hollow man head you’ve described for the DP would be worth a try. Is it something that you can mock up first without damaging the original head?

@tzurk, I though i was down with the kids starting a blog on the internet, and now you tell me it’s old fashioned! Pfft! . I have now belatedly joined insta, but haven’t done anything with it. You lot are just such a friendly bunch!

@valkyrie, tzurk and TH are right, it takes a while to get going on here but the P&M blog section is populated by a good bunch on the whole.

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Hey mate, nice update. I have also lamented the woeful DP kit - especially as a lot of players like to run them in 3s! The Morghast idea is tried and true badassery and interested to see your take on it. The staff is suitably tzeentchy (is he flipping us off??) and the other arm looks like its ready to punch your head off for calling him a bookworm.

I share a distrust in my own GS abilities but the repose looks like a success to me. Black 2.0 on the head sounds interesting; kind of gives me voidwalker vibes from World of Warcraft.

Dreadnoughts are also cool - I didn't know these 1k sons ones existed but they look like a neat kit. I am a huge fan of old box dreads and am excited to see how they turn out!

@gobert, I did too! Instant reactions across the world! Pictures right there on the page! Quotes and links and everything. maybe I am wrong/cynical about this but it does feels to me like forums are starting to slow down all over in favour of places with profiles/followers/monetised product placement

There are a few australian wargaming websites I used to visit years ago that are super uncomfortable to visit now due to lack of activity - it's like a spooky internet ghost town. Where did all the people go...

Anyway! Good stuff Valk, keep it up

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gobert wrote:The flamers creeping out of the LoCs base is inspired! The bright colours feel very Tzentchian all round and the black 2.0 looks pretty cool if you ask me. So no surprise that I think the hollow man head you’ve described for the DP would be worth a try. Is it something that you can mock up first without damaging the original head?

@tzurk, I though i was down with the kids starting a blog on the internet, and now you tell me it’s old fashioned! Pfft! . I have now belatedly joined insta, but haven’t done anything with it. You lot are just such a friendly bunch!

@valkyrie, tzurk and TH are right, it takes a while to get going on here but the P&M blog section is populated by a good bunch on the whole.


Thanks for the positive feedback. I think the Black 2.0 looks better in photos rather than in reality, and while I'm a bit disappointed as a result I think it's a useful thing to have, and it was only £10 anyway.

The Daemon Prince head is in two parts; the crown which dominates the whole head, and the skull which fits nicely inside. The skull is a bit equine-like so that's why I'm thinking it may be worth finding something else. As it's not glued yet there's no issue with creating a mockup, I think something simple like a mannequin head would have the best result.


tzurk wrote:Hey mate, nice update. I have also lamented the woeful DP kit - especially as a lot of players like to run them in 3s! The Morghast idea is tried and true badassery and interested to see your take on it. The staff is suitably tzeentchy (is he flipping us off??) and the other arm looks like its ready to punch your head off for calling him a bookworm.

I share a distrust in my own GS abilities but the repose looks like a success to me. Black 2.0 on the head sounds interesting; kind of gives me voidwalker vibes from World of Warcraft.

Dreadnoughts are also cool - I didn't know these 1k sons ones existed but they look like a neat kit. I am a huge fan of old box dreads and am excited to see how they turn out!

@gobert, I did too! Instant reactions across the world! Pictures right there on the page! Quotes and links and everything. maybe I am wrong/cynical about this but it does feels to me like forums are starting to slow down all over in favour of places with profiles/followers/monetised product placement

There are a few australian wargaming websites I used to visit years ago that are super uncomfortable to visit now due to lack of activity - it's like a spooky internet ghost town. Where did all the people go...

Anyway! Good stuff Valk, keep it up


Thanks again for the sentiments

The 1k Dreadnought is an older FW kit, I'm pretty sure it's OOP so it's quite difficult to get hold of one, let alone 2. I agree in that there's a good bit of potential with the old box-naughts. While the Contemptor is better in terms of looks, I don't get that sense of nostalgia with it that I got with my first box-naught.

I've admitted that I'm rather a social media hermit, despite being only in my 20's. Perhaps it's time to branch out a bit, try Instagram? I would really have no idea where to begin though in getting the ball rolling, best to do some research first.




Anyway, another quick update after a very lazy yet productive weekend. I guess lockdown does have a perk or two...


Was rummaging through the various sprues and parts I've collected for this project and came across the third head for my Lord of Change. If you want to build the standard LoC you have a single neck with a part to mount it in the centre of the chest; for Fateweaver, each neck makes up part of this mount, so I'm left with a head and no use for it...until now.






I was very dubious about converting this model so far into the painting. I asked around on Facebook and got numerous replies of "don't risk ruining it, try it on your next one". Almost decided against it until I thought "When am I likely to buy another £70 Lord of Change? Sod it, let's go for it!".

The head is mounted on using a crossbeam made from spare sprue inserted into the neck hollow. This gives me space to pin it to the chest. The neck itself has had to be crudely shaved to get the rough shape, and the head itself was rotated to the right to avoid too much similarity with the left-most head. There were substantial gaps between the new neck and chest which were filled with Green Stuff, before Vallejo Plastic Putty was applied to get a smoother look. It's not perfect, and I doubt I'd ever get it absolutely perfect, but I think it's worked very well.

Thanks for reading this quick update, next plan is to get the base colours on the Dreadnoughts and a mockup Daemon Prince head to replace the skull.

   
 
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