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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/22 19:14:08
Subject: Tau Remora what does the 15-30" Movement mean?
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Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin
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Do they have to deal have the same restrictions on a single 90^ turn before they move? Far as I can tell from the new Forge World book, they must move 15" up to 30", but no restrictions on pivoting?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/22 19:21:04
Subject: Tau Remora what does the 15-30" Movement mean?
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Lord of the Fleet
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If they don't have the 90-degree rule mentioned anywhere then they don't move like that. The 15"-30" means they have a minimum movement of 15".
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/11/22 22:27:17
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/22 20:24:59
Subject: Tau Remora what does the 15-30" Movement mean?
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Norn Queen
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Sazzlefrats wrote:Do they have to deal have the same restrictions on a single 90^ turn before they move? Far as I can tell from the new Forge World book, they must move 15" up to 30", but no restrictions on pivoting?
As written, they don't have to pivot like other aircraft (as they lack the Supersonic rule), but they still have to meet their minimum move or will crash like any other aircraft. So, they still need to make their 15" minimum move, but since they can move freely like any other model with FLY, as long as they end up 15" from where they started, they will be fine. Whether this is a mistake that will be fixed with errata (since the book is riddled with errors), or is intended since they are hover drones and not fixed wing aircraft, remains to be seen.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2020/11/22 20:25:56
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/22 21:32:50
Subject: Tau Remora what does the 15-30" Movement mean?
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
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If they can freely pivot, surely they dont need to finish 15" from where they started?
You could move the model 8", pivot 180 and then move 8" back to your start position.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/22 21:37:50
Subject: Tau Remora what does the 15-30" Movement mean?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Stux wrote:If they can freely pivot, surely they dont need to finish 15" from where they started?
You could move the model 8", pivot 180 and then move 8" back to your start position.
GW really hasn't like those shenanigans even in older editions.They want to see displacement from the original position (measured horizontally plus, if necessary, vertically)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/22 22:38:14
Subject: Tau Remora what does the 15-30" Movement mean?
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
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They should probably put that in a rule then.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/22 22:44:48
Subject: Tau Remora what does the 15-30" Movement mean?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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From the core rules:
“The distance a model moves is measured using the part of the model’s base (or hull) that moves furthest along its path (including parts that rotate or pivot)”
Not sure if it would be allowed to move 8” forward and 8” back and claim to move 16”.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/23 00:51:50
Subject: Re:Tau Remora what does the 15-30" Movement mean?
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Confessor Of Sins
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The core rules are very clear on Minimum Move:
Rules Terms Glossary wrote:MINIMUM MOVE: If a model has a Move characteristic that includes two values with an intervening dash, the lower number is its minimum Move characteristic and the higher is its maximum Move characteristic. A maximum Move characteristic functions the same as a normal Move characteristic. If a model has a minimum Move characteristic, in its controller's Movement phase that model must move at least that distance. If it cannot, and the Strategic Reserves rules are not being used, that model is destroyed.
Additionally, the Remora is an Aircraft, so the additional Aircraft rules regarding Minimum Move apply.
Aircraft models typically have a Move characteristic consisting of two values. The first is the model’s minimum Move characteristic – in its Movement phase, all parts of the model’s base must end the move at least that far from where they started. The second is its maximum Move characteristic – no part of the model’s base can be moved further than this. If such a model’s Move characteristic is modified, its minimum and maximum Move characteristics are both modified.
If an Aircraft model cannot make its minimum move, or its minimum move would result in any part of that model (including its base) crossing the edge of the battlefield, then unless you are using the Strategic Reserves rule, that model is removed from the battlefield and counted as destroyed (if the Aircraft is a Transport, then any models currently embarked within are likewise counted as destroyed). The Strategic Reserves rule is described in the Warhammer 40,000 Core Book.
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This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2020/11/23 00:57:41
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/23 08:41:20
Subject: Tau Remora what does the 15-30" Movement mean?
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
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Given its an aircraft, I stand corrected that it must be displaced 15".
Are there any models currently with a minimum move that are not aircraft?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/23 21:21:36
Subject: Tau Remora what does the 15-30" Movement mean?
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Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin
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I'm also wondering, if in addition to Remoras not having the supersonic limitation, if they were also supposed to keyworded as vehicles?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/23 21:45:25
Subject: Re:Tau Remora what does the 15-30" Movement mean?
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Confessor Of Sins
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The unit is the DX-6 Remora Stealth Drones. Unsurprisingly, it has the Drone keyword and not the Vehicle keyword.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/11/23 21:45:40
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/11/24 09:40:48
Subject: Re:Tau Remora what does the 15-30" Movement mean?
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Edit, i was wrong.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2020/11/24 09:43:30
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