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So this is kinda a self-shaming thread, but is of course meant to be a laugh and not super serial. And as the title suggests, I want to hear about stuff in movies it took you far too long to notice and properly appreciate.

My first one to kick you off?

Robocop, and his catch phrase - dead or alive, you’re coming with me.

Now this is probably because I saw it when I really shouldn’t have for such a violent film. Suffice to say it was well over a decade later that I was mature enough to properly appreciate its satirical brilliance. But that line skimmed right over my head for even longer.]

Specifically, it’s when we first see him glitching, at the Gas Station with Emile. Emile is the first villain (possibly character) to recognise Robo as Alex Murphy. We killed you....we killed you man....

And by that point, Robocop’s status is in question. Is he dead, or is he alive? The only flesh we canonically see is his face, seemingly stretched across a frame. Just.....so good! Dead or alive is referring to Alex as much as it is Emile.

Superb stuff, absolutely superb.

I never noticed as a kid how much time Snow White and Sleeping Beauty spend on the Prince. I'd kind of mentally lumped them in with Cinderella where he's just kind of there at the end, though even in that one the time they spend at the ball was more meaningful than I recalled.

Keep in mind I was only 12 when Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade came out.
The exchange between Indy and Henry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5qYzici8Ww
Indy: How did you know she was a Nazi?
Henry: She talks in her sleep.
Indy: *stares*
Henry: *smiles*

That completely went over my head at 12 years old. I just thought he meant he could overhear her from the next room or something. Yeah, it was a few years later when the full import of that line dawned on me.

Someone recently pointed out to me that Gandalf stores his pipe in his staff in Fellowship.

I was legitimately upset that I'd never noticed.

Whaaaaaaa!??

Wow. That is actually true:

https://www.wetanz.com/shop/prop-replicas/pipe-staff-of-gandalf-the-grey

I never would have noticed Egon gesturing prices to Venkmen at the Sedgwick hotel if it hadn’t been pointed out to me.

Voss wrote:
Wow. That is actually true:

https://www.wetanz.com/shop/prop-replicas/pipe-staff-of-gandalf-the-grey

Burger me! It is true and all!

Avengers:

Stark guides the nuke through the portal into space. His suit loses power and shuts down.

Then, somehow, in space, he loses _all_ the forward momentum from his own thrusters and the nuke's engine, the momentum not only stops, but reverses itself, and he 'falls' back through the portal.

Earth’s gravity was also passing through the the portal. Stargate physics.

So the tesseract needs a little sticker that says “Caution; do not use in proximity to a black hole or other gravimetric singularities.”?

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
Keep in mind I was only 12 when Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade came out.
The exchange between Indy and Henry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5qYzici8Ww
Indy: How did you know she was a Nazi?
Henry: She talks in her sleep.
Indy: *stares*
Henry: *smiles*

That completely went over my head at 12 years old. I just thought he meant he could overhear her from the next room or something. Yeah, it was a few years later when the full import of that line dawned on me.

I'm as human as the next man

Dad, I was the next man.

John Carpenter's "The thing".

When the Norwegians are flying towards and around outpost 31 (US camp).
When they land, and the one guy gets out, shooting at the dog, screaming in Norwegian at the guy patting the dog.

After working with some Norwegians, and learning a bit of the language years later. He is shouting "It's not a dog, it's a 'thing' - KILL it, KILL it now."

But the movie would have ended pdq at that point.

In 2001, when Bowman launches himself from the pod into the discovery, his pod should have also shot away from the discovery due to newtonian physics.

Also, a few minutes later, his bare wrist is visible for a few seconds as his suit glove is not connected to his suit arm.

Another one from Robocop. After Kinney is obliterated in the board room, Bob Morton gets to make his presentation to the Old Man, Morton and Johnson have this exchange in the elevator.

Johnson: Too bad about Kinney. (smiles)
Morton: That's life in the big city.

Without coming right out and saying it, this exchange lets us know that ED-209 was deliberately sabotaged, and that these guys are just as bad as Dick Jones.

 Matt Swain wrote:
In 2001, when Bowman launches himself from the pod into the discovery, his pod should have also shot away from the discovery due to newtonian physics.

Not necessarily, it depends on their comparable mass.

 JoshInJapan wrote:
Another one from Robocop. After Kinney is obliterated in the board room, Bob Morton gets to make his presentation to the Old Man, Morton and Johnson have this exchange in the elevator.

Johnson: Too bad about Kinney. (smiles)
Morton: That's life in the big city.

Without coming right out and saying it, this exchange lets us know that ED-209 was deliberately sabotaged, and that these guys are just as bad as Dick Jones.

I’ll admit, I always had that pegged as “sucks to be him, but I’m making money” 80’s yuppie snark.

But, now you cast in that light, you probably do have a point!

I think there’s another line that also gives it away because I remember knowing they sabotaged ED-209 but I don’t think I picked it up from that exchange.

There's a line that Jones says later in the movie: "I had a guaranteed military sale with ED 209 - renovation program, spare parts for twenty-five years... Who cares if it worked or not?"

Which, one, is Paul Verhoven slapping GM with a fish really hard, but from that I was under the impression that ED was basically busted right from the get-go. A Bradley on legs.

Both still stand, to be honest.

Jones not caring whether it worked doesn’t mean it wasn’t purposefully sabotaged, or needed to be sabotaged in the first place.

Both parties there were solely concerned with their own standing and pedigree, measured by profits.

This one dawned on me at some unfathomable hour of the morning.

Jurassic Park the very first film. When all the staff leave to go home for the weekend. No one stays behind to look after the recently born raptor babies! Nor any other livestock or eggs.


Now granted the head keeper has remained, but all the other staff are clearly tech support staff and I'd wager that there's more than one mans work in livestock care that must go on at the park since they were clearly still active in breeding new stock that very morning.

Science staff going home I get; along with all the other general clean and building crew and the rest. However livestock requires care all the time and I'd wager way more work than one jaded hunter can keep up with

Definitely. Individual staff members get days off, but there would be a constant presence full time. Most big ranches have at least some of their hands living on site.

I'd expect most zoos and animal parks to at least have a bunkhouse for staff when there are births/hatching going on.

Speaking from experience, sometimes things go wrong. Either complications with the birth, or the mother not being particularly interested (though admittedly, for many reptiles, that's normal), or some sickness or health problem.

Everyone taking off for a weekend just doesn't work.

I suspect that may be deliberate, to show the owner has the knowledge to bring them back, but bugger all idea about how to run the park?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I suspect that may be deliberate, to show the owner has the knowledge to bring them back, but bugger all idea about how to run the park?

Naw I think it was more to cut the cast down and to then focus on the survival story without having to kill off too many side actors. Not forgetting this was still the early CGI days and they were also using a lot of animatronics for the close up scenes. So chances are they just couldn't budget for a mass-staff-massacre or something. Though they could have done an off-camera "screams down the phone" as the raptors break into the staff break/bunk room (strangely put right next to the raptor enclosure)

Or it didn't occur to them because they based their research on a theme park rather than a wildlife park. Theme parks without visitors could certainly downsize to basically no staff at all save perhaps a guy to sit in a booth and sip coffee all night long whilst on security duty.

Or it was done because they were focusing on the whole "nature finds a way" angle and wanted to show how without humans the dinosaurs kept living and functioning. Which works for the mature adults in the park itself somewhat, it just fails for the young we see; for the fact that there must be younger stock not yet with the adult groups and also for the fact that even with just adults we already saw one very sick Triceratops which looks like it was either heading for euthanising in the field or somehow being transported back to a clinic site for treatment (which in itself would be a mammoth task which might suggest they'd have far more mobile medical facilities on hand for the larger creatures where transport is likely near impossible when they are in a fragile condition).

It’s been a while since I read the book, but I’m fairly sure there’s a lot more staff on the island (most of whom end up as Dino-treats). I seem to recall Muldoon leading a hunting party that tranquillises the T-Rex (using rocket propelled tranquilliser darts of all things!), so I think this is an affectation of the film to focus on the main cast and lean into the standard stalker/horror movie tropes.

It was maybe my fourth rewatch of The Dark Knight when I realized the Chinese money launderer was on top of the pile of money Joker lit on fire.

In "Battle beyond the stars" out of all the people who came to fight Zador the only one whose ship had an escape pod was the valkyrie who sought a beautiful death in battle.

In 2010, when floydd angrily shouts "I didn't know!" regarding HAL being told to lie about the mission, this seems to contrdict the end of 2001 where floyd appeares in a redorded message after HALs deactivation and tells the crew (Bowman) that only HAL had known the truth about the mission.

Now, if i had to reconcile this, maybe floyd was ok with not telling the flight crew the whole story, but never advocated telling HAL to lie about it, maybe they just assumed he'd never be asked about that so he didn't think that HAL would be ordered to lie, which of course fethed him up tragically.

All the years han and chewie were together the only time han asked to try chewie's bowcaster was in the force awakens?

 LunarSol wrote:
I never noticed as a kid how much time Snow White and Sleeping Beauty spend on the Prince. I'd kind of mentally lumped them in with Cinderella where he's just kind of there at the end, though even in that one the time they spend at the ball was more meaningful than I recalled.

Speaking of Cinderella....

If the glass slipper was a perfect fit for her foot, why did it fall off in the first place?

 chromedog wrote:
John Carpenter's "The thing".

When the Norwegians are flying towards and around outpost 31 (US camp).
When they land, and the one guy gets out, shooting at the dog, screaming in Norwegian at the guy patting the dog.

After working with some Norwegians, and learning a bit of the language years later. He is shouting "It's not a dog, it's a 'thing' - KILL it, KILL it now."

But the movie would have ended pdq at that point.

Now I wonder how they handled that bit for Norwegian audiences?