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I enjoyed alot of the first one - faded badly at the end but mostly good fun
Hightlights so far me - Margot Robbie and a Sharkman. Looks like more humour too - nice
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Untill Wonder Woman 2 the first SS was the weakest DC movie IMO so hopefully this one will be a pleasant surprise. I love Harlequin/Margot so this one is a must see.
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With Gunn at the help, I'd expect this one to get a little closer to a GotG feel - though, equally, Gunn was told he could kill off anyone he wanted to.
Given Peacemaker (John Cena's character) is getting his own series, that might indicate he survives, but equally it could be a prequel.
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Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote: You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...
I'm one of the (seemingly few) people who didn't think the first Suicide Squad film was terrible. Hard to tell from the trailer but this film doesn't seem any worse. I'll probably watch it.
El Torro wrote: I'm one of the (seemingly few) people who didn't think the first Suicide Squad film was terrible. Hard to tell from the trailer but this film doesn't seem any worse. I'll probably watch it.
The first one wasn't a great movie, but by the standards of DC films, it was a good one.
This one... I'm not sure if its just that Gunn is much more shallow of a director than I thought, but the trailer makes it look more like a Guardians of the Galaxy spinoff than a DC movie.
The pacing for the one liners, giant monster, 'anatomical' humor, the general irreverence and indifference to their situation, etc.
Well, except the obsessive DC urge to mess with the color saturation. Stop it, already.
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Shadow Walker wrote: Untill Wonder Woman 2 the first SS was the weakest DC movie IMO so hopefully this one will be a pleasant surprise. I love Harlequin/Margot so this one is a must see.
I'm going to have to disagree. Birds of Prey was the weakest DC movie.
Shadow Walker wrote: Untill Wonder Woman 2 the first SS was the weakest DC movie IMO so hopefully this one will be a pleasant surprise. I love Harlequin/Margot so this one is a must see.
I'm going to have to disagree. Birds of Prey was the weakest DC movie.
Its all subjective But have to agree that Margot is wonderful in the role of Harley - not seen WW2 yet but have enjoyed quite a few of the more recent DC films - Birds of Prey, Justice League (not seen the rework) and Wonder Woman 1 was awesome.
For me The Superman films have been a big let down, Bats vs Sups was terrible but only because of the plot/Lex Luthor - everything else was enjoyable.
I was also underwhelmed by Guardians films - not bad but for me some the weakest Marvel films - but better than Cap A1
However I loved the Queen music themed Suicide Squad Trailer and the film was not as good....still at least the Director seems to have stayed till the end.
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"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
Hmmmmm, still feeling rather wary/ambivalent about this movie. Seeing that STARRO is somehow involved doesn't get my hopes up, because SS is best when it isn't involved in saving the world but doing Waller's dirty work or cleaning up her or the government's messes. STARRO is a JL level threat, so I don't like how they didn't try to go for a smaller scale problem for them to solve.
Grimskul wrote: Hmmmmm, still feeling rather wary/ambivalent about this movie. Seeing that STARRO is somehow involved doesn't get my hopes up, because SS is best when it isn't involved in saving the world but doing Waller's dirty work or cleaning up her or the government's messes. STARRO is a JL level threat, so I don't like how they didn't try to go for a smaller scale problem for them to solve.
Well, maybe Captain Carrot and the Amazing Zoo Crew can show up and save the day from the evil starfish.
So this is a direct sequel to SS 1, but does it come after Birds of Prey? (which was a big hit in my family, we all liked it and enjoyed it for popcorn)
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Omega Marines (vanilla Space Marine): W-1, L-6, T-2
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My understanding is that it isn't SS2 at all and an urgent reboot of Suicide Squad after the first one didn't really impress. So outside of the lovely Margot as Harley, there's zero continuity between the films and quite possibly nothing connecting it to other DC films.
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Despite the annoying "filthy gangster" theme they have for these movies, Suicide Squad and Birds of Prey were fairly enjoyable movies. This trailer is the most promising one so far, so if the pictures are open again its a date.
Only small niggle at this time is the lazy title. I say push the boat out and call it "Suicide Squad 2: The Wrath of Doctor Who".
Azreal13 wrote: My understanding is that it isn't SS2 at all and an urgent reboot of Suicide Squad after the first one didn't really impress. So outside of the lovely Margot as Harley, there's zero continuity between the films and quite possibly nothing connecting it to other DC films.
I thought the actors who were Rick Flagg and Amanda Waller stayed the same, as did Captain Boomerang...so there is that continuity
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Get of Freki (Space Wolves): W-3, L-1, T-1
Hive Fleet Portentosa (Nids/Stealers): W-6, L-4, T-0
Omega Marines (vanilla Space Marine): W-1, L-6, T-2
Waagh Magshak (Orks): W-4, L-0, T-1
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Azreal13 wrote: My understanding is that it isn't SS2 at all and an urgent reboot of Suicide Squad after the first one didn't really impress. So outside of the lovely Margot as Harley, there's zero continuity between the films and quite possibly nothing connecting it to other DC films.
I thought the actors who were Rick Flagg and Amanda Waller stayed the same, as did Captain Boomerang...so there is that continuity
It's superficial at best.
The actors that did a real good job have stuck around to keep doing a good job. But this movie is supposed to have nothing to do with the other movies apparently. WB is just making DC movies at this point. There isn't much rhyme or reason to it besides what they think might be profitable.
These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
I have the feeling that Starro is almost more of a backdrop. Like, the squad might not be dealing with Starro directly, but more perhaps with various mind controlled people. - The Thinker definitely seems to be related to Starro in some way from the posters. So maybe one is mind controlling the other, or some sort.
So, like, you follow the Suicide Squad doing their mission, then maybe halfway through, Hawkman from Black Adam gets cratered from fighting Starro, stands up and flies back into that action.
Azreal13 wrote: My understanding is that it isn't SS2 at all and an urgent reboot of Suicide Squad after the first one didn't really impress. So outside of the lovely Margot as Harley, there's zero continuity between the films and quite possibly nothing connecting it to other DC films.
I thought the actors who were Rick Flagg and Amanda Waller stayed the same, as did Captain Boomerang...so there is that continuity
It's superficial at best.
The actors that did a real good job have stuck around to keep doing a good job. But this movie is supposed to have nothing to do with the other movies apparently. WB is just making DC movies at this point. There isn't much rhyme or reason to it besides what they think might be profitable.
They want to have their cake and eat it too. The first film did have its fans...and they want those fans to view it as a sequel. It also had many detractors...and they want them to see this as a new thing from a different director.
Think they pulled it off with the trailer at least. It's obviously more comedic than the first and very 'James Gunn', while the '...you die' line is a blatant wink at the other movie.
well, at the very least she appears to be wearing the actual harley quinn outfit. one of my big recurring pet peeves of the whole superhero movie genre is 'we want to capitalize on your nostalgia for superheroes, but we think of ourselves as just way too cool to put any of those dumb doofy superhero COSTUMES in our movie.
Like if youre gonna do a superhero movie, fething commit to the doofy outfit, coward. X-men is the ultimate offender here obviously but the fact that they made a Suicide Squad movie and dressed her like the gal who went to a christian girls boarding school her whole life and then got sent off to college and is overcompensating super hard always kinda annoyed me.
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Like if youre gonna do a superhero movie, fething commit to the doofy outfit, coward. X-men is the ultimate offender here obviously but the fact that they made a Suicide Squad movie and dressed her like the gal who went to a christian girls boarding school her whole life and then got sent off to college and is overcompensating super hard always kinda annoyed me.
What?
In SS she wore an outfit my daughter had on her wall for years.
In BoP she's worn those outfits as well.
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Technically Luke Cage wore his old comic outfit for all of a minute before ditching it and sticking with street clothes. I do love that their movies got Mysterio’s fish bowl and Black Manta’s big disc head in them. Even Aquaman manages to make his comic suit look good.
Lance845 wrote: The mcu has pretty much done all but the most offensive super hero costumes (hawkeye).
Yes and I respect that. mostly they get rid of hats, which is fine, you wanna showcase your actors' expressions in a movie, so unless the hat is extremely important to the character it generally makes sense to either remove it or tone it down, wheras in a comic book a distinctive hat can help a character be differentiable. which is exactly what they've done with harlie in the new movie - take the classic costume, remove the hat.
I'm very thankful that the 'we want to do superhero movies but we're too cool to do the silly outfits' died with the X-men flicks. Rami's spider man flicks just owned it and from then on it was smooth sailing.
Maybe the fact that green goblin was scarier without the mask on was what saved the classic silly costumes.
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"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"
Grimskul wrote: Hmmmmm, still feeling rather wary/ambivalent about this movie. Seeing that STARRO is somehow involved doesn't get my hopes up, because SS is best when it isn't involved in saving the world but doing Waller's dirty work or cleaning up her or the government's messes. STARRO is a JL level threat, so I don't like how they didn't try to go for a smaller scale problem for them to solve.
With Gunn at the helm there's no way this is going to be a gritty spy drama with supervillains taking on the Russian mafia or whatever.
Starro is there because a giant starfish that mind controls people is funny and kinda scary but in a PG sort of way.
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote: You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...
the_scotsman wrote: mostly they get rid of hats, which is fine, you wanna showcase your actors' expressions in a movie, so unless the hat is extremely important to the character it generally makes sense to either remove it or tone it down, wheras in a comic book a distinctive hat can help a character be differentiable. which is exactly what they've done with harlie in the new movie - take the classic costume, remove the hat.
What the MCU does with helmets/masks/hats is worse though. Hats/masks/helmets that are there until the character has to speak, and suddenly they morph away, and then come back once they're done speaking.
The two best (worst?) examples are the final fight in Black Panther, where they're fighting and fighting and every now and again stop to talk, and their masks vanish. The second is in Engame, when Spidey shows up and inexplicably removes his mask in case, what, we forgot who was under there?
Iron Man struck a balance, allowing for facial acting "within" the helmet, but even they abandoned that eventually for helmets that just vanish during dialogue.
Dysartes wrote: Anyone else curious about the spear Harley seems to be rocking in places in the trailers?
Probably Javelin's javelin, likely taken after his immediate but inevitable demise.
Kid_Kyoto wrote: Starro is there because a giant starfish that mind controls people is funny and kinda scary but in a PG sort of way.
But the movie's rated R?
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