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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos





life.

Hi guys,

Lord Marcus from two idiots printing service here.

We wanted to solicit the community for ideas and input. Specifically about our website/ webstore
We currently have a large variety of miniature lines and terrain available. We would like to offer even more deals than our usual bulk buy drop-downs.

I was specifically thinking army deals or potentially One-Stop terrain bundles. What price point, does the community think that an army deal or a terrain bundle should be to where it's easy to make the decision to buy?

What other ranges or army deals would you like to see?

Our web store can be found at the link below and we appreciate any input you may give

https://two-idiots-printing-service.myshopify.com/collections/medbury-miniatures

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Wouldn't this be better served in your main thread?



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life.

potentially, sure. But the only people who tend to comment are BobtheInquisitor and Don Qui Hotep.

I'm trying to get more people involved in the discussion

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And I just commented.


   
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Personal opinion: price point is irrelevant until I can see pics of actual prints.
   
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life.

stroller wrote:
Personal opinion: price point is irrelevant until I can see pics of actual prints.


Peculiar companions spanish knights



spanish infantry and a mounted character



Peculiar companions mongol elf heavy infantry (Mid clean up and then painted)





Peculiar companions Benin orc cavalry




Are you suggesting we update our product pages with printed photos? The renders show the details much better and we have over 300 listings on the webstore (and growing.) Not that I am against this (in fact I'm doing so currently) it just takes a large amount of time.




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A few thoughts:


1) You know when you buy a model from GW it can come in one of two boxes. The colourful boxes you see on the shelf which are unique to each model type; and the generic white box that is the same no matter what model is inside.

The colourful box you get on the highstreet shelf, it shows you the models painted, it shows you the contents and its colourful and attractive and catches your eye. It's there to advertise, tempt and inform all in one go.

The white box doesn't do any of that, it simply contains the model for shipping. It works because you never see the box until after you've bought the model (and its been shipped to you); what you see is the colourful models and information on the GW website which broadly mirrors the same content on the box in the shop - though the website also shows a 360 view and more angles and a few close ups and such.


Right now your website feels a bit like the whitebox. It could do with a little more "life" to the design and theme and presentation of the models themselves. Right now you're informing me of what I'm buying, but you're not tempting nor enticing nor advertising nor drawing me in to buy them.



2) Renders are nice to show, by all means do show them. However remember that renders do NOT show everything and have some big limitations

a) They lack any sense of scale. You cannot tell from a render if the model is 1cm tall 10cm or 100cm.

b) They lack any sense of real world detail retention. A render to print can lose some fine details; or some really fine detail can be near impossible to see without a magnifying glass.

c) They don't show the quality of the actual printing/casting that your firm achieves. The customer has no idea what kind of quality to expect. You could deliver top grade or bottom grade and they've no way of telling.

d) They lack paint. Yep paint makes a difference as it brings a model to life. Now painting can present its own challenges - you can go for the Infinity style with a top grade paint job or you can go for the GW style which is more a neat battle ready style.
Personally I think GW has it right because they produce a style which is detailed and clean and skilled, but which is more easily emulated by the customer. Infinity wows you with their detail and skill in paintwork, but its a much harder job to emulate for the customer.

In an ideal world you can show both - the product page is the GW style - a neat clean good quality tabletop; the you've a gallery which shows off top grade paintwork.





And yes photos cost as does a good paintjob. That said they have FAR more chance of actually marketing and selling your product. Now you can sometimes get away with just showing renders if you're in a niche or if you manage to get a live customer gallery going and social media presence to the point where your customers are providing more and more media material for you. However all those things cost - enticing customers might even mean sending free models to people with websites of their own to show off your work on; it might mean having someone on your team dedicated to social media management and ensuring that your community relations are top grade and building up a community around your product.


There is no cheap nor easy way to it and I would argue that some of your photos above are not marketing quality. The last with the green resin is improperly lit to show off the details; the one above is a big improvement, but the paint job isn't quite good enough whilst the others are good for social media marketing but not product sales marketing - they are snapshots of a hobby bench.




ps if you're serious I'd also remove your "Huge Brutal stomping mech" from your store. It's just waiting for a copyright claim from GW.

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For what it's worth I think your running into a different problem with your deals your trying to sell me armies where instead I'd rather buy units. I'd rather get multiples of 10 or 5 with a built in discount and pick the troops I want then be locked into regiments I don't want. This pretty much matches most rank and file fantasy games that I know of. An army discunt bundle might come in at that point. Mostly while I'm definitely intrigued by the 15th century Dwarves I don't want cavaly or giants and I'd rather pick my units up to the discount total than be stuck with models I don't want. GW get away with this in their Start Collecting sets because of the ridiculously inflated prices of some of the components in the sets. Equally this would mean you don't need to give as great a discount. Using Undead for an example the GW Start Collecting skeleton hordes gives £93 of stock at £55 or £7 more than the Mortarch kit. It would be stupid of me not to buy this deal but giving that sort of discount also cannibalises the sale of the individual components which you don't want.

"But me no buts! Our comrades get hurt. Our friends die. Falkenburg is a knight who swore an oath to serve the church and to defend the weak. He'd be the first to tell you to stop puling and start planning. Because what we are doing-at risk to ourselves-is what we have sworn to do. The West relies on us. It is a risk we take with pride. It is an oath we honour. Even when some soft southern burgher mutters about us, we know the reason he sleeps soft and comfortable, why his wife is able to complain about the price of cabbages as her most serious problem and why his children dare to throw dung and yell "Knot" when we pass. It's because we are what we are. For all our faults we stand for law and light.
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What Overread said, so much better than I did.

For ME, the key at present from his comprehensive post is: what am I buying? No idea. The render looks nice, but what does the finished print look like? What do I GET? It needs to be professionally taken - at the very least have a look at the advice GW gives for taking pics to send in.

I recognise this is time consuming, but looking at a render: it's just a computer image of, effectively, work in progress.
   
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A few further points:

1) You mention that models come attached to their supports from the 3D printing, which as someone who owns a 3D printer, instantly sends me a warning flag of concern.

a) Any customer who does not have a 3D printer (or has experience of them) will not know what supports look like at all. Their experience will be GW style models on a sprue type packaging and that's what they'll expect and be used too. A forest of supports with some really thin ones and some thick and all over the place, is not what they will be used too nor expecting.

b) As a 3D printer owner I'm wondering why your models are being cured and sold with the supports on. Supports should be peeling off and clipped off for the most part at the post wash pre cure phase of production. Yes the model will still likely arrive with some small supports bits on them, but it should be a small clean up, rather than the full cured on support tree.


Now it might be that most of your supports do peel off and that the ones left at thicker anchors to feet and such; and that the supports are not too dense or hard to remove. It might be my concerns are overblown, however you don't show any examples on your website. Ideally you'd have at least one page dedicated to being a tutorial for guiding your customers through how to prep their purchased models for priming.


Ps I note that the models are those you've bought a licence to sell and thus the supports might not be your own work. I'm aware that other people offer a similar printing service have found that they sometimes also have to resupport works if the supports are not ideal since not every stl seller sells ideal supports and that some only sell stls and not even any presupports.
That said if you do have to work on improving the supports since its going to improve the quality of your product it will help out greatly for you in the long run.


2) Also don't take my "white box" comment above to relate only to the media for models, its the whole site itself that has that feel. It just wants a step up in a few areas to feel more complete. Simple things like having a Facebook link (you have a text reference but no hyperlink nor icon link); through to banners, a bit of design and such.

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I would like to see you offer more bits. This feels like a perfect fit for 3d printing where you could print me a whole tray of alternate heads for much cheaper than I could buy the equivalent in resin.
   
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life.

 Llamahead wrote:
For what it's worth I think your running into a different problem with your deals your trying to sell me armies where instead I'd rather buy units. I'd rather get multiples of 10 or 5 with a built in discount

we have that. In each troops product page is a drop down with multiple options for bulk deals of 10, 20, 50, or 100.

and pick the troops I want then be locked into regiments I don't want. This pretty much matches most rank and file fantasy games that I know of. An army discunt bundle might come in at that point. Mostly while I'm definitely intrigued by the 15th century Dwarves I don't want cavaly or giants and I'd rather pick my units up to the discount total than be stuck with models I don't want. GW get away with this in their Start Collecting sets because of the ridiculously inflated prices of some of the components in the sets. Equally this would mean you don't need to give as great a discount. Using Undead for an example the GW Start Collecting skeleton hordes gives £93 of stock at £55 or £7 more than the Mortarch kit. It would be stupid of me not to buy this deal but giving that sort of discount also cannibalises the sale of the individual components which you don't want.



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stroller wrote:
What Overread said, so much better than I did.

For ME, the key at present from his comprehensive post is: what am I buying? No idea. The render looks nice, but what does the finished print look like? What do I GET? It needs to be professionally taken - at the very least have a look at the advice GW gives for taking pics to send in.

I recognise this is time consuming, but looking at a render: it's just a computer image of, effectively, work in progress.


It's not a work in progress. It's a finished model. We are adding photos of prints as we go. As I said it is a slow process but we understand and are trying.


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 Overread wrote:
A few further points:

1) You mention that models come attached to their supports from the 3D printing, which as someone who owns a 3D printer, instantly sends me a warning flag of concern.

why? We also offer after service support so if someone has questions on 3D printed items then we can answer them.

a) Any customer who does not have a 3D printer (or has experience of them) will not know what supports look like at all. Their experience will be GW style models on a sprue type packaging and that's what they'll expect and be used too. A forest of supports with some really thin ones and some thick and all over the place, is not what they will be used too nor expecting.

the models out of supports like a sprue. That's what I see what you're saying and appreciate the thought. I repeat my comment about the fact that we are happy to answer questions if somebody emails us or messages us.

b) As a 3D printer owner I'm wondering why your models are being cured and sold with the supports on. Supports should be peeling off and clipped off for the most part at the post wash pre cure phase of production. Yes the model will still likely arrive with some small supports bits on them, but it should be a small clean up, rather than the full cured on support tree.

to be honest it's a mixed bag. My business partner who runs the printers is not a hobbyist like I am. We do take Minis off of supports during the time between wash and cure phase but we do not do all of them. I'm actively working on this with my business partner so we minimize issues.

Now it might be that most of your supports do peel off and that the ones left at thicker anchors to feet and such; and that the supports are not too dense or hard to remove. It might be my concerns are overblown, however you don't show any examples on your website. Ideally you'd have at least one page dedicated to being a tutorial for guiding your customers through how to prep their purchased models for priming.

a tutorial is a great idea and I will add one to the website asap. I wouldn't say your comments are overblown however I do think there are some things that are a little bit less concerning than you think. For example supports. We offer reprints if something gets broken during Transit and the supports help that not happen.


Ps I note that the models are those you've bought a licence to sell and thus the supports might not be your own work. I'm aware that other people offer a similar printing service have found that they sometimes also have to resupport works if the supports are not ideal since not every stl seller sells ideal supports and that some only sell stls and not even any presupports.

we only use presupports if there is no other option. We try to support all the models that we print with our own settings.

That said if you do have to work on improving the supports since its going to improve the quality of your product it will help out greatly for you in the long run.

we can do that. We're always trying to improve our process, including supports.


2) Also don't take my "white box" comment above to relate only to the media for models, its the whole site itself that has that feel. It just wants a step up in a few areas to feel more complete. Simple things like having a Facebook link (you have a text reference but no hyperlink nor icon link); through to banners, a bit of design and such.


again something I wanted to work on. The links and things will be relatively easy to figure out. Banners and other such items are a more expensive proposition and would be a more long-term item


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 Gallahad wrote:
I would like to see you offer more bits. This feels like a perfect fit for 3d printing where you could print me a whole tray of alternate heads for much cheaper than I could buy the equivalent in resin.


We can still do that. We take custom commissions via email. If you see something you like hit us up. That being said I'm working on adding more things to the web store. Right now it's mostly Shields cuz those are easy to put into packs.

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The "warning flag" for me is that my experience of supports is they look like this

Spoiler:




Which if then cured onto the model makes them much much harder to remove than the simple the few parts that attach to a sprue.

Again its one of those things where its so much easier for you to show an example or two on your website than it is to describe in words. It's something you don't need to show for every model certainly, but more part of your tutorial

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The supports are an issue. My first order came with most of the supports removed, leaving only a few nubs in need of a knifing. My second order was bigger, and it had all the supports. While I am satisfied with the quality and happy with my order, it is taking me a lot longer to clean the minis than I was expecting, which (along with budget issues and gamer’s ADD) translates into a longer wait time before I put in my next order.

For bit, such as sword arms, the support cleanup is negligible. For a mounted character, quite a bit more time consuming.

   
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I can post some painted Benin soldiers, although my painting is pretty slapdash.
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Fair enough I think I mentioned it before but I hadn't noticed that was a drop down menu. I still feel that regiment sets 20 and command components and mixed deals at the 100 price point so I can get 100 of the range rather than of just 1 troop type at the discount would help more than specific army deals.

"But me no buts! Our comrades get hurt. Our friends die. Falkenburg is a knight who swore an oath to serve the church and to defend the weak. He'd be the first to tell you to stop puling and start planning. Because what we are doing-at risk to ourselves-is what we have sworn to do. The West relies on us. It is a risk we take with pride. It is an oath we honour. Even when some soft southern burgher mutters about us, we know the reason he sleeps soft and comfortable, why his wife is able to complain about the price of cabbages as her most serious problem and why his children dare to throw dung and yell "Knot" when we pass. It's because we are what we are. For all our faults we stand for law and light.
Von Gherens This Rough Magic Lackey, Flint & Freer
Mekagorkalicious -Monkeytroll
2017 Model Count-71
 
   
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life.

 Llamahead wrote:
Fair enough I think I mentioned it before but I hadn't noticed that was a drop down menu. I still feel that regiment sets 20 and command components and mixed deals at the 100 price point so I can get 100 of the range rather than of just 1 troop type at the discount would help more than specific army deals.


We are happy to do that via custom order. Very flexible in that regard, just email us and we can help. And yes I will be adding that to the website as a suggestion if people wanted a mix


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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
The supports are an issue. My first order came with most of the supports removed, leaving only a few nubs in need of a knifing. My second order was bigger, and it had all the supports. While I am satisfied with the quality and happy with my order, it is taking me a lot longer to clean the minis than I was expecting, which (along with budget issues and gamer’s ADD) translates into a longer wait time before I put in my next order.

For bit, such as sword arms, the support cleanup is negligible. For a mounted character, quite a bit more time consuming.


Thanks bob. Again we're trying to work on that, that being said please message me if you need help with anything.

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With respect, a render is not a finished article.

Overread & Bob's pictures give me a much clearer idea of what I'd actually be getting for my money.
   
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life.

stroller wrote:
With respect, a render is not a finished article.

Overread & Bob's pictures give me a much clearer idea of what I'd actually be getting for my money.


I ever said it was a finished, printed item. I said it was a finalized design and you do get to see the detail of the minis

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 lord marcus wrote:
stroller wrote:
With respect, a render is not a finished article.

Overread & Bob's pictures give me a much clearer idea of what I'd actually be getting for my money.


I ever said it was a finished, printed item. I said it was a finalized design and you do get to see the detail of the minis


Yes and no. The key is that a render shows an idealised concept of the model.

The actual details which print and how they appear on the model itself you don't know until its printed. Or rather a potential customer won't know.
Furthermore you're not selling the STL, you're selling the printed model. Customers would expect you have printed at least one of every model you sell to a standard that you're happy to ship to a customer. That's your display model for taking photos of and perhaps painting up to a good standard to show off as well.

Again it comes back to letting the customer know what they are in for and as a firm providing printed models your best advert is of a printed model. The STL won't matter if your printer can't print that detail well; or if the scale of the model means that when its printed some fine details from the STL don't register on the model as much.



Now you can argue that many patreons get away showing very few printed models and showing just stls and I would agree with that without question. However they are often selling at a steep discount and a lack of physical examples can hurt them too. Because now a potential customer has to go looking on social media or such to find out just how good the models really look when actually printed. Which has the risk that your customer might find other brand models whilst on that hunt; or might only see really sloppy printing or paint jobs that make the models appear worse than they are.


In the end I'm fully aware that good printing and good photography take time and that for a company that also costs money. However at the same time you have to show faith in your product and be proud to show off the finished work which your customers are buying into.

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 Overread wrote:
 lord marcus wrote:
stroller wrote:
With respect, a render is not a finished article.

Overread & Bob's pictures give me a much clearer idea of what I'd actually be getting for my money.


I ever said it was a finished, printed item. I said it was a finalized design and you do get to see the detail of the minis


Yes and no. The key is that a render shows an idealised concept of the model.

The actual details which print and how they appear on the model itself you don't know until its printed. Or rather a potential customer won't know.
Furthermore you're not selling the STL, you're selling the printed model. Customers would expect you have printed at least one of every model you sell to a standard that you're happy to ship to a customer. That's your display model for taking photos of and perhaps painting up to a good standard to show off as well.

Again it comes back to letting the customer know what they are in for and as a firm providing printed models your best advert is of a printed model. The STL won't matter if your printer can't print that detail well; or if the scale of the model means that when its printed some fine details from the STL don't register on the model as much.



Now you can argue that many patreons get away showing very few printed models and showing just stls and I would agree with that without question. However they are often selling at a steep discount and a lack of physical examples can hurt them too. Because now a potential customer has to go looking on social media or such to find out just how good the models really look when actually printed. Which has the risk that your customer might find other brand models whilst on that hunt; or might only see really sloppy printing or paint jobs that make the models appear worse than they are.


In the end I'm fully aware that good printing and good photography take time and that for a company that also costs money. However at the same time you have to show faith in your product and be proud to show off the finished work which your customers are buying into.


I appreciate that. And I am trying to assure you we are working on getting example photos up.

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I didn't see any painted miniatures on the site at all. Looks like you're starting a kickstarter with the site.

I regularly remove posts from people that simply post renders on the subreddit that I moderate

Try and have all of the models painted that you're offering in the thumbnail!

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I disagree slightly with Steve.

All painted would be nice, but all as supplied is more important (to me, anyway).
   
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SoCal

Would pictures of printed minis that had been primed (or primed black with zenithal white spray) work as a time saving alternative to full paint jobs?

   
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Most of FW's models are bare resin or undercoated. Undercoating has the bonus that it will help hide join seams and any repair work to fill in gaps and the like. It works well and can show the raw detail of the model.

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I'll agree with many who already posted here. Additionally, I've been checking back in at TIPS regularly to see what they have available, and have been ready to purchase.

What has stopped me is the scale, and lack of overall examples compared to popular manufacturers. If I'm going to order, and it comes back in "Perry" scale, that likely wouldn't work for Mordheim. If its "GW" scale, then I sort of know what I'm getting. Having straight on shots showing other manufacturers, even of the bare print, will give someone an idea of height, width, overall proportion.

As it is, I have to rely on trawling through Dakka to find discussion of it.

If there is a uniform way to have ordering by a scale desired would be helpful. Like "I'd like these in G scale (meaning GW scale)" or "I'd like these in P scale (Perry)" would be easier. But I guess not all the original offerings are uniform in base size, so scaling by 10 of 20% might be different across lines.

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life.

 Cruentus wrote:
I'll agree with many who already posted here. Additionally, I've been checking back in at TIPS regularly to see what they have available, and have been ready to purchase.

What has stopped me is the scale, and lack of overall examples compared to popular manufacturers. If I'm going to order, and it comes back in "Perry" scale, that likely wouldn't work for Mordheim. If its "GW" scale, then I sort of know what I'm getting. Having straight on shots showing other manufacturers, even of the bare print, will give someone an idea of height, width, overall proportion.

As it is, I have to rely on trawling through Dakka to find discussion of it.

If there is a uniform way to have ordering by a scale desired would be helpful. Like "I'd like these in G scale (meaning GW scale)" or "I'd like these in P scale (Perry)" would be easier. But I guess not all the original offerings are uniform in base size, so scaling by 10 of 20% might be different across lines.


If you email us before you order, we can generate some rough scale comparisons and go back and forth with you on how you would like certain things to be scaled. We want to make sure you're buying experience is the best it can be.

Unless otherwise noted, the majority of our figures and terrain are scaled for 28 mm. Lovecraft's tend to be on the chunkier side which you could probably say would be more 32 mm instead.

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Philadelphia

 lord marcus wrote:
 Cruentus wrote:
I'll agree with many who already posted here. Additionally, I've been checking back in at TIPS regularly to see what they have available, and have been ready to purchase.

What has stopped me is the scale, and lack of overall examples compared to popular manufacturers. If I'm going to order, and it comes back in "Perry" scale, that likely wouldn't work for Mordheim. If its "GW" scale, then I sort of know what I'm getting. Having straight on shots showing other manufacturers, even of the bare print, will give someone an idea of height, width, overall proportion.

As it is, I have to rely on trawling through Dakka to find discussion of it.

If there is a uniform way to have ordering by a scale desired would be helpful. Like "I'd like these in G scale (meaning GW scale)" or "I'd like these in P scale (Perry)" would be easier. But I guess not all the original offerings are uniform in base size, so scaling by 10 of 20% might be different across lines.


If you email us before you order, we can generate some rough scale comparisons and go back and forth with you on how you would like certain things to be scaled. We want to make sure you're buying experience is the best it can be.

Unless otherwise noted, the majority of our figures and terrain are scaled for 28 mm. Lovecraft's tend to be on the chunkier side which you could probably say would be more 32 mm instead.
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If I'm trying to yeet $200 on an impulse buy I dont want to email you back and forth about specifics

If you dont want to hire a painter to paint anything you should at least do silhouettes /shadows of popular scale models

I bought this immediately when seeing this screenshot since they showed the size comparison


   
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 Stevefamine wrote:
 lord marcus wrote:
 Cruentus wrote:
I'll agree with many who already posted here. Additionally, I've been checking back in at TIPS regularly to see what they have available, and have been ready to purchase.

What has stopped me is the scale, and lack of overall examples compared to popular manufacturers. If I'm going to order, and it comes back in "Perry" scale, that likely wouldn't work for Mordheim. If its "GW" scale, then I sort of know what I'm getting. Having straight on shots showing other manufacturers, even of the bare print, will give someone an idea of height, width, overall proportion.

As it is, I have to rely on trawling through Dakka to find discussion of it.

If there is a uniform way to have ordering by a scale desired would be helpful. Like "I'd like these in G scale (meaning GW scale)" or "I'd like these in P scale (Perry)" would be easier. But I guess not all the original offerings are uniform in base size, so scaling by 10 of 20% might be different across lines.


If you email us before you order, we can generate some rough scale comparisons and go back and forth with you on how you would like certain things to be scaled. We want to make sure you're buying experience is the best it can be.

Unless otherwise noted, the majority of our figures and terrain are scaled for 28 mm. Lovecraft's tend to be on the chunkier side which you could probably say would be more 32 mm instead.
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If I'm trying to yeet $200 on an impulse buy I dont want to email you back and forth about specifics

If you dont want to hire a painter to paint anything you should at least do silhouettes /shadows of popular scale models

I bought this immediately when seeing this screenshot since they showed the size comparison



While I get that, I do, sometimes specifics bear hashing out

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