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Like many of us I've built up quite a collection of models and armies over the years. It's getting to the stage that I'm thinking of moving out of my one bedroom flat to a bigger place, just so I have somewhere to store everything in a tidy fashion.

Before I answer my own question, a bit of background as to what I collect and why:

The Imperial Guard were my first love back in 2nd edition. Since then I've kept that army going, replacing models where necessary, stripping some so I could make a more uniform colour scheme. After some time I decided to collect Tyranids too, just so my Imperial Guard would have something to fight against.

So far so good. Then GW released both Deathwatch and Genestealer Cult, both armies I'd been waiting for years for a release / re-release for. Great, I thought, now I can give both my armies some allies and keep with the theme.

Now with my 4 armies I'm quite happy with what I've got. Of course a collector's job is never done, so I'm always on the lookout to expand all 4 of these armies. Generally speaking though I'm content with the mix.



To go back to the thread title, the one thing I think would seriously make me consider collecting more armies is if we see an Emperor's Children codex and models release. I have always liked the idea of collecting Chaos (though in my mind Tyranids are the real threat to the Imperium, not Chaos), I've just steered clear because, well, I have enough models as it is. Slaanesh is my favourite of the Chaos gods, so if they were shown some love (similar to the Death Guard and Thousand Sons) I'm not sure I could resist the temptation.

On the plus side I could use my Imperial Guard against Emperor's Children easily enough. I would also have to collect a Grey Knights force to give them the suitable Ordo support. Then I'd also collect a Slaanesh Daemons army to support the Emperor's Children. So if (when?) this codex is released it's going to get expensive for me...


Sorry for the ramble, just thought I'd give some context as to why I'm asking the question. Just wondering if others are in a similar position to me, waiting for a specific release to really splash the cash.



Oh, and it would be nice if we could avoid answers like "GW would need to write better rules first" or "GW would have to lower their prices". Valid points, though I think we all know that neither scenario is likely to happen.
   
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[DCM]
Ambitious Archon





Port Carmine

Bring out new models.

I play Drukhari, but was VERY tempted by GSC when they came out, and I bought some Plague Marines because I liked the new sculpts and wanted to paint them.

On the other hand, I would never buy an Asuryani army because I think their current range looks like gak.

For me it's not the rules, those change, whereas cool models remain cool.

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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge





Upstate, New York

Free rules.

Once I start an army, I want to keep it up to date, so I can play it. It’s not just the cost of the models, but the commitment to buying a codex every edition.

I would love to add an imperial knight to my collection, or dust off some old RT projects and flesh them out to modern detachments. But I’m mot willing to commit to the paper to keep them up to date to play.

(And yes I know there are other ways to get the rules, but choose not to.)

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 Nevelon wrote:
Free rules.


I'd settle for free codexes.

   
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UK

Pre-painted models.

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Upstate, New York

 John Prins wrote:
 Nevelon wrote:
Free rules.


I'd settle for free codexes.


Sorry, hit post before I finished my thoughts. Yes, exactly this.

   
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Make models for stuff that isnt marines.

In 7th I bought Admech, Harlequin that led into Drukhari, and GSC armies.

In 8th I bought zero new armies. Bought the new ork release, wasnt into sisters.

In 9th I bought a 3d printer, because new miniatures for the armies I like arent being made by GW.

Wouldve been insanely easy for them to retain me as a whale consumer, it's just that supporting like 15/20 of the factions in the game is apparently too hard.

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"I can't believe all these tryhard WAACs out there just care about winning all the time when it's supposed to be a game for fun!!!!!!! Also here's my 27 page essay on why marines are OP and Orkz should get a bunch of OP rules so I can win more games

-the_scotsman"

-ERJAK 
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut





New models.

I have Orks, CSM/TS, and Necrons. I bought into Necrons, because I've always loved the concept and the new models are awesome.

Eldar are my other childhood dream, so...new models.

   
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Daemonic Dreadnought




The dark hollows of Kentucky

Fun, useful, and thematic rules. I started R&H back in 7th because after purchasing IA13 for the rules for all of those awesome fw tanks and dreads for my CSM, I looked at the R&H rules in the back of the book and thought "Damn, this looks like fun".

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Longtime Dakkanaut




NE Ohio, USA

Keep making new models I like.

Right now this is mostly occurring in AoS. In the past year I've built 4 different armies & I'll be very interested in seeing what they do with the vampires in the near future.
But recently it happened in 40k with the 9th ed Primaris wave. They finally released enough Primaris stuff I really liked that I could form it into a stand alone army vs just adding something onto one of my existing forces.

And although they aren't new, in the near future I may well start a Drukari force.
This is because the rules of 8th/9th finally allow me to make forces concentrating on the fast/heavy models I like & completely skip 99% of the actual elves and need no Raiders/Ravages.
Will this prove effective? (Shrugs) Doesn't matter as it'll be a force {i'll} enjoy playing with.
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut






Make a single core ruleset which works for all sizes/'types' of games, and normalise smaller format games (<1000 points).

Also lower and standardise prices.

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I come more from a painting/modelling side and for me it would be... lets say more flexibility with the start collecting boxes. I don't know if that is a common experience, but when I started collecting IG the big army box was not in stock in the store and the store clerk asked me if I would mind if he just put the stuff together from seperate boxes and sell them for the same price (he said they are allowed to do that).

Later I considered dabbling a bit into Admech and the start collecting box would have been almost perfect as it included most of the models I wanted to build, with the sole exception that I would prefer an Ironstrider (42,50€) instead of a Dunerider (60 €). I asked if it would be possible to get the start collecting deal and just switch models, especially since I would switch to a cheaper one (the set would still have been cheaper than buying the Rangers and the techpriest seperately), but they told me they are not allowed to do that.

I believe if they would change that, it would - at least in my case - lower the treshhold to get a small contingent of a new army. Maybe something like "1 single character up to 25 € + 1 Troop box + one other set up to 60 € all together for 80€". In the case of AdMech that's the same start collecting box... or a Dunecrawler/Ironstrider/Kataphrons etc. instead of the Dunerider.
No idea if that would be economically problematic, but I would like it.

~5750 build and painted 
   
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 Lord Damocles wrote:
Make a single core ruleset which works for all sizes/'types' of games, and normalise smaller format games (<1000 points).


Doesn't the current ruleset pretty much handle this?

   
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 Daedalus81 wrote:
 Lord Damocles wrote:
Make a single core ruleset which works for all sizes/'types' of games, and normalise smaller format games (<1000 points).


Doesn't the current ruleset pretty much handle this?


People really seem to enjoy jamming 2k points of models into an 8-1/2x11 sheet of paper, rolling 6000 dice, declaring the game over and complaining about why the game always ends turn 3.

"I can't believe all these tryhard WAACs out there just care about winning all the time when it's supposed to be a game for fun!!!!!!! Also here's my 27 page essay on why marines are OP and Orkz should get a bunch of OP rules so I can win more games

-the_scotsman"

-ERJAK 
   
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 Daedalus81 wrote:
 Lord Damocles wrote:
Make a single core ruleset which works for all sizes/'types' of games, and normalise smaller format games (<1000 points).


Doesn't the current ruleset pretty much handle this?

Not when it has Three Ways to Play™, different missions for different points levels, two parallel points systems, Crusade, etc. it doesn't; no.

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 Lord Damocles wrote:
 Daedalus81 wrote:
 Lord Damocles wrote:
Make a single core ruleset which works for all sizes/'types' of games, and normalise smaller format games (<1000 points).


Doesn't the current ruleset pretty much handle this?

Not when it has Three Ways to Play™, different missions for different points levels, etc. it doesn't, no.


So you would prefer one set of missions for all occasions? That seems impractical.

   
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Longtime Dakkanaut






 Daedalus81 wrote:
 Lord Damocles wrote:
 Daedalus81 wrote:
 Lord Damocles wrote:
Make a single core ruleset which works for all sizes/'types' of games, and normalise smaller format games (<1000 points).


Doesn't the current ruleset pretty much handle this?

Not when it has Three Ways to Play™, different missions for different points levels, etc. it doesn't, no.


So you would prefer one set of missions for all occasions? That seems impractical.

It was so impractical for the previous eight editions. How did we cope!?
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





New models or at the very least plastic models instead of finecast.
   
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Fixture of Dakka




Would either have to make the army cost cheaper or being played at something else then 2000pts. But considering GW policy I think there is a 0% chance of that ever happening.

If you have to kill, then kill in the best manner. If you slaughter, then slaughter in the best manner. Let one of you sharpen his knife so his animal feels no pain. 
   
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UK

Slow down the rules releases. If I want to maintain multiple forces, I don’t want to have to replace all their codexes every couple of years.

 
   
Made in ca
Fresh-Faced New User






Cool terrain kits, maybe with optional skulls. Kinda like AoS

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NE Ohio, USA

Karol wrote:
Would either have to make the army cost cheaper or being played at something else then 2000pts. But considering GW policy I think there is a 0% chance of that ever happening.


GW does not dictate that you play 2k pt games, that's on you & who you play with.
   
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Fixture of Dakka




Yeah, and match played is not the enforced the way to play. Yet if you go to play people at the stores, the armies and rules sets seem to be unified to fit the local games. And the chance to force anyone to play smaller games is exactly zero, specially if you are not friends or if they already bought a 2000pts army and can't downgrade to smaller army easy.

If GW made all armies work at a number of models, which 1000pts plays, people would be playing it more often. Otherwise people play what ever is most closest to what was played in prior editions army sized.

If you have to kill, then kill in the best manner. If you slaughter, then slaughter in the best manner. Let one of you sharpen his knife so his animal feels no pain. 
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




Fix stupid stuff that shouldve been fixed, like giving chaos space marines and grey knights their extra wounds, also stop being unprofessional and having typos in their faq/updates
   
Made in ca
Longtime Dakkanaut





Avoid an edition reset. I'm done when and if 10th happens.

   
Made in de
Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle




Expand on cool theme forces within the larger factions. My main army is Death Guard, which I started at the end of 5th when they were just "Plague Marines and you have to nurglify everything CSM on your own".
My second army are Nurgle Daemons and I ignore all the other Daemons. My third army are Snakebites Orks where I ignore all the vehicles. I'm also interested in Iyanden Eldar purely made of wraith units. Vanguard Marines where the first loyalist Marines that I actually found interesting.
So, if GW provides those specialized forces I'm all for it. And it's also good for starters I'd say. You have a small roster at first but as we all know at some point you expand and buy into the greater faction anyway.
   
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ccs wrote:
Karol wrote:
Would either have to make the army cost cheaper or being played at something else then 2000pts. But considering GW policy I think there is a 0% chance of that ever happening.


GW does not dictate that you play 2k pt games, that's on you & who you play with.

Not in a strict sense; but they do poke people to play at higher points.

If you look at a White Dwarf battle report, it will be 1500pts plus.
If you go into a GW store, they will most likely suggest playing 1500pts plus.
If you look at sample armies GW show, they will mostly be 1500pts plus.
If you attend a GW [supported] tournament it will be 1500pts plus.

Yes, anybody can play at smaller points, and can create a group which does the same, but the vast majority of existing player groups will primarily [expect to] play at higher points almost exclusively - which is obviously what GW want, because then they sell more toys.
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut





 Lord Damocles wrote:
It was so impractical for the previous eight editions. How did we cope!?


By not playing games outside the generally accepted standard point level.

   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





Model is the obvious answer but good fluff about other factions would be nice. I don't collect deathwatch because they're black-- I like the idea that they're elite and specialized and that they work with the Inquisition.

If black library did something akin to the horus heresy, but for Eldar, I might be able to be interested in them. From the outside, they're just more elves and all that classically comes along with that ( dying race, superiority complex--same story different universe every time with elves)
   
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A greater depth an dimension to armies with the model range to back it up
   
 
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