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2021/04/30 17:52:50
Subject: [2000] - Necrons - The Big 3 Killed My Baby
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Freaky Flayed One
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Looking for any constructive feedback, and maybe even non-constructive. I'm just getting back into the hobby after being absent from 5th edition.
Necrons Supreme Command Detachment
SUB-FACTION: Szarekhan
LORD OF WAR
WARLORD: The Silent King
1x Szarekh
2x Triarchal Menhir
TRAITS: The Triarch's Will
Necrons Battalion Detachment ( 3CP - 1550PT )
SUB-FACTION: Szarekhan
HQ
Catacomb Command Barge with Gauss Cannon
TRAITS: Enduring Will
RELICS: Voltaic Staff
STRATAGEMS: Rarefied Nobility
Plasmancer
TRAITS: Immortal Pride
RELICS: Gauntlet of the Conflagrator
STRATAGEMS: Dynastic Heirlooms, Rarefied Nobility
Technomancer with Canoptek cloak
RELICS: Veil of Darkness
STRATAGEMS: Dynastic Heirlooms
TROOPS
Necron Warriors
15x Necron Warrior: Gauss reaper
Necron Warriors
15x Necron Warrior: Gauss reaper
Necron Warriors
10x Necron Warrior
Necron Warriors
10x Necron Warrior
ELITES
C’tan Shard of the Void Dragon
POWER S: C'tan Shard of the Void Dragon - Voltaic Storm, Sky of Falling Stars
HEAVY SUPPORT
Annihilation Barge
Annihilation Barge
STRATAGEMS
Dynastic Heirlooms (1CP)
Dynastic Heirlooms (1CP)
Rarefied Nobility (1CP)
Rarefied Nobility (1CP)
Total Command Points: 5/18
Total Points: 2000/2000
So the general idea is to have two 15 man warrior squads forming the pressure-push side of the army, supported by Technomancer and Plasmancer towards enemy objectives. Annihilation Barges, Catacomb, Silent King and Void Dragon providing board control and threats.
I went with a general theme of the plasmancer and C'tan providing MW pressure to support the 15x warrior squads, and lots of high attack ranged weaponry for general objective support. I am worried that the Canoptek cloak heal/reanimation might not be enough of a durability boost, and I'm also worried about the only close-combat punch being the C'tan and possibly catacomb. Being able to use the Technomancer to veil-yank some warriors out of close combat danger or to reposition them might be a false hope. Thoughts?
Edit: I think I have the CP wrong, I'm just going off the WH40k App. It's either 11 CP remaining or 5 CP remaining and I'm not sure which. I'm still new to 9th. If it's only 5 CP remaining I think that I might drop the Conflagrator relic stratagem and the Immortal Pride stratagem. I really don't know how important CP are, haven't played since 5th edition. Please include CP importance in your feedback for this army setup.
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2021/05/01 15:49:17
Subject: Re:[2000] - Necrons - The Big 3 Killed My Baby
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Deranged Necron Destroyer
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If you're going to do warrior blobs, 20 models + Chronomancer for each is pretty much mandatory. Generally, you want to play this sort of list as Novokh, since it really buffs what your warrior blobs do in melee. Skip the techonancer, stick the veil on one of the Chronomancers. The Chronomancers are much much better at keeping your warriors alive. If you want to go all in on the warrior surviveability, consider a Reanimator.
Silent King + Void Dragon and Novokh Warriors should be enough melee punch.
Plasmanacer can probably skip the WL Trait and Relic, if you want more MW's off him take the Arkhana?
I think Annihilation Barges are actually pretty decent, but do you need that kind of removal in this list? Enemy blobs can be dropped by warriors, and light vehicles tend to be just a bit too much for 2 barges to handle on their own.
I'd probably do Immortals, Cryptothralls, or Scarabs instead of the 10 man Warrior squads for objectives/actions/screens.
CP: you should start at 12 at 2k, right? Supreme Command + Battalion is net 0, so then just subtract your pregame stuff. I'd take 2 Relics (Voltaic, Veil) and a WL Trait on the CCB (Enduring Will)
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2021/05/01 17:50:13
Subject: Re:[2000] - Necrons - The Big 3 Killed My Baby
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Freaky Flayed One
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I tried to incorporate your feedback, I'm interested in a medium level of warrior durability so I went with two Chronomancers. I also added an annihilation barge and went with 2 blobs of warriors. Had to drop Gauss on CCB down to a Tesla, but might pick up some lucky 6s there.
Let me know what you think. I really love the annihilation barges conceptually, but don't have much experience playing them. Also, re:Novokh, do you think it's worth it over the 6" prebattle move and oobsec traits of a custom?
++ Supreme Command Detachment 0CP (Necrons) [23 PL, 3CP, 450pts] ++
Dynasty Choice: Dynasty: Szarekhan
The Silent King [23 PL, 3CP, 450pts]
. 2x Triarchal Menhir: 2x Annihilator Beam
++ Spearhead Detachment -3CP (Necrons) [77 PL, 7CP, 1,550pts] ++
Dynasty Choice: Custom: Circumstance of Awakening: Relentlessly Expansionist, Dynastic Tradition: Eternal Conquerors
Dynastic Advisor [4 PL, -1CP, 80pts]
. Chronomancer: Aeonstave, Dynastic Heirlooms, Relic: Veil of Darkness
Catacomb Command Barge [9 PL, -1CP, 145pts]: Rarefied Nobility, Relic: Voltaic Staff, Staff of Light, Tesla Cannon, Warlord Trait (Codex 1): Enduring Will
Chronomancer [4 PL, 80pts]: Aeonstave
Necron Warriors [12 PL, 260pts]
. 20x Necron Warrior (Gauss Reaper): 20x Gauss Reaper
Necron Warriors [12 PL, 260pts]
. 20x Necron Warrior (Gauss Reaper): 20x Gauss Reaper
C'tan Shard of the Void Dragon [18 PL, 350pts]: Power of the C'tan: Sky of Falling Stars
Annihilation Barge [6 PL, 125pts]: Gauss Cannon
Annihilation Barge [6 PL, 125pts]: Gauss Cannon
Annihilation Barge [6 PL, 125pts]: Gauss Cannon
++ Total: [100 PL, 10CP, 2,000pts] ++
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2021/05/03 08:51:08
Subject: [2000] - Necrons - The Big 3 Killed My Baby
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Well, you have two big guys in your list.
In my book, one would suffice such as TSK but VD gives you some flavor in the anti-tank department.
Annihilation Barges look good on paper, but my experience is that tesla often bounces off when you play against Marines.
I'd stay away from them in competitive play.
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2021/05/07 21:45:17
Subject: [2000] - Necrons - The Big 3 Killed My Baby
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Irked Necron Immortal
Switzerland
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are the barges good against Drukhari Raiders?
(I was thinking to get some or no Heavy support at all)
I would say
- cut 1 Barge and make it a patrol detachment
- get 6 Cryptothralls
- get a gauss canon on your CCB
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2021/05/08 07:28:32
Subject: [2000] - Necrons - The Big 3 Killed My Baby
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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are the barges good against Drukhari Raiders?
This has been discussed in the Tactics section.
A Barge cannot kill a Raider at first sight and killing several Raiders at once is an issue.
So tactically Raiders will eventually bring their load forward and then you have to deal with the passengers asap.
However, Necrons will generally win in a protracted fight.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
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Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a "" I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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