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2021/05/09 18:17:30
Subject: Favorite book / author from the Horus Heresy ?
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Inquisitorial Keeper of the Xenobanks
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Hi there,
Today I finished reading a Thousand Sons and have just started to Prospero Burns. I've to admit A Thousand Sons is now one of my favorite HH book but Prospero Burns starts very "well":
It's very violent, crude and adult in it's description of war and people. Ofc it's Dan Abnett but I wasn't expecting that from a HH novel.
I read Nemesis a few weeks ago and, if it's not a bad book in itself, wasn't as interesting or convincing.
The last time I was that involved in a HH book was with Fulgrim I think.
What about you ?
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2021/05/09 18:28:31
Subject: Favorite book / author from the Horus Heresy ?
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Walking Dead Wraithlord
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Im at Book 33 So far. Caveat - I only do audio books.
For me its hands down:
Mechanicum.
God I love Mechanicum!! Maybe because its the last book that was narrated by Toby Longworth as far as I can tell thusfar.
Honorable mentions: Legion & Nemesis.
And of course Horus Rising/ Galaxy in flames.
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2021/05/09 18:34:56
Subject: Favorite book / author from the Horus Heresy ?
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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If I had to pick one.....maybe First Heretic.
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2021/05/09 18:43:41
Subject: Re:Favorite book / author from the Horus Heresy ?
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Secretive Dark Angels Veteran
Canada
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Horus Rising.
Honourable mentions/ones that I didn't expect to like as much as I did - First Heretic and A Thousand Sons
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2021/05/09 18:44:27
Subject: Favorite book / author from the Horus Heresy ?
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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Definitely First Heretic. That whole arc is just fantastic.
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2021/05/09 19:25:10
Subject: Favorite book / author from the Horus Heresy ?
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Inquisitorial Keeper of the Xenobanks
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First heretic is next on my list, I won't have to wait for long !
Mechanicum was indeed a good read too, even though I never even tried audio books
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2021/05/09 20:46:40
Subject: Favorite book / author from the Horus Heresy ?
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Gargantuan Gargant
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Chris Wraight is one of my top writers atm, given how he breathed life into one of the pretty much unexplored legions of the HH with the White Scars and really made them compelling and interesting for both their Primarch and Legion dynamics. Even their situation regarding their side of the traitors was quite unique where they weren't simply executed en masse.
So in terms of books, The Path of Heaven or Master of Mankind.
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2021/05/09 22:19:08
Subject: Favorite book / author from the Horus Heresy ?
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Preparing the Invasion of Terra
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First Heretic and Betrayer are brilliant together.
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2021/05/10 00:34:44
Subject: Favorite book / author from the Horus Heresy ?
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Secretive Dark Angels Veteran
Canada
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Gert wrote:First Heretic and Betrayer are brilliant together.
Can confirm. While I play and follow Loyalists in 40k, the narrative strength of the HH series for me is the traitor legions.
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2021/05/10 03:08:25
Subject: Favorite book / author from the Horus Heresy ?
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Stealthy Grot Snipa
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I really enjoyed Betrayer, and for favorite authors Chris Wraight has probably taken that spot. Abnett is great, but I find that he has trouble putting together decent endings to his novels, so you get a novel that's 90% amazing and then a final 10% of let down.
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2021/05/11 14:01:28
Subject: Favorite book / author from the Horus Heresy ?
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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Saturnine, I know it's very new and has the advantage of tying up many loose ends, but I really had some superlative pieces of writing in it. Bouncing between battlefields, giving a sense of scale and some great personal views of the primarchs, it hit every beat.
The crescendo it builds to at the end, despite being part of a series, is amazing, possibly the best Warhamer passage I've read. It's so very, very satisfying, seeing Abbadon written at the best he always deserved.
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2021/05/11 14:20:53
Subject: Favorite book / author from the Horus Heresy ?
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
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I am torn between A Thousand Sons and Horus Rising.
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2021/05/12 13:26:03
Subject: Favorite book / author from the Horus Heresy ?
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
Australia
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Slaves to Darkness by John French is my favourite. Honourable mentions go to Master of Mankind/Betrayer by ADB and Path of Heaven by Wraight.
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The Circle of Iniquity
The Fourth Seal
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2021/05/12 13:37:12
Subject: Re:Favorite book / author from the Horus Heresy ?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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My favourite HH author is Chris Wraight, for the reasons given by others above, plus I met him in real life and he is a nice bloke! Close second is Aaron Dembski-Bowden and a close third is Dan Abnett. I would say those three are the premier Black Library authors.
In a pursuing pack are a few others who have good books, but not quite as gripping. I would say Guy Haley leads this group and it also includes Graham McNeill and John French.
Of the rest, David Annandale is fine. James Swallow's writing has issues, but I can normally plow on through. Gav Thorpe, despite being as a lovely a chap as you could hope to meet, bores me with his writing. Nick Kyme has nothing wrong with his writing, but almost nothing good about it either. It just kinda exists in a pointless vacuum. Ben Counter hasn't written anything since the early books in the series, but I would rather gouge out my own eyes and use them to block up my own ears than read or listen to any of his stuff ever again.
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2021/05/12 14:18:40
Subject: Favorite book / author from the Horus Heresy ?
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Dour Wolf Priest with Iron Wolf Amulet
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I liked Prospero Burns a lot, it's far away from the usual "bolter porn" you associate with Black Library, and especially for a Space Wolves novel, it's more interested in culture and storytelling. It's a legitimately great book on its own merits. I thought A Thousand Sons was a bit of a letdown in comparison, the portrayal of the Thousand Sons and the Space Wolves was almost cartoonish in how it made one side the innocent "good guys" and the other side hypocritical "bad guys". Just my take on it, but it's also been nearly a decade since I read them so maybe my opinion would change.
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2021/05/12 16:23:19
Subject: Favorite book / author from the Horus Heresy ?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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+1 to First Heretic and Betrayer, for making me interested (and even sympathetic) to a Legion I previously knew very little/cared very little about.
Honourable mention to anything by ADB and Chris Wraight
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2021/05/12 16:54:08
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Bryan Ansell
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Recently Saturnine, It was nice to see the 'good guys' get a victory. Perturabo gets fleshed out some more. Dorn does more than pace round the strategium.
I also just finished the Fury of Magnus, brought because I was bored. I really enjoyed it and the dénouement was worth it. Magnus is almost sympathetic.
False Gods, First Heretic are probably my favourites of the bunch.
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2021/05/13 09:14:07
Subject: Favorite book / author from the Horus Heresy ?
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine
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Mechanicum really stands out for me. The first few HH books were all great though. They start to really lose focus though, and I’ve all but given up trying to read them now. There’s just too many of them.
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2021/05/13 10:24:23
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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I recall how intense the tragedy of the first trilogy was. So probably galaxy in flames. The massacre of Istvaan V and the betrayal leading up to it was simply amazing. I have to play devils advocate for a little bit though. I wouldn't say it's the best book in the series. It just covers one of the most notable moments, and it covers it well. I kind of just wanted to read about the betrayal/massacre (Istvaan V), the burning of Prospero, the dark angels civil war and the siege of terra. Now I'm just waiting for the siege.
Honorable mention to the last church.
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2021/05/13 15:54:19
Subject: Favorite book / author from the Horus Heresy ?
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Stealthy Grot Snipa
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General Kroll wrote:Mechanicum really stands out for me. The first few HH books were all great though. They start to really lose focus though, and I’ve all but given up trying to read them now. There’s just too many of them.
I certainly don't. I read the authors that I know write well, and even then I mostly read the ones that focus on the legions that I like.
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2021/05/13 19:58:05
Subject: Favorite book / author from the Horus Heresy ?
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Bryan Ansell
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Mr. Grey wrote: General Kroll wrote:Mechanicum really stands out for me. The first few HH books were all great though. They start to really lose focus though, and I’ve all but given up trying to read them now. There’s just too many of them.
I certainly don't. I read the authors that I know write well, and even then I mostly read the ones that focus on the legions that I like.
This is the way.
Some books I wish I hadn't picked up.
I wish there was a way to pick up ebook versions without some of the sub plot stuff. I'm nearing the end of Mortis and my god I am sick and tired of Only A Perrson and John Grammarly.
Spoliers: I'm pretty sure my skim reading is correct but the DA are fighting to get into Fulgrims butthole?
Mortis: Not as much Titan on Titan action as you expected.
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2021/05/13 23:23:28
Subject: Favorite book / author from the Horus Heresy ?
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
Noctis Labyrinthus
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Andilus Greatsword wrote:I liked Prospero Burns a lot, it's far away from the usual "bolter porn" you associate with Black Library, and especially for a Space Wolves novel, it's more interested in culture and storytelling. It's a legitimately great book on its own merits. I thought A Thousand Sons was a bit of a letdown in comparison, the portrayal of the Thousand Sons and the Space Wolves was almost cartoonish in how it made one side the innocent "good guys" and the other side hypocritical "bad guys". Just my take on it, but it's also been nearly a decade since I read them so maybe my opinion would change.
I think you have it backwards my friend. Neither book portrays the opposition as having any sympathetic characters (which is kind of the point, they are a double feature, one is meant to complement the other), but whereas A Thousand Sons takes pains to show within its own narrative that despite their good intentions the Thousand Sons legion were so duped that they were literally using daemons as familiars and Magnus' mistakes ultimately damned his Legion, Propsero Burns goes out of its way to whitewash everything the Space Wolves did and Kasper Hawser's narrtion literally saying that the Space Wolves were fully justified in attempting to purge the Thousand Sons legion.
Propsero Burns is also one of the more unintentionally hilarious HH novels, what with the Space Wolves constantly being described as being possessed of a "wet-leopard growl (or in one case a purr)", or making it canon that the wolves the Space Wolves ride are just giant naked former Space Wolves.
As far as the topic, I'm pretty out of the loop. My favorites were always Horus Rising, A Thousand Sons, and The First Heretic. Also shout out to Betrayer, which was gak but is erroneously considered one of the best in the series.
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2021/05/15 16:06:39
Subject: Re:Favorite book / author from the Horus Heresy ?
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Stealthy Grot Snipa
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Propsero Burns is also one of the more unintentionally hilarious HH novels, what with the Space Wolves constantly being described as being possessed of a "wet-leopard growl (or in one case a purr)", or making it canon that the wolves the Space Wolves ride are just giant naked former Space Wolves.
The constant and unending repetition of this phrase also makes the book practically unreadable a second or a third time. I dearly wish an editor had spoken up and told Abnett to cut about a dozen of those. It's like the author came up with "wet leopard growl" and then had a block about any and all other threatening animal noises he could have used instead.
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2021/05/16 16:09:19
Subject: Favorite book / author from the Horus Heresy ?
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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Betrayer and buried dagger are 2 of my favourites.
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2022/03/13 11:05:44
Subject: Favorite book / author from the Horus Heresy ?
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Inquisitorial Keeper of the Xenobanks
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I will soon finish my Emperor's Children arc with Fulgrim, and start my Scars and Path of Heaven coming in the mail. However would you say that I need to start by the Primarch book (Jagathai Khan) ?
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2022/03/14 04:48:11
Subject: Favorite book / author from the Horus Heresy ?
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Troubled By Non-Compliant Worlds
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I liked Horus Rising and Flight of the Eisenstein. Haven't read a whole lot of the HH series yet.
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2022/03/14 14:50:54
Subject: Favorite book / author from the Horus Heresy ?
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Poisonous Kroot Headhunter
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Mechanicum would be #1 for me, no question.
Runner up would be The First Heretic for being the only story where I've ever sympathized with a Chaos character.
Honorable Mentions:
A Thousand Sons: When a story makes you hate a loyalist Legion like the Space Wolves more than any of the Chaos Legions, it's done something right.
Scars: I never knew or cared much about the White Scars before this book, they were just "the biker chapter". Now they are one of my favorite legions. I love how they were portrayed, both emotionally and aesthetically.
Betrayer: For being a great sequel that built well of The First Heretic.
The Last Chuch: The only short story that I really remember from the HH. Was a great premise that hit hard and didn't overstay its welcome.
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2022/03/18 17:12:01
Subject: Re:Favorite book / author from the Horus Heresy ?
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+1 for the White Scars books, I was not interested in them as a legion before reading the books. So, the White Scars arc as a whole for me, it's short, sweet and to the point, unlike some legions who get a lot of filler, padding and whatnot to draw things out in excruciatingly bad detail.
Scars and Path to Heaven were the perfect arc for me, introducing us to the Legion, what makes them tick and how they got to Terra. Perfect. But then Chris capped it off perfectly by also penning Warhawk. The Primarch book and novella are not required reading, but nicely add to the overall story, sowing some seeds for future stuff.
I also really like the novella Prince of Crows, which nicely delves into just how dysfunctional the Night Lords truly are and how awesome Jago is, one of the few ballsy enough to call out their primarch on how messed up he truly is. Tacking onto this, the audio drama the Long Night, which is a sequel of sorts to the novella and deals with the twisted sense of justice the Night Lords hold.
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2022/03/19 14:04:13
Subject: Favorite book / author from the Horus Heresy ?
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Stubborn Hammerer
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I have only read a few books so far, but I was deeply surprised with the quality of Angel Exterminatus. Easily the best work of Graham McNeill I've ever come across. The descriptions of the world rise above and beyond anything one normally finds in Black Library.
It's not the story as such that I'm impressed with (it's good enough), but the handling of language.
I rarely expect much in the way of flowing, beautiful writing with Black Library, of words making simple events elevate to a higher level, but Angel Exterminatus was clearly an inspired piece of work much of the time.
Never have I had to stop reading Warhammer novels in order to take notes and copy down fine turns of phrase as often as when I read that book.
It was almost as enjoyable and recommendable as reading 40k novels by Matthew Farrer and Ian Watson's Space Marine (1993), and damn me if the writing in Angel Exterminatus didn't flow better and was imbued with more inspired vision than those stellar works much of the time.
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2022/03/19 15:34:32
Subject: Favorite book / author from the Horus Heresy ?
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Inquisitorial Keeper of the Xenobanks
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Karak Norn Clansman wrote:I have only read a few books so far, but I was deeply surprised with the quality of Angel Exterminatus. Easily the best work of Graham McNeill I've ever come across. The descriptions of the world rise above and beyond anything one normally finds in Black Library.
It's not the story as such that I'm impressed with (it's good enough), but the handling of language.
I rarely expect much in the way of flowing, beautiful writing with Black Library, of words making simple events elevate to a higher level, but Angel Exterminatus was clearly an inspired piece of work much of the time.
Never have I had to stop reading Warhammer novels in order to take notes and copy down fine turns of phrase as often as when I read that book.
It was almost as enjoyable and recommendable as reading 40k novels by Matthew Farrer and Ian Watson's Space Marine (1993), and damn me if the writing in Angel Exterminatus didn't flow better and was imbued with more inspired vision than those stellar works much of the time.
Reading that, I'm actually a bit sad that some may be lost in translation
Translating is betraying. Maybe one day I'll read it in English ...
I particularly enjoyed the beginning of Prospero Burns, the Fenris part, with the crude and grim description of the battle, it sounded so real, so realistic. Then...there was the rest of the novel.
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