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Livermore, Ca

Can you reroll the mortal wounds rolled for smite/c'tan powers, etc.... using the command reroll stratagem?
   
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No. The Command Reroll specifies what rolls it is allowed for. While this does include the "damage" roll, or a "psychic test", it does not include "number of mortal wounds caused by any source".

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I would argue no RAW.

Closest valid category of roll would be 'damage roll'. However, there is no logical link that would establish "roll to determine how many mortal wounds suffered" = "damage roll".

We know that 'damage roll' refers to the variable D characteristic (i.e. 1d3), and that mortal wounds incur 1 damage per, but what we don't know explicitly is whether the d3 in mortal wounds are counted as a 'damage roll' for the purpose of command reroll stratagem.

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COMMAND RE-ROLL
Use this Stratagem after you have made a hit roll, a wound roll, a damage roll, a saving throw, an Advance roll, a charge roll, a Psychic test, a Deny the Witch test or you have rolled the dice to determine the number of attacks made by a weapon. Re-roll that roll, test or saving throw.

No, you cannot reroll a MW roll, because its not a damage roll. A damage roll is defined on pg. 365 :

When determining a random damage characteristic, the dice roll is called a damage roll.


The damage characteristic is defined on pg. 202 :

7. WEAPONS
Weapons are described with the following characteristics:
.
.
.
Damage (D): The amount of damage inflicted by a successful wound.

If your weapon has a random damage characteristic which does MW (i dont know if there are any), you could reroll that.

   
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There aren’t any.

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 p5freak wrote:
COMMAND RE-ROLL
Use this Stratagem after you have made a hit roll, a wound roll, a damage roll, a saving throw, an Advance roll, a charge roll, a Psychic test, a Deny the Witch test or you have rolled the dice to determine the number of attacks made by a weapon. Re-roll that roll, test or saving throw.

No, you cannot reroll a MW roll, because its not a damage roll. A damage roll is defined on pg. 365 :

When determining a random damage characteristic, the dice roll is called a damage roll.


The damage characteristic is defined on pg. 202 :

7. WEAPONS
Weapons are described with the following characteristics:
.
.
.
Damage (D): The amount of damage inflicted by a successful wound.

If your weapon has a random damage characteristic which does MW (i dont know if there are any), you could reroll that.



Precision Blows Succubus? Though I don’t think any of her melee weapons have random damage, if one did that would apply.
   
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Lord Zarkov wrote:
 p5freak wrote:
COMMAND RE-ROLL
Use this Stratagem after you have made a hit roll, a wound roll, a damage roll, a saving throw, an Advance roll, a charge roll, a Psychic test, a Deny the Witch test or you have rolled the dice to determine the number of attacks made by a weapon. Re-roll that roll, test or saving throw.

No, you cannot reroll a MW roll, because its not a damage roll. A damage roll is defined on pg. 365 :

When determining a random damage characteristic, the dice roll is called a damage roll.


The damage characteristic is defined on pg. 202 :

7. WEAPONS
Weapons are described with the following characteristics:
.
.
.
Damage (D): The amount of damage inflicted by a successful wound.

If your weapon has a random damage characteristic which does MW (i dont know if there are any), you could reroll that.



Precision Blows Succubus? Though I don’t think any of her melee weapons have random damage, if one did that would apply.


So hers actually trigger off the Hit roll and none of her weapons have a variable damage characteristic (they're always 1, 2 or 3 damage).
   
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Livermore, Ca

I brought this up because my opponent had a C'tan do one of its powers that does d6 mortal wounds. he rolled a 1, and was going to reroll that and I asked him was that an ability or a damage roll. Glad I did... could have been a 5 or a 6 instead and my flyer would have gone down, as it was, that flyer lived the rest of the battle.
   
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Could've just been edition lag as in 8th ed, command reroll could be used for ANY roll.
   
 
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