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I'll post it. I love Gundam XD

And it's not a bad time for a thread on it, given that we're a week away from the release of Mobile Suit Gundam Hathaway, the first in a movie trilogy adaptation of the novel Hathaway's Flash.







The film trilogy is slated to be the start of the UC100 project, an announced series of works set after UC 100 in the Universal Century Timeline. Two years ago at the 40th Anniversary event, we were also confirmed a wide range of projects were in development, including new entries/sequels to Gundam SEED, Reconguista in G, Gundam 00, and Iron Blooded Orphans. Rumors still keep going around that Sunrise and Bandai are plotting a complete remake of the original Mobile Suit Gundam.

Hathaway will probably hit GundamInfo a month or so after it's release next Friday for a week or so, enabling those in the west to view it! Bandai has taken a rather novel approach to the issue faced by anime releases in the west and has for the past few years cycled content in and out of their YouTube channel. Currently it hosts Gundam Wing, Gundam Seed Remastered, Build Fighters, Build Fighters Try, and Build Divers and Build Divers Re:Rise, plus the ongoing SD Gundam series.

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Hey there
i have been a fan of universal century gundam since the 1980s(and have the model and figure collection to prove it) i recently re-watched the entire timeline in chronological order from "the origin" series up through "unicorn".

I am not a fan of any of the alt universe series as i prefer Tomino's original break from the super hero robot shows of the 70s with his dark utilitarian war story setting.

I am looking forward to hathaway's flash in animation form, even though i hated his character in chars counter attack, (unfortunately my favorite gundam character of all time dies in 0083 stardust memory, not that should surprise anybody).

I am kind of sad they retconned giagear out of the UC timeline. i have many of the old newtype magazines from when the novel was being serialized and i loved the mech designs.






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 aphyon wrote:
I am looking forward to hathaway's flash in animation form, even though i hated his character in chars counter attack, (unfortunately my favorite gundam character of all time dies in 0083 stardust memory, not that should surprise anybody).


I think a lot of us didn't like Hathaway in CCA. His plot was a complete third wheel. I think Hathaway's Flash though took him and makes something intriguing from that wheel and I usually see people approve of him more from the book than the CCA movie.

I am kind of sad they retconned giagear out of the UC timeline. i have many of the old newtype magazines from when the novel was being serialized and i loved the mech designs.


I mean, they insist Victory Gundam isn't an adaptation of Gia Gear, but you can totally see that Victory Gundam started out as an adaptation of Gia Gear, so in a way it's kind of there in spirit even if it got sidetracked by Tomino trying to kill off the franchise by throwing bikini soldiers with bazookas at the main character to sexually disturb him XD Victory Gundam was weird, I've honestly struggled to ever take it seriously. I think bits of it also found their way into Gundam Unicorn though you have to squint to really see them.

On the other hand, I feel like you can also squint and kind of see that attitudes about the franchise shifted after Victory and G Gundam. For once, a major media company actually realized that too much executive interference can kill something, and Gundam I think has managed to endure and keep up a consistent quality because the people making it have kept that in mind.

Even the maligned Gundam AGE probably would have been financially successful and well received had it not had Gundam in the title. I didn't like it either, but in retrospect it wasn't 'that bad' it just wasn't up to the standards I think fans have for the franchise. Hopefully the interference mucking up the second season of IBO helped reteach that lesson. I love IBO but IBO definitely suffered from scuffles in the drawing room in the second season.

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On the other hand, I feel like you can also squint and kind of see that attitudes about the franchise shifted after Victory and G Gundam. For once, a major media company actually realized that too much executive interference can kill something, and Gundam I think has managed to endure and keep up a consistent quality because the people making it have kept that in mind.


I think that is really born out by the animators that grew up watching the original gundam series (especially Zeta) that have gone back and constantly re-visited the original timeline.

The 0080 side story really set the standard that became to modern "look" of the universe. most of the really good series are in fact just side stories outside the main character arcs (the origin, Z,ZZ,CCA,unicorn)

0080, 0083, 08th MS team, thunderbolt and the MS igloo series being some of the best(and darkest) the show has ever looked.






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I'd agree. Like, I don't hate the main UC continuity. I rather liked Unicorn, but I've generally been the opposite of you and liked the Alt universes more than the original continuity. But 0080 and 08th MS Team and especially Thunderbolt (at least its first arc, everything after that drags a bit) are amazingly well done in my eyes. I just did a rewatch of 0080 a couple weeks ago and its just such a good bit for how short it is.

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Well i am honestly not the target audience for the ALT universe shows, i am not a fighting game fan so G never was my thing, Wing was pretty boy super hero robot fodder to draw in more female fans etc...


Like any other IP with a rich and detailed back story (40K, battletech, star wars etc..) the story is a major part of the draw that got and kept my interest.





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Do any of you have a good primer source for the Universal Century? I have had a passing interest in Gundamn, but I have no idea what is canon to UC and what isn't.

I really just need a place to grab onto to understand the basics of the setting.

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Here is a brief overview of the timeline, including a list of all related released video media-

https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/Universal_Century

If you need something more specific just ask.







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I tend to prefer the alt timelines, but that's mostly because I like self contained anime more in general. The UC timeline is generally the best thought out of the bunch though, though personally I don't feel like any of its sequels have felt as well realized as the original series.
   
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Well, the Hathaway movie looks great.

So the implication is that it'll be free to view on youtube?

My knowledge of Gundam is near-nil, but I've been enjoying building some of the kits with my son and we've watched a few episodes of Gundam Wing.

I don't have alot of interest in the classic hero Gundam suits, but I really like the mass production troops and the bad guys that have a more military (slightly battletech) aesthetic. Leo, Zaku, Jesta, Ground types, etc.

My son has built a few with me and he likes the Gundam action figures well enough to save his $5 a week allowance (with some extra work for $ too) for them.

We just assembled the Z'Gok last night. Quick clean build with sort of an Exo-Squad-meets-diving-suit vibe.

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 Eilif wrote:
Well, the Hathaway movie looks great.

So the implication is that it'll be free to view on youtube?

My knowledge of Gundam is near-nil, but I've been enjoying building some of the kits with my son and we've watched a few episodes of Gundam Wing.

I don't have alot of interest in the classic hero Gundam suits, but I really like the mass production troops and the bad guys that have a more military (slightly battletech) aesthetic. Leo, Zaku, Jesta, Ground types, etc.

My son has built a few with me and he likes the Gundam action figures well enough to save his $5 a week allowance (with some extra work for $ too) for them.

We just assembled the Z'Gok last night. Quick clean build with sort of an Exo-Squad-meets-diving-suit vibe.


Gundam was actually designed to break from the hero robot shows of the late 70s to be a hard gritty war story where the mechs were military equipment.

So i can understand your point if you have only watched gundam wing. that alt universe story turns the gundams into the hero robots the show was trying to avoid. as the gundam prototype(named after the gundarium alloy it was made from) is just a test unit with all the best and most advanced electronics aswell as the most advanced armor systems to later be used on mass production model units like GMs(General Model) or later jegans that replaced them.

Here is a quick clip from the MS igloo series of short stories set during the one year war in the original timeline.




I also recomend for any anime watcher the fan run and supported streaming site-otaku-streamers.

https://otaku-streamers.com/anime/

It is free to join but requires you to make an account to keep out spam bots. and they have every gundam series original timeline and alternate universes in their enormous catalog(most of which has never been released outside japan).








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 Easy E wrote:
Do any of you have a good primer source for the Universal Century? I have had a passing interest in Gundamn, but I have no idea what is canon to UC and what isn't.

I really just need a place to grab onto to understand the basics of the setting.


I wrote up a guide to the various timelines and which shows belong to which over on SpaceBattles. Copy Paste I tried to put in spoiler boxes but it's not cooperating so here it is as a long ass quote;

The First Rule of Gundam Club

You will watch Mobile Suit Gundam, also known as Mobile Suit Gundam 0079 first. Now obviously a lot of people have probably seen some of the more modern Gundams and not seen this one. That's fine, but this series started it all. Every Gundam features Gundams. Every series features masked rivals. Most series mix hard sci-fi robots with humanity evolving supernatural powers. You need to watch it if you want to continue in Gundam Club. There are rumors swirling that Sunrise intends to fully remake Gundam 0079, with modern animation, new voice work, and a revamped story. If you want to wait to see if that comes to be you can, but honestly the original anime series has held up amazingly well given it's age.

Now go watch it *prepares beam saber*.

The Second Rule of Gundam Club

The hardest thing to grasp in Gundam, are the timelines. While Gundam 0079 spawned a massive line of series, most Gundam series' are indpendent timelines with no relation to it. They carry on its story, themes, and motif but they're not sequels and you can honestly watch them in any order and be fine. I will give as full a list of these timelines as I can below. I have these separated by timeline and will strictly list the series that are most important for that timeline and I list them in my suggested watch order. Some series I nest under another. You can watch those after seeing the series they're under, or later if you want. This is mostly for the Universal Century, which has a lot of side stories, some of which are the best in the entire franchise.

Universal Century

Spoiler:

Mobile Suit Gundam (aka Gundam 0079)
Mobile Suit Gundam: 8th MS Team
Mobile Suit Gundam: War in the Pocket
Mobile Suit Gundam: Gundam Thunderbolt
Mobile Suit Gundam: Stardust Memory
Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam
Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ
Mobile Suit Gundam: Char's Counterattack
Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin
Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn (aka RE:0097)
Mobile Suit Gundam Twilight AXIS
Mobile Suit Gundam NT (Gundam Narrative)
Mobile Suit Victory Gundam (brace yourself, this one is depressing)

This is the biggest timeline in the franchise, and probably the hardest to get through. It's got prequels, sequels, and side stories all over. While the above is my suggested view order, there are others you can find on the internet. You could watch these in chronological order if you wanted, in which case simply watch The Origin first (I'd still watch Gundam 0079 before it). The rest of it basically is in chronological order. As an additional warning, Victory Gundam is widely seen as the most depressing Gundam series of all time (I'd debate that, but it is the series' standing reputation). It's a good series. It's worth watching. Just brace yourself.

There are two other films in this timeline, Mobile Suit Gundam F91 and G-Saviour, but honestly both were poorly recieved at the time of their release, they're not good, and Sunrise ignores they ever happened. You might be able to find F91. I think G-Saviour might have honestly gotten the E.T. video game treatment.


Future Century

Spoiler:

Mobile Fighter G Gundam

This was the first of the alternate Gundam Timelines, created because the UC was becoming too big and Sunrise wanted to keep Gundam accessible to new audiences. G Gundam wasn't well recieved when it first aired, but today is kind of a legend in the fandom for tale of how it came to be (it's quite the story) and the utter ridiculousness of the series. The pilots have horses who have Gundams that their Gundams can ride! Horse Gundams I gak you not. It's worth watching, but don't expect it to be like other entries in the franchise.


After Colony

Spoiler:


Mobile Suit Gundam Wing (aka New Mobile Report Gundam Wing)
New Mobile Report Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz
New Mobile Report Gundam Wing: Frozen Teardrop

This is the entry that exposed an entire generation of western fans to Gundam. It aired on Toonami and recieved massive acclaim as a result. It was less popular in Japan, but in the US is effectively a sacred cow for Mecha fans. It's a dense series, both in terms of narrative and theme. Endless Waltz is the film sequel to the anime series, and Frozen Teardrop is a manga series that takes place well after the movie. It's one of the only manga adaptations that can be easily obtained outside Japan, but I warn you it's... not bad but it's very different.


After War

Spoiler:


After War Gundam X

Kind of the forgotten step child of the Gundam family. The series wasn't bad, but it got hit by negative fan reactions at the time. Longstanding fans wanted a return to the Universal Century, and Gundam X suffered in ratings as a result. The series was canceled and quickly wrapped up. These days it's a bit more warmly regarded.


Cosmic Era

Spoiler:


Mobile Suit Gundam SEED
Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Destiny
Mobile Suit Gundam SEED C.E. 73: STARGAZER

The Cosmic era is fundamentally, a retelling of the Universal Century. Gundam SEED pretty popular today, but like the After War timeline, it suffered during release from angry fans. However, it succeeded by also bringing in a whole new generation to franchise. It's even been called a major reconstruction of the Real Robot genre after Neon Genesis Evangelion deconstructed many of the tropes and themes of mecha anime. I never hated it myself. It's a great series and recently got an HD remake from Sunrise!

SEED Destiny not so much. The main characters of SEED return, but most of their stories get shat on and flanderized (not my words per se), the new characters are varying degrees of pathetic and exceptionally annoying (also not my words per se), and the plot itself is seen as a very weak rehash of Zeta Gundam. The negative reactions to SEED Destiny effectively killed the inital lofty ambitions Sunrise had of creating a new Universal Century in the Cosmic era. I'd still watch it though, cause it's honestly not that bad, but it's definitely one of the weakest entries in the franchise.

STARGAZER is a barely comprehensible film sequel to SEED and SEED Destiny. It's okay, but it's going to confuse you at times. It's a choppy movie. There are side stories from both SEED and SEED Destiny published with Astray at the end of the title. These are optional but pretty good and can be obtained in the west.


Anno Domini

Spoiler:


Mobile Suit Gundam OO
Mobile Suit Gundam OO -A wakening of the Trailblazer-

The first Gundam series to take place in the "real world." Gundam OO is often compared to Gundam Wing given their similarities, but imo this is the best Gundam series ever made, with a wonderful and powerful story, great setting and characters, and maybe the loftiest themes and ideas to ever appear in the franchise. It's also the one that is most heavily referenced in Trailblazer, so I'd watch highly recommend seeing it if you haven't. A wakening of the Trailblazer is the film sequel to the 2 season anime. It's generally not as popular, but I enjoyed it for what it tried to do.


Advanced Generation

Spoiler:


Mobile Suit Gundam AGE
Mobile Suit Gundam AGE: Memory of Eden

This is maybe today, the most hated Gundam series. It wasn't that bad imo, and it was very ambitious in trying to tell a 100 year story across 3 generations of Gundam pilots, but it's animation quality was contentious. Many people thought it was too childish for a Gundam series, and the final arc was seen as very weak compared to the first and second. Memory of Eden is a retelling of the middle sections of AGE but it features a lot of new scenes and better elaborates on some of the characters, so if you like AGE then it's worth watching Memories of Eden.


Post Disaster

Spoiler:


Mobile Suit Gundam IRON-BLOODED ORPHANS

The most recent mainline series, and arguably the most popular and beloved since OO. Especially in the west, this series is almost as popular as Gundam Wing was back when it first appeared in the 90s. It deserves the recognition to. IBO is Gundam deconstructing itself without betraying its purpose and vision. Artistically I consider it to be the best series in the franchise. However, I'd also consider it to be the most depressing series in the franchise, even beating out Victory Gundam. The ending puts the bitter in bitter sweet, and the series fully embraces Post-Modernism as a world view which I think makes it difficult to understand or enjoy for some people.

It's still fantastic. Watch it. It nothing else it features Barbatos, one of the coolest Gundam to ever grace our screens.


Again you can watch these timelines in any order. They are all Gundam, but stories don't carry over across timelines... well until you get to Rule 3 anyway.

The Third Rule of Gundam Club

You will watch Mobile Suit ∀ Gundam (also called Turn A Gundam or For All Gundam), Reconguista in G (also called G-RECO), and Gundam Build last. Mostly because they're hard to appreciated without watching most of everything else.

Correct Century

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∀ Gundam (Turn A Gundam or For All Gundam)

Turn A is a trip. No seriously, Turn A will feth with your head a little bit. Essentially, the Correct Century is the end result of all Gundam Timelines. They all become Turn A and Turn A is how they all end. Turn A was conceived in the late nineties as a way to combine the entire franchise into a single metaverse. Whether that is through multiple parralel histories or a single massive timeline where each individual timeline leads to the next is... baffling as feth for fans, and unclear in terms of word of god. We've gotten conflicting variations over what exactly Turn A is supposed to represent for Gundam as a franchise.

But it's one hell of a good series. It was polarizing when it released 20 years ago, but today is regarded as one of the best entries in the Franchise for it's distinct desings, art, and story. It stands alone perfectly well too, even if you've never seen any other Gundams. It's just that it's harder to fully appreciate it before watching a lot of other Gundams, namely the series from the 90s (G Gundam, Gundam X, and Gundam Wing). As such my advice is watching it last, or near last.


Regild Century

Spoiler:


Gundam Reconguista in G (G-RECO)

This series is interesting. It takes place in the same timline as Turn A, 500 years later. It's animated by the same guy who did Eureka Seven, and the animations are beautiful. It's got this watercolor feel to it from start to finish, with great animations all around and beautiful music. Unfortunately, it is arguably the worst Gundam series ever made, or at least, the worst of the last 20 years. Not necessarily because it's bad, but because the series takes after Turn A, is kind of trippy, and isn't as good. Many fans decried it as Gundam in name only, and it is quite a bit different outside of the obvious. Is it worth watching? Honestly I'd watch it to see the animation and nothing else. It really is crack for the eyes. Good luck making any sense of the nonsensical characters and the story around them though.

G-RECO's second season was cancelled and never produced, and for a long time it felt like it was going to go the way of F91 and G-Saviour, forgotten and ignored by Sunrise. Of course, then the title Gundam got featured in one of the four 40th Anniversary Posters, and it was announced that future works for the Regild Century were planned which actually sparked some enthusiasm because while long time Gundam fans didn't like the series, a lot of people unfamiliar with Gundam did and have been wanting a sequel for a long time.


Our Century

Spoiler:


Gundam Build Fighters
Gundam Build Fighters Try
Gundam Build Divers
Gundam Build Divers Re:RISE

You know those animes about people who take a particular children's card game or hobby, and blow it up into the most important thing ever? Well this is that, but for Gunpla. In these series', Gundam is serious business and everyone loves it even to the point of entire sports and games taking over culture!

There are basically two timelines in this "timeline" cause it's not really a proper timeline.

Gundam Build Fighters was the first, and it was a huge hit for it's light hearted tone, themes of freindship, and love of all things Gundam! Build Fighters Try is the direct sequel.

Gundam Build Divers is the "video game" version, where the most popular game in the world is an MMO about Gundam and people can dive into it VR style. It's not as good, but it's still good even with its more kiddy tone. Re:RISE is the series' direct sequel.

And they're freaking amazing! Really you could watch these at any time, it's just they're they're filled to the brim with references galor, and you'll miss most of them without watching lots of Gundam. It even features kit bashed gundams and reimagined versions of popular mobile suits throughout the franchise, all going head to head in battles of "toys are serious business."


The Fourth Rule of Gundam Club

There's so much more stuff. Seriously, there's gak tons of it. I haven't even touched SD Gundam, which basically might as well be its own franchise honestly. There's mangas, books, games, and light novels galore. I can't feasibly list all of them, and a lot of them only exist in Japan anyway. You'd have to import them to legally experience their content, but at this stage if you've followed the three prior rules that is something you can do if you want. There is no need for a read/watch/play order. If you've gotten this far then you're fully prepared to grasp everything else without any hand holding.

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Sieg Zeon, Austrailia deserved it. It had a colony drop written all over it.


I mean.... did you see how Australia was just sitting there out in the ocean like that!

@Hats- Thanks for the list. I do not expect I will even get through the UC timeline. However, I did manage to catch some of 0079, so I think I will just start there.

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start with the origin that is actually the back story starting point that leads up to the one year war. it is also only 6 episodes so it won't be overwhelming







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The original series has the worst theme song in the world lol. It's so bad.


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 Lance845 wrote:
The original series has the worst theme song in the world lol. It's so bad.



Well considering the focus is on char i think maybe they were trying to give it the chars counter attack feel(i think it is a remake of the ending song). but yeah nowhere nears as good as the themes for 0083, or unicorn as examples for UC timeline openings

CCA ending




0083 OP



unicorn/0096 OP

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The trailers look ok to me as someone who doesn't really know any of the gundam story.

Ive seen Wing+Endless Waltz and Seed+Seed Destiny a long time ago. I liked Wing and thought Seed was kinda gak, especially Seed Destiny where it losts my interest with annoying characters.
   
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 Dropbear Victim wrote:
The trailers look ok to me as someone who doesn't really know any of the gundam story.

Ive seen Wing+Endless Waltz and Seed+Seed Destiny a long time ago. I liked Wing and thought Seed was kinda gak, especially Seed Destiny where it losts my interest with annoying characters.


Understandable given your rather short exposure to the alternate universe shows.


The UC timeline tends to be a bit darker and hard/dirty.

I mean i already know the end of the story with hathaway and what his own father is forced to do to him. Bright noah has almost as tragic a story as most other characters. the joke about the UC timeline was that Tomino introduces us to deep well fleshed out characters with rich backstories...and then kills them





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I just wish they would get more Gundam shows up on the streaming services. There are so many shows on my watchlist that I really don't want to pirate, especially because I do most of my watching at work, and don't want to get fired for putting viruses on the computer.
   
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 aphyon wrote:
 Dropbear Victim wrote:
The trailers look ok to me as someone who doesn't really know any of the gundam story.

Ive seen Wing+Endless Waltz and Seed+Seed Destiny a long time ago. I liked Wing and thought Seed was kinda gak, especially Seed Destiny where it losts my interest with annoying characters.


Understandable given your rather short exposure to the alternate universe shows.


The UC timeline tends to be a bit darker and hard/dirty.

I mean i already know the end of the story with hathaway and what his own father is forced to do to him. Bright noah has almost as tragic a story as most other characters. the joke about the UC timeline was that Tomino introduces us to deep well fleshed out characters with rich backstories...and then kills them


Except War in the Pocket, he didn't do that one.
   
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balmong7 wrote:I just wish they would get more Gundam shows up on the streaming services. There are so many shows on my watchlist that I really don't want to pirate, especially because I do most of my watching at work, and don't want to get fired for putting viruses on the computer.



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 aphyon wrote:
 Dropbear Victim wrote:
The trailers look ok to me as someone who doesn't really know any of the gundam story.

Ive seen Wing+Endless Waltz and Seed+Seed Destiny a long time ago. I liked Wing and thought Seed was kinda gak, especially Seed Destiny where it losts my interest with annoying characters.


Understandable given your rather short exposure to the alternate universe shows.


The UC timeline tends to be a bit darker and hard/dirty.

I mean i already know the end of the story with hathaway and what his own father is forced to do to him. Bright noah has almost as tragic a story as most other characters. the joke about the UC timeline was that Tomino introduces us to deep well fleshed out characters with rich backstories...and then kills them


Except War in the Pocket, he didn't do that one.


No but the animators that followed tomino with the side stories keep the spirit of the setting......the entire cyclops team dies, chistina nearly dies and al is left suffering emotional trauma.





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balmong7 wrote:
I just wish they would get more Gundam shows up on the streaming services. There are so many shows on my watchlist that I really don't want to pirate, especially because I do most of my watching at work, and don't want to get fired for putting viruses on the computer.


Most of the main shows are somewhere. The annoying thing is that they're not all on the same service/source.

Last I checked;

Netflix has Iron Blooded Orphans and Gundam Unicorn.
Hulu has Gundam The Origin, Gundam Wing, Gundam Seed, Gundam Seed Destiny, Gundam 00, 8th MS Team, and Iron Blooded Orphans
GundamInfo has Gundam Wing, Gundam Seed, Gundam Seed Destiny the Build series, SD Gundam (Gundam Info cycles content every 2-3 months)
Crunchy Roll has Gundam 0079, G Gundam, Gundam Seed, Gundam Seed Destiny, and Gundam 00

The only shows that are really hard to find through official channels are the OVAs and the series from the 80s.

Sunrise seems to have recognized this is an issue and it's costing them money (most of the industry has) but is being very slow in addressing it. Unofficially speaking, Victory Gundam, Gundam X, Turn A Gundam, Zeta Gundam, ZZ Gundam, Thunderbolt, War in the Pocket, Stardust Memory, and a few others can be found on YouTube and I bring them up there only because some of those have been up there for over a decade and the shows aren't available any other way but extremely expensive second hand market for ancient DVD sets or expensive (overpriced as feth too) imports.

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You'd think Z would have something out right now.
   
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GundamInfo was hosting the New Translation compilation films a year or so ago?

   
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I watched F91 when they had the movie up on Gundam.Info during the pandemic. That movie is a bit of an underrated gem in my opinion. It has serious problems with pacing, especially towards the end of the second act when it feels like entire plotlines got cut out and you aren't really sure why the final battle is happening as a result. But I really enjoyed it otherwise. Am I mistaken in thinking that there is no current anime adaptation of any of the manga that followed up on that movie and its section of the UC timeline?
   
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balmong7 wrote:
I watched F91 when they had the movie up on Gundam.Info during the pandemic. That movie is a bit of an underrated gem in my opinion. It has serious problems with pacing, especially towards the end of the second act when it feels like entire plotlines got cut out and you aren't really sure why the final battle is happening as a result. But I really enjoyed it otherwise. Am I mistaken in thinking that there is no current anime adaptation of any of the manga that followed up on that movie and its section of the UC timeline?


F91 is an oddball. It is one if not the farthest out in the UC timeline and is one of the few things to be followed by anything. Part of the reason is just the mess that occurred during production. The movie itself is the reason why Bandai takes a far lighter hand on things and allows the Sunrise team a lot more freedom as it was the interruption from Bandai over models that cause the various rewrites and different scripts to be created. As well the reason why instead of a TV show, it became a highly condensed movie.

UC timeline's newer direction seems more focused on telling side stories and moving linearly with the timeline now, nothing too far out that it'd break chronological order. OYW and the resulting Cold War between the Federation and Zeon is a pretty perfect a spot to hatch stories, adding to its level of being iconic. F91 will probably get a remake of some kind to fix it, but will probably have to wait. Reports suggest a remake of the old series, more so done to bring the animation up to date. Expect them to put a lot of cash into that.
   
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F91 was clearly intended to be a series rather than a movie. It's got all the plot beats but most of them are just slammed together in the second act and pass by like it's an abridged series. Also I think it happens after Hathaway's Flash but before the events of Victory or Crossbone Gundam (the later by virtue of the film's character's being supporting cast).

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Yes, Between Unicorn and and F91 there is a huge gap in the timeline. Hathaway takes place in this gap. Victory takes place after F91 and then.... G Savior.
   
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We don't talk about G-Savior.

It's also worth noting that The Reguild Century and the Correct Century happen after the Universal Century. Exactly where the other alt-timelines fit in there is a confusing/contradictory question XD

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