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Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut





A little background:

A friend of mine who has no interest in miniatures at all asked me if I could recondition an old metal toy tractor for his John Deer themed bathroom.

Nerds come in all sizes.

As it happens Rustoleum actually makes a licensed official John Deer green spray paint, but it only comes in gloss. It's been years since I worked with oil paints, I'm looking for advice on how to resurface gloss paint without covering or discoloring it so I can do washes and such.

Anyone have any advice?

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2021/05/15 23:25:10


   
Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut




Best I can think is to hit it with a Satin clear after the JD Green. Satin gives SOME tooth but won't dull the finish that much. Satin will also allow washes to flow a little smoother than a matte varnish will.

You can always re-gloss it after you finish the washes/weathering etc.

Acrylics CAN be put over enamel paints but "tooth" is the problem unless it's a flat enamel. If you want zero issue I'd go with a matte varnish and make washes with oil paints. The oil wash will flow better than acrylic, even on a matte surface, and can be cleaned up easier than an acrylic if it runs where you don't want it to.
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut





What kind of paint is it? Is it a primer or is it designed to be a finished layer? I don’t know rustoleum products but it sounds like it’s designed for metal and to go outside and there fore design to be pretty non stick.

So even if you can paint on it I feel like you would only have to look at the paint and it will fall off. Therefore if you can get paint to stick another layer of clear varnish is probably required.

I don’t think the gloss factor is necessarily the problem because I use GSW gloss black as a primer for colour shift paints and it stick fine close that’s what it’s for. It more an issue of what it’s made from.

Good luck and let us know I have heard good things about rustoleum as a primer.
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut





I can say from first-hand experience that the Rustoleum primers are good, but even their matt sprays don't have much tooth and their satins are worthless as a base for miniature work.

They recently started making a line of chalkboard paint that I really wish had been on the market when I started my current Marine collection though. It's fantastic to paint on.

   
Made in ca
Painting Within the Lines






You can fix a toothless gloss finish by applying a layer of matte spray/varnish. This will maintain the colour, and give your paint something to stick to.
I do this all the time on bare plastic board game figures to give them a wash without losing the original colour and get the detail to pop. I haven’t had any problems since I started doing it almost a decade ago.

Once cured, just varnish again and you’re good to go.
   
Made in pl
Regular Dakkanaut





Recently I saw a transparent primer, I think it's quite good option if you want to use basic colour of material you'll be painting.
I think that gloss cover can give you an advantage with weathering, consider using oil paints, they love smooth surface.
   
 
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