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Does anyone run orks in both 40k and AoS? I currently have about 6000 pts of 40k orks and I've been wanting to get started in AoS. I'm wondering how much of a pro it is that I already have 40k orks and if you typically see any overlap between models. There's the obvious ones like the weirdnob shaman and the (future) warboss in mega armor that could easily work for both armies, but I'm moreso curious about troops/elites choices. Would I basically be starting an army from scratch? How similar are the playstyles? TBH, I don't know anything about AoS so i apologize if this is a stupid question.

I have seen people using ardboyz and brutes in both games as nobs/meganobs respectively. The tricky part is the AoS ones don't have guns. Other than that it is mainly about adding some 40k elements so they aren't strictly fantasy. Brutes can do it with some swapping of armor plates and doing a weapon swap for 40k choppas is a good move for both (just stay away from any mechanized chainaxe features).

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I have seen people using ardboyz and brutes in both games as nobs/meganobs respectively. The tricky part is the AoS ones don't have guns. Other than that it is mainly about adding some 40k elements so they aren't strictly fantasy. Brutes can do it with some swapping of armor plates and doing a weapon swap for 40k choppas is a good move for both (just stay away from any mechanized chainaxe features).

Not really. You can model your orks holding anything you like - it just doesn't do anything rules wise. So it's no big deal if the orks are all waving guns..... You could model them all holding CoS muskets & have the same non-effect.

Well. On that logic you can have empire swordmen　and　have them be 40k ig. Or space marines for that matter

AoS Orruks are separated into two (now three technically) groups, Savage Orruks and Ironjawz. The old WHFB style Greenskinz are gone having been relegated to Legends status. Using a bog standard 40k Ork army as proxies for Ironjawz or Savage Orruks would maybe be OK for a couple of games to learn the faction but only playing AoS with a 40k army wouldn't be widely accepted.
AoS models lend themselves well to 40k but the other way around? Not so much.

 Gert wrote:
AoS Orruks are separated into two (now three technically) groups, Savage Orruks and Ironjawz. The old WHFB style Greenskinz are gone having been relegated to Legends status. Using a bog standard 40k Ork army as proxies for Ironjawz or Savage Orruks would maybe be OK for a couple of games to learn the faction but only playing AoS with a 40k army wouldn't be widely accepted.
AoS models lend themselves well to 40k but the other way around? Not so much.

Aside from HQ choices, which orruks models have you seen used in 40k? I can see how the brutes mentioned previously could make good meganobz.

Pretty much all of the Ironjawz barring the Wyverns and big pigs, as well as the Savage Orruk units make excellent base units for Snakebites or even just less tech advanced groups of Orks.
Mike Brooks and Kierdale on Twitter have some pretty solid Snakebite conversions using AoS models.

The real issue is that the "normal" orcs got removed from AoS.

The old WHFB orcs and 40k orks were pretty similar in style, even with the tech difference. All you had to do was throw a shoota or a slugga (the orc melee weapons worked fine, though a few chainswords never went amiss) on and you went orc->ork. Glue a spare choppa or shield on instead of the gun and you could go ork->orc. Little details like bullets on strings could be painted as teef/loot, covered up, or shaved down if you were going the extra mile while downgrading the tech level or stuck on (someone you know has a million ammo belts, grenades, and/or marine pouches kicking around in a box) while moving things into the 40th millennium.

Orks don't make good Ironjaws (way too weedy) or Bone Splittas (they wear clothes) and the reverse is mostly true, too. Some BS to Ork conversions work, but you really have to be going hard for a specific theme to explain why your snakebites haven't adopted any sort of metalwork besides sluggas. Ironjaws get used as the base for mega-armor nobz and warbosses, but it takes a fair amount of work to make it believable. You'll want plenty of pistons, things that could be power plants, and tech gubbins to attach beyond just slapping a gun on or it will look like you grabbed the wrong bag while heading to the game.

Just plonking down 40k Orks isn't really going to work in AoS, though, outside of whatever policy your group has on proxies. You'll basically be buying a whole new army, despite both being green.

Honestly It's easier to 40K up some fantasy orks than it is to justify having some 40K orks in fantasy. I mean, you could do it easily if you had some heavily converted snakebites. But at that point they're probably AOS models anyway right?

New snagga squig riders would probably make for some nice gore-gruntas.

I mean, I use my massive collection of grots as gobbos in aos, because I've always hated the little garden gnome robes the fantasy goblins wear. I've got a lot of the old snotling/gnoblar/blood bowl snotlings mixed in with my grots because I love grot models that aren't even visibly trying to attack or fight, I just think it makes the unit really funny, so it looks less silly in aos.

Usually i run gobbos with guns as gobbo bowmen and gobbos with melee weapons or just...nothing in their hands as gobbos with melee weapons.

Thanks for all the ideas guys. Sounds like I would be starting from scratch for the most part.

 the_scotsman wrote:
I mean, I use my massive collection of grots as gobbos in aos, because I've always hated the little garden gnome robes the fantasy goblins wear. I've got a lot of the old snotling/gnoblar/blood bowl snotlings mixed in with my grots because I love grot models that aren't even visibly trying to attack or fight, I just think it makes the unit really funny, so it looks less silly in aos.

Usually i run gobbos with guns as gobbo bowmen and gobbos with melee weapons or just...nothing in their hands as gobbos with melee weapons.

What a wonderful idea. I could really lean more into my 40k grots this year with the long term plan of utilizing them in a gloomspite gitz army. I feel the same way about those robes as you do. How many gobbos do you typically see in a gloomspite list?

 the_scotsman wrote:
I mean, I use my massive collection of grots as gobbos in aos, because I've always hated the little garden gnome robes the fantasy goblins wear. I've got a lot of the old snotling/gnoblar/blood bowl snotlings mixed in with my grots because I love grot models that aren't even visibly trying to attack or fight, I just think it makes the unit really funny, so it looks less silly in aos.

Usually i run gobbos with guns as gobbo bowmen and gobbos with melee weapons or just...nothing in their hands as gobbos with melee weapons.

Very nice, that's how to do it.

Would gnoblars painted green pass as stabbas?

You would need to convert them somehow, because otherwise they are just gnoblars. Weapon swap to make them all have spears would do it.