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I can't find this one way or the other. Does a summoned daemon unit gain the <Legion> keyword after being summoned onto the board?

I know that it doesn't gain the legion trait but that doesn't mean that it isn't part of the legion. There are a lot of models/units that can be part of the Legion but still not have the Legion trait available to it (ie., contemptor dreadnaughts, land raiders, predators). The reason I ask is that it seems weird that a summoned unit of daemons would not be affected by the Locus of power of a greater possessed model. But, the locus requires both the <daemon> keyword and the <legion> key word to be effective.
   
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Nothing in the rules say the unit gains a <LEGION> keyword, so it would not.
   
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If you summon a daemon unit who doesnt have <legion> on its datasheet, then it doesnt have <legion>. If you summon a daemon unit who has <legion> on it, it still doesnt get a replacement keyword, because you do that when you include a unit in your army (which would be at the list building stage), summoned units however are added to your army during the game. But this is not clear, maybe GW means the same. Without the right replacement keyword a summoned daemon with <legion> wouldnt be able to receive buffs from another unit like a greater possessed.

<LEGION>
Chaos Space Marines belong to a Legion or Renegade Chapter. For simplicity we will refer to all of these as Legions, even though in truth Renegade Chapters have a different genesis.

Some datasheets specify what Legion the unit is from (e.g. Abaddon the Despoiler has the BLACK LEGION keyword, so is from the Black Legion). If a Heretic Astartes datasheet does not specify which Legion it is from, it will have the <LEGION> keyword. When you include such a unit in your army, you must nominate which Legion that unit is from. You then simply replace the <LEGION> keyword in every instance on that unit’s datasheet with the name of your chosen Legion.


However, even if a summoned daemon with <legion> gets a replacement keyword it still doesnt benefit from the legion trait, because summoned units never are part of a detachment. Only units which are part of detachments gain a legion trait.

LEGION TRAITS
Each of the Traitor Legions has been uniquely twisted by the Ruinous Powers, and has perfected its own methods of slaughter and destruction.

If your army is Battle-forged, all CHARACTER, INFANTRY, BIKER and HELBRUTE units in Chaos Space Marine Detachments gain a Legion Trait, so long as every unit in that Detachment is from the same Legion. The Legion Trait gained depends upon the Legion they are from, as shown in the Legion Traits table. For example, all such units in a NIGHT LORDS Detachment gain the Terror Tactics trait.


REINFORCEMENT UNITS
If a unit is ever added to a Battle-forged army during the battle, it is never considered to be part of a Detachment. This means that it never costs CPs to include them in your army but they will never benefit from any Detachment abilities.
   
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Any bracketed keyword on a models data sheet must be replaced. That is not optional and happens when the unit is added to your army be that before or during a battle (see Keywords in the basic rules). So if you summon a daemon unit that has a bracket keyword, it must be replace with an actual keyword. That being said, such models never gain abilities that require the unit to be in a detachment since they are explicitly not part of any detachment.
   
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 alextroy wrote:
Any bracketed keyword on a models data sheet must be replaced. That is not optional and happens when the unit is added to your army be that before or during a battle (see Keywords in the basic rules). So if you summon a daemon unit that has a bracket keyword, it must be replace with an actual keyword. That being said, such models never gain abilities that require the unit to be in a detachment since they are explicitly not part of any detachment.


Right, the core rules indeed say that. You are right. Summoned <legion> daemons do get a replacement keyword, and can be buffed by others. But they dont get a legion trait, because only units in detachments gain legion traits, and summoned units arent part of a detachment.
   
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 p5freak wrote:
 alextroy wrote:
Any bracketed keyword on a models data sheet must be replaced. That is not optional and happens when the unit is added to your army be that before or during a battle (see Keywords in the basic rules). So if you summon a daemon unit that has a bracket keyword, it must be replace with an actual keyword. That being said, such models never gain abilities that require the unit to be in a detachment since they are explicitly not part of any detachment.


Right, the core rules indeed say that. You are right. Summoned <legion> daemons do get a replacement keyword, and can be buffed by others. But they dont get a legion trait, because only units in detachments gain legion traits, and summoned units arent part of a detachment.
Just like I said in my last sentence. No detachment abilities for summoned daemons, which includes legion traits should you be able to summon a legion daemon (I don't think such a unit exist).
   
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As has been mentioned, summoned Daemons do not gain the <legion> keyword of your army. However, to address the second part of your question, you’ll want to reread the Loci rules, because they do not require a <legion> Daemon unit. The Loci for each god simply wants a Daemon of the same god. So, if you summon a unit of Bloodletters and they are within range of a Skulltaker with a Loci, the Bloodletters will be affected by that Loci. They don’t need to be in the same detachment and they won’t “turn off” Loci’s or Legion traits in your detachments since they don’t join the detachment.

I’ll also mention that there are no summonable units that have the <legion> keyword. There are Heretic Astartes that have the Demonic ability, but they need the CHAOS and DAEMON faction keywords, which never appear alongside the <LEGION> keyword. Even the Daemon Prince data sheet in the CSM codex lost the DAEMON faction keyword for the <LEGION> one.
   
 
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