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We would like to tell you about our next project:

The Adventurers & Monsters plastic miniatures Edition
All full range of pre-assembled plastic injection miniatures. 108 miniatures x 70$.




28th September on Kickstarter
Here is the link to the pre-campaign to get notified once we launch:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/juegorama/the-adventurers-and-monsters-plastic-miniatures-edition

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Very nice, colour me intrigued.
Backing will depend on the size and if they are compatible with the ranges I use (Blacklist Games, Northstar, etc. GW-not so much anymore).

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 Garfield666 wrote:
Very nice, colour me intrigued.
Backing will depend on the size and if they are compatible with the ranges I use (Blacklist Games, Northstar, etc. GW-not so much anymore).

All miniatures will be 32mm scale, I think is the same to Blacklist miniatures. I'm not sure about the scale for the Northstar
   
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When you say plastic, you mean PVC, right?

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Let's see...

* Have you done plastic miniatures before? I see New York Crisis as one of your KS projects, but it's only at the PM stage.

* Glad to see a Spanish company producing plastic miniatures. Will the mini's be made in China, will it be this SioCast that's becoming popular, or something else? In any case, good to see a hobby company besides one in the UK or USA making inexpensive miniatures and expanding the hobby in other countries.

* Maybe include free PDFs of your previously released adventures and digital assets to increase funding. Also, of course, provide your company background to increase confidence in backing your KS.

* Make sure you have miniatures that are different than plastic miniatures that were already available in previous KS by other companies (eg. Blacklist Games, Archon, Reaper, not to mention WizKids). I'm guessing, though, that the miniatures are mostly based on your previously released resin sculpts? Pretty curious how you'll get past the undercuts if you do.


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 lord_blackfang wrote:
When you say plastic, you mean PVC, right?


Most of them are made of PVC, some is PVC and ABS, and some is ABS, depends on the design and dimension. ABS for a little parts like sword, lance...




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 ced1106 wrote:
Let's see...

* Have you done plastic miniatures before? I see New York Crisis as one of your KS projects, but it's only at the PM stage.

* Glad to see a Spanish company producing plastic miniatures. Will the mini's be made in China, will it be this SioCast that's becoming popular, or something else? In any case, good to see a hobby company besides one in the UK or USA making inexpensive miniatures and expanding the hobby in other countries.

* Maybe include free PDFs of your previously released adventures and digital assets to increase funding. Also, of course, provide your company background to increase confidence in backing your KS.

* Make sure you have miniatures that are different than plastic miniatures that were already available in previous KS by other companies (eg. Blacklist Games, Archon, Reaper, not to mention WizKids). I'm guessing, though, that the miniatures are mostly based on your previously released resin sculpts? Pretty curious how you'll get past the undercuts if you do.


Thanks for your comments and suggestions
We have a lot of experience with plastic resin miniatures (siocast) and mould experience for other industry.
Our first option to manufacture them is Longpackgames, due to its quality of plastic miniatures. Longpackgames manufactured stormsunders or fallen frontiers miniatures.
Siocast are popular now, but we prefeer a pre-assembled miniatures, we manufactured "The Path of the adventurers" in Eastar (only game, not the miniatures) is the same manufacturer for the Black list games, but I think Longpack will do a good job.
We have surprise in the Kickstarter campaign

Like a strength point Money-back guarantee If you get our "reward" and it doesn´t meet your expectations, you can send it back to us and we'll refund the value of your pledge (minus Kickstarter fees). for the first 30 days to received.
Like add-on:
Addon grey washed + dry brush available for our backers who do not want to paint the miniatures or have a very long waiting list to paint their minis.

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Good to know!

> Addon grey washed + dry brush available for our backers who do not want to paint the miniatures or have a very long waiting list to paint their minis.

Are you familiar with Dwarven Forge? Happens that the DF Gaming forum posters are interested in painted miniatures IIRC, You've done painted miniatures before in a previous KS, so they'll be interested!

http://forum.dwarvenforge.com/viewforum.php?f=22

EDIT: Started a thread on Dwarven Forge for you! http://forum.dwarvenforge.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=12370

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Crimson Scales and Wildspire Miniatures thread on Reaper! : https://forum.reapermini.com/index.php?/topic/103935-wildspire-miniatures-thread/ 
   
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Are the Adventurers going to be the same material as their original KS?
   
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I will definitely take a good look at this. I have a far too big addiction to buying piles and piles of minis.

   
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 ced1106 wrote:
Good to know!

> Addon grey washed + dry brush available for our backers who do not want to paint the miniatures or have a very long waiting list to paint their minis.

Are you familiar with Dwarven Forge? Happens that the DF Gaming forum posters are interested in painted miniatures IIRC, You've done painted miniatures before in a previous KS, so they'll be interested!

http://forum.dwarvenforge.com/viewforum.php?f=22

EDIT: Started a thread on Dwarven Forge for you! http://forum.dwarvenforge.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=12370

Thanks for starting a thread on DF
Yes we did painted miniatures for "The path of the adventurers" but the reward had 27 miniatures.
But the The Adventurers & Monsters plastic miniatures edition pledge will contain 108 miniatures + sg unlocked, the price for all miniatures painted will be very expensive , like for this motive we have preferred only add-on grey washed +dry brush with a price more low.
This is only a example, the half orc miniature will have a big axe




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JimmyWolf87 wrote:
Are the Adventurers going to be the same material as their original KS?

The Adventurers, our first Kickstarter will be manufactured with plastic resin (Siocast) but the new kickstarter campaign The Adventurers & Monsters plastic miniatures edition will be manufactured in plastic (PVC and ABS)


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28th September on Kickstarter
Here is the link to the pre-campaign to get notified once we launch:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/juegorama/the-adventurers-and-monsters-plastic-miniatures-edition

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We´ll also include Scenery add-on with pre-assembled miniatures

with 5 Elvish doors

and 5 medieval doors


28th September on Kickstarter
Here is the link to the pre-campaign to get notified once we launch:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/juegorama/the-adventurers-and-monsters-plastic-miniatures-edition
   
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Sorry not 28mm, I have to pass. Got my scale and going to stick with it.

Best wishes on your endeavour though, these look good.

I might be back for the monsters though. The monsters lion men and possibly some barbarians can afford to be big and still fit in with 28mm.

Frankly if you are going for a box of generic miniatures, and it appears you are 32mm is a bad idea. Yes it is best for painters for individual models but the hobby as a rule is geared towards 28mm. 32mm is great for stand alone games, especially miniatures board games, but 28mm is where it is at, if anything go smaller rather than bigger and embrace 28mm non heroic.

In this way you will fit in with historicals for your mooks, the vast majority of terrain sets including the newer impressive plastic kits from several manufacturers which are nearly always 28mm.
I don't know how invested you are in 32mm, maybe you are already there and the tooling is being done, if so, so long. But I promise you, you will not lose money catering to the majority.

But your Tarrax, leave him the size he is, or bigger.
BTW Tarasque (one r) is a public domain name, it is part of French folklore, you dont need to rename it.

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 Orlanth wrote:
Sorry not 28mm, I have to pass. Got my scale and going to stick with it.

Best wishes on your endeavour though, these look good.

I might be back for the monsters though. The monsters lion men and possibly some barbarians can afford to be big and still fit in with 28mm.

Frankly if you are going for a box of generic miniatures, and it appears you are 32mm is a bad idea. Yes it is best for painters for individual models but the hobby as a rule is geared towards 28mm. 32mm is great for stand alone games, especially miniatures board games, but 28mm is where it is at, if anything go smaller rather than bigger and embrace 28mm non heroic.

In this way you will fit in with historicals for your mooks, the vast majority of terrain sets including the newer impressive plastic kits from several manufacturers which are nearly always 28mm.
I don't know how invested you are in 32mm, maybe you are already there and the tooling is being done, if so, so long. But I promise you, you will not lose money catering to the majority.

But your Tarrax, leave him the size he is, or bigger.
BTW Tarasque (one r) is a public domain name, it is part of French folklore, you dont need to rename it.


Thanks for your comments and your opinion.
Yes, I know the myth of "La Tarasca" in Spanish also has an "R", but we liked the name of Tarrax as powerful
Scale is always something very relative between manufacturers.
For example our 32mm scale is the measure a standard human sized figure standing mostly upright will measure about 32 mm tall from eyes to toe.
For example in the last fantasy series , Black List wrote "What scale are the minis?
In the 28 mm scale, in-line with many other popular tabletop minis lines. It is important to note (to avoid confusion) that this does not mean that the miniatures will all be 28 mm tall. Generally, a standard human sized figure standing mostly upright will measure about 32 -34 mm tall from head to toe in standard 28 mm scale. "
So the scale of the fantasy series is very similar to my 32mm, since it is possibly 28mm heroic, it should also be noted that not all humans measure the same.
On the other hand, all our resin campaigns have been in 32mm and if we change to a smaller scale it would be a problem for our patron to return (there will be an addon for former patrons)
What we can do is adjust the scale only to humans to 30mm tall from eyes to toe, so that they are compatible with both 28mm and 32mm.
What is your opinion?

On the other hand, I include the pledge, so you can decide whether to enter the campaign or not


28th September on Kickstarter
Here is the link to the pre-campaign to get notified once we launch:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/juegorama/the-adventurers-and-monsters-plastic-miniatures-edition
   
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I thought the Spanish name was Tarasco, or is that the Italian?

Yes humans come in different sizes, which is why roided barbarians fit in with smaller scale miniatures, and you can have the odd single miniature which is slightly different scale. Uniform basing covers most problems.

Looking at what you have on offer I am impressed, would be more impressed if the mooks had more sculpt variety. It is certainly tempting and the price looks good, less good maybe depending on the plastic quality.

What I dont like, other than the copypaste monsters, is the overpackaging. I see a spaced out tray, and see the need for rather a lot of them Learn from other kickstarters, use baggies for miniatures. These are not a stand alone board game, but part of a miniature collection to add to, so they don't need a self contained box.

Let me explain how bad this can get.
I backed two Kickstarters recently with opposite opinions on packaging. Reaper Bones 5 had some boxes with bagged miniature in them, it was a well presented product and contained all it needed in a no fuss manner. They also sold other sets just in baggies, slightly less presentation but it did not matter much. Battletech Clan Invasion had everything inboxes of 4-6 9ndividual model, each not much larger than a 32mm infantry figure, in a plastic tray in a box. I bought a lot of both, however while the Bones 5 was compact Clan Invasion was not. My Bones 5 came in two boxes, one massive box filled with literally hundreds of miniatures, many of them very large, and a second box with a large warship about a metre long. My Clan Invasion came in three massive boxes, one contained some maps and was geniuinely big and diidnt waste a lot of space in packaging. It offset the Bones 5 warship in volume more or less. My mechs were in two massive boxes each about the size of my Bones 5.
When I decanted my Bones 5 from one box I had a full table including many big monsters and dragons. When I assembled my Battletech I covered about a quarter of the space from double the volume.


What you get from one Bones 4 core set, which is about twice the size of one of these:


The two mechs on the ends are about Ogre size, the three in the middle about human size.

An even more extreme example from the same size box.

Not Clan Invasion has very nice packaging, and maybe for retail it is what is wanted. But my shipping costs to transport a cubic metre of Chinese air wrapped in plastic and a few toys was crippling. And I do not know anyone who has not thrown away the Clan Invasion packaging, because despite the titles there is no actual theme to the contents, each mech gets added to the pot of miniature to paint and add to one of many different factions. I have no doubt that your Adventurers & Monsters will have a similar fate. generic is best generic works, but it also means they get added to a collection likely of several ranges and manufacturers and do not need special packing or an integral set.

When I had unpacked all the actual mechs fit in the two main game core set boxes like this one.

These boxes are similar to 'bookshelf' wargames.

Do what Reaper did, make a nice box for a set, but put a baggie in that filled with miniatures. You can cut down said box to a small fraction of what it otherwise would be and save your customers a heavy shipping cost.
Not to hate on Battletech too much, I love the game and really liked what I got in the Kickstarter, but it was ridiculously overpackaged. The packaging isn't cheap either.


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Nice sculpts. I've been backing bulk plastic generic fantasy since Bones I, so there's overlap -- I'll be up to 25 werewolves with this KS.

I prefer vacform over baggies, but I'll agree that baggies are more practical. If some mini's end up being used in Gloomhaven, while others not, I'll store those miniatures in the plano box with the other mini's for Gloomhaven.

Actually, speaking of Gloomhaven, for a future project, you could contact the publisher for permission to make mini's for the game.

Crimson Scales and Wildspire Miniatures thread on Reaper! : https://forum.reapermini.com/index.php?/topic/103935-wildspire-miniatures-thread/ 
   
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 Orlanth wrote:
I thought the Spanish name was Tarasco, or is that the Italian?

Yes humans come in different sizes, which is why roided barbarians fit in with smaller scale miniatures, and you can have the odd single miniature which is slightly different scale. Uniform basing covers most problems.

Looking at what you have on offer I am impressed, would be more impressed if the mooks had more sculpt variety. It is certainly tempting and the price looks good, less good maybe depending on the plastic quality.

What I dont like, other than the copypaste monsters, is the overpackaging. I see a spaced out tray, and see the need for rather a lot of them Learn from other kickstarters, use baggies for miniatures. These are not a stand alone board game, but part of a miniature collection to add to, so they don't need a self contained box.

Let me explain how bad this can get.
I backed two Kickstarters recently with opposite opinions on packaging. Reaper Bones 5 had some boxes with bagged miniature in them, it was a well presented product and contained all it needed in a no fuss manner. They also sold other sets just in baggies, slightly less presentation but it did not matter much. Battletech Clan Invasion had everything inboxes of 4-6 9ndividual model, each not much larger than a 32mm infantry figure, in a plastic tray in a box. I bought a lot of both, however while the Bones 5 was compact Clan Invasion was not. My Bones 5 came in two boxes, one massive box filled with literally hundreds of miniatures, many of them very large, and a second box with a large warship about a metre long. My Clan Invasion came in three massive boxes, one contained some maps and was geniuinely big and diidnt waste a lot of space in packaging. It offset the Bones 5 warship in volume more or less. My mechs were in two massive boxes each about the size of my Bones 5.
When I decanted my Bones 5 from one box I had a full table including many big monsters and dragons. When I assembled my Battletech I covered about a quarter of the space from double the volume.


What you get from one Bones 4 core set, which is about twice the size of one of these:


The two mechs on the ends are about Ogre size, the three in the middle about human size.

An even more extreme example from the same size box.

Not Clan Invasion has very nice packaging, and maybe for retail it is what is wanted. But my shipping costs to transport a cubic metre of Chinese air wrapped in plastic and a few toys was crippling. And I do not know anyone who has not thrown away the Clan Invasion packaging, because despite the titles there is no actual theme to the contents, each mech gets added to the pot of miniature to paint and add to one of many different factions. I have no doubt that your Adventurers & Monsters will have a similar fate. generic is best generic works, but it also means they get added to a collection likely of several ranges and manufacturers and do not need special packing or an integral set.

When I had unpacked all the actual mechs fit in the two main game core set boxes like this one.

These boxes are similar to 'bookshelf' wargames.

Do what Reaper did, make a nice box for a set, but put a baggie in that filled with miniatures. You can cut down said box to a small fraction of what it otherwise would be and save your customers a heavy shipping cost.
Not to hate on Battletech too much, I love the game and really liked what I got in the Kickstarter, but it was ridiculously overpackaged. The packaging isn't cheap either.


In Spanish "La Tarasca", in Italian I don't know, but it is a famous legend in the Mediterranean area.
we´re a little company, and I will prefeer more sculpts variety but the budget is the budget. I will choose Longpack because I think they has a good plastic quality. Fantasy series was manufactured in Easter company and I think Longpack will work fine or better.
Please you can check:
https://www.longpackgames.com/components-board-games/miniatures/
About the spaced out tray, it is our older plastic tray for the "The path of the adventurers" It will be designed when the Kickstarter finished. The idea will be 2 or 3 plastic tray for 108 miniatures.
The plastic tray helps the miniatures not to hit each other in the shipment and also helps that in the Chinese factory they do not make a mistake with the miniatures, because each footprint is unique for each miniature.
On the other hand, it helps to save them later, but I understand that everyone has their tastes.
I understand that Reaper does not put plastic tray, because his pledge contains many miniatures.
And well Battletech is more expensive the packaging than miniatures lol, by the way I love Battletech and mechwarrior.
I can assure you that we will make the most of the plastic trays


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 ced1106 wrote:
Nice sculpts. I've been backing bulk plastic generic fantasy since Bones I, so there's overlap -- I'll be up to 25 werewolves with this KS.

I prefer vacform over baggies, but I'll agree that baggies are more practical. If some mini's end up being used in Gloomhaven, while others not, I'll store those miniatures in the plano box with the other mini's for Gloomhaven.

Actually, speaking of Gloomhaven, for a future project, you could contact the publisher for permission to make mini's for the game.


oh, too many werewolves!
You will not believe it, I had thought the same for Gloomhaven, but the logical thing is that the author will do a Kickstarter campaign with miniatures , but I will propose it.
We will have a different miniature Early bird 72 hours and Stretch goals with different miniatures than the standard.
However, which miniatures would you like to appear in the campaign? Can you give me ideas

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The preview pics look very good and I surely will back this.
I for one, am happy if you *don't* just use plastic bags. Bent and broken figures are nothing to hope for.
Personnally I preffer plastic inlays where the minis just lie flat in - no clips to hold them in place. That way the might move a bit, but no paint comes of due to the scratching of the inlay material.
And regarding the size: you do you, just show us a few comparison pics once the KS launches. While I would like the minis to scale perfectly with all my figures, that is impossible as I already have many different manufacturers with different sizes. Not too big (GW+) would be great, but I fully understand you cannot downsize them to much, so they wouldn't match your previous works.
Go on and all the best to you!

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> You will not believe it, I had thought the same for Gloomhaven, but the logical thing is that the author will do a Kickstarter campaign with miniatures , but I will propose it.

Well, if, by author you mean the creator of Gloomhaven, he's said he won't make miniatures for the game. Understandable, as his interest seems to be game design and story, rather than art direction.

https://cephalofair.com/blogs/blog/lets-talk-miniatures


> I understand that Reaper does not put plastic tray, because his pledge contains many miniatures.

Oh -- Another thing I liked about Reaper was how they didn't assemble miniatures. Pre-assembled miniatures means more pain removing mold lines.


> The plastic tray helps the miniatures not to hit each other in the shipment and also helps that in the Chinese factory they do not make a mistake with the miniatures, because each footprint is unique for each miniature.

BTW, One excuse for tor the vac trays (: is to have include an RPG adventure or miniature wargame scenario that uses the miniatures. You could contact Ganesha Games (Song of Blade and Heroes) and ask if it's okay to add stats to your miniatures, and include some free Song of Blade and Heroes scenarios that use your miniatures.


> However, which miniatures would you like to appear in the campaign? Can you give me ideas

Well, I've managed to proxy every Gloomhaven miniature except (spoilers) Frost Demon, Night Demon and Sun Demon. : https://cephalofair.com/pages/gloomhaven-monster-spoilers

fwiw, D&D 5e Starter Set might also be worth making miniatures for, although the D&D boardgames (eg. Castle Ravenloft) has most miniatures used in the adventures:
https://www.reddit.com/r/dndnext/comments/4uvrq1/just_purchased_5e_starter_set_looking_for_full/
https://www.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/8giqr6/miniatures_set_for_starter_set/

fwiw, Here should be all the D&D mini's available in the D&D Game System boxed games. (The Dungeon Command games are OOP.)
https://ddadventuresystem.fandom.com/wiki/D%26D®_Adventure_System_Wiki

And then you could look at recent bulk generic fantasy miniature KS (eg. Blacklist Games Fantasy Series, Reaper Bones V, Next Level Miniatures) and avoid overlap. Good luck!

Crimson Scales and Wildspire Miniatures thread on Reaper! : https://forum.reapermini.com/index.php?/topic/103935-wildspire-miniatures-thread/ 
   
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 Garfield666 wrote:
The preview pics look very good and I surely will back this.
I for one, am happy if you *don't* just use plastic bags. Bent and broken figures are nothing to hope for.
Personnally I preffer plastic inlays where the minis just lie flat in - no clips to hold them in place. That way the might move a bit, but no paint comes of due to the scratching of the inlay material.
And regarding the size: you do you, just show us a few comparison pics once the KS launches. While I would like the minis to scale perfectly with all my figures, that is impossible as I already have many different manufacturers with different sizes. Not too big (GW+) would be great, but I fully understand you cannot downsize them to much, so they wouldn't match your previous works.
Go on and all the best to you!


in the kickstarter campaign there will be a video showing the miniatures.
Now, I do not have the comparison, but I will try to show you.


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 ced1106 wrote:
> You will not believe it, I had thought the same for Gloomhaven, but the logical thing is that the author will do a Kickstarter campaign with miniatures , but I will propose it.

Well, if, by author you mean the creator of Gloomhaven, he's said he won't make miniatures for the game. Understandable, as his interest seems to be game design and story, rather than art direction.

https://cephalofair.com/blogs/blog/lets-talk-miniatures


> I understand that Reaper does not put plastic tray, because his pledge contains many miniatures.

Oh -- Another thing I liked about Reaper was how they didn't assemble miniatures. Pre-assembled miniatures means more pain removing mold lines.


> The plastic tray helps the miniatures not to hit each other in the shipment and also helps that in the Chinese factory they do not make a mistake with the miniatures, because each footprint is unique for each miniature.

BTW, One excuse for tor the vac trays (: is to have include an RPG adventure or miniature wargame scenario that uses the miniatures. You could contact Ganesha Games (Song of Blade and Heroes) and ask if it's okay to add stats to your miniatures, and include some free Song of Blade and Heroes scenarios that use your miniatures.


> However, which miniatures would you like to appear in the campaign? Can you give me ideas

Well, I've managed to proxy every Gloomhaven miniature except (spoilers) Frost Demon, Night Demon and Sun Demon. : https://cephalofair.com/pages/gloomhaven-monster-spoilers

fwiw, D&D 5e Starter Set might also be worth making miniatures for, although the D&D boardgames (eg. Castle Ravenloft) has most miniatures used in the adventures:
https://www.reddit.com/r/dndnext/comments/4uvrq1/just_purchased_5e_starter_set_looking_for_full/
https://www.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/8giqr6/miniatures_set_for_starter_set/

fwiw, Here should be all the D&D mini's available in the D&D Game System boxed games. (The Dungeon Command games are OOP.)
https://ddadventuresystem.fandom.com/wiki/D%26D®_Adventure_System_Wiki

And then you could look at recent bulk generic fantasy miniature KS (eg. Blacklist Games Fantasy Series, Reaper Bones V, Next Level Miniatures) and avoid overlap. Good luck!


Thanks for your comments and feedback!

28th September on Kickstarter
Here is the link to the pre-campaign to get notified once we launch:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/juegorama/the-adventurers-and-monsters-plastic-miniatures-edition

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As usual my thoughts echo those of Orlanth.

I would add that it would be nice to see sculpts that would make nice proxy models for the Frostgrave, Ghost Archipelago and Rangers of Shadow Deep games. There are some obscure monsters in theoretisch could domestic some good looking Budget priced plastic minis.

Oh, and folks tend to like some translucent minis in these kinds of kickstarters.

My wife and I have gotten a lot of Reaper Bones and Blacklist Games miniatures and we have followed their kickstarters closely, as well as Archon Studio’s Dungeons & Lasers. I would recommend studying their Kickstarter campaign designs for maximum success.

Also, whilst we have not backed CMON’s various kickstarters I would studying those as well.

It is not just about presenting good looking budget minis if you want to maximize capital investment via crowdfunding. You need to build a sense of community in the comments section. I recommend getting a strong English language speaker to help with the comments section to maximize international reach. Derek, the volunteer that helped with the Dungeons & Lasers KS comments worked miracles with their public relations. Same with JK, the volunteer on the Hagglethorn Hollow Kickstarter. In my opinion JK saved Tabletop Troubadour from having a much worse PR disaster in a rather troubled post KS campaign management phase and kept a lot of folks from demanding refunds due to delays.

Fireforge Games recent Dwarven Kickstarter in my opinion suffered from poor communication. I think language played a part. Strong English skills only reach a percentage of the market but I think it is the biggest single language to reach an international market.

Another good company to look at for KS management is Dwarven Forge. They are brilliant with multimedia presentation, good community building communication and showing a willingness to react to customer demands.

Your kickstarter is going over some of the same ground as numerous other companies. It will be challenging to get folks to back things they already have. You can see this with responses to the Dragon Hoard miniatures KS currently ongoing.

Maybe your scale of miniatures will help, maybe it will hinder. The best thing to do is to put up photos of size comparisons next to popular models from other companies.

I would like to see your KS be successful whatever scale you chose but I would also like your minis to fit in with the rest of my collection so I can convince my wife to back your KS too.

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As usual my thoughts echo those of Orlanth.

I would add that it would be nice to see sculpts that would make nice proxy models for the Frostgrave, Ghost Archipelago and Rangers of Shadow Deep games. There are some obscure monsters in theoretisch could domestic some good looking Budget priced plastic minis.

Oh, and folks tend to like some translucent minis in these kinds of kickstarters.

My wife and I have gotten a lot of Reaper Bones and Blacklist Games miniatures and we have followed their kickstarters closely, as well as Archon Studio’s Dungeons & Lasers. I would recommend studying their Kickstarter campaign designs for maximum success.

Also, whilst we have not backed CMON’s various kickstarters I would studying those as well.

It is not just about presenting good looking budget minis if you want to maximize capital investment via crowdfunding. You need to build a sense of community in the comments section. I recommend getting a strong English language speaker to help with the comments section to maximize international reach. Derek, the volunteer that helped with the Dungeons & Lasers KS comments worked miracles with their public relations. Same with JK, the volunteer on the Hagglethorn Hollow Kickstarter. In my opinion JK saved Tabletop Troubadour from having a much worse PR disaster in a rather troubled post KS campaign management phase and kept a lot of folks from demanding refunds due to delays.

Fireforge Games recent Dwarven Kickstarter in my opinion suffered from poor communication. I think language played a part. Strong English skills only reach a percentage of the market but I think it is the biggest single language to reach an international market.

Another good company to look at for KS management is Dwarven Forge. They are brilliant with multimedia presentation, good community building communication and showing a willingness to react to customer demands.

Your kickstarter is going over some of the same ground as numerous other companies. It will be challenging to get folks to back things they already have. You can see this with responses to the Dragon Hoard miniatures KS currently ongoing.

Maybe your scale of miniatures will help, maybe it will hinder. The best thing to do is to put up photos of size comparisons next to popular models from other companies.

I would like to see your KS be successful whatever scale you chose but I would also like your minis to fit in with the rest of my collection so I can convince my wife to back your KS too.


Thanks for your comments and advice.
We have seen the campaigns of other manufacturers and we are going to try to make our miniatures different, although sometimes it is normal to repeat races.
We collaborate with Buster Lehn in the comments and translations section and he always does a great job or so we think, if you enter our campaign you will be able to know him. Also when shipping from Spain to the CE the VAT will be included.
The scale I really think will not be that important, for backers with the fantasy serie or with 28mm heroic. Although we will scale it to 30mm and 32mm. Here you can see some examples:



28th September on Kickstarter
Here is the link to the pre-campaign:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/juegorama/the-adventurers-and-monsters-plastic-miniatures-edition



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28th September on Kickstarter
Here is the link to the pre-campaign:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/juegorama/the-adventurers-and-monsters-plastic-miniatures-edition

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Hi!
The Adventurers & Monsters plastic miniatures edition is live on Kickstarter!
Early Bird 72hours (left 48h)



Link:
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Backed on day one. Looking good.
I hope you can drum up more interest in several forums etc. to get this going faster. It's a big number for funding, but I respect the realistic approach, instead of the usual KS theatre.
Good luck!

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Backed this in early bird, rapidly losing any hope.

Answer is obvious though.

Wrong scale = fail.

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Wait, what scale is it?

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Vague actually somewhere between 32mm and 36mm.

There were some scale comparisons but against poorly matched choices.






These are compared against a selected Reaper and Wizkids miniature.
reaper scale can be all over the place so that is no help. The picture has a lot of non-humans in it anyway, which gives extra leeway. Even so the direct human to human comparisons you see are unfavourable.

Plenty of backers have mentioned that 28mm is where the profits are. The real proof would be matching these minis against commonly used terrain.

During the campaign there was a poll after some backers complained when they found out the bases will not fit a one inch grid. The poll came back massively in favour of rescaling the bases at least. Thing is, from the poses the bases are a suitable size. Better to go the whole hog and rebase for 28mm entirely, it is the sensible way forward, but I think it treads on someones dreams so it wont happen.

Campaign is now well into the last 48 hour rush phase, and there is no rush. There is good news many backers have pledged to return for a relaunch. Jeugorama might take a step back and wonder what is going wrong. There are several possibilities from marketing, lack of stretchgoals, copypasta, and scale.

Hopefully someone in the studio will love the smell of Euros more than the need to supersize miniatures. I know where this is coming from, they are probably painting enthusiasts, and a lot of painters prefer larger scales. Thing if you want miniatures so you can spend ten hours wet blending the perfect face there are companies that make miniatures for that, normally ultra high detail resin one offs by studios that cater to commission painters and painting enthusiasts.

This however is a box of plastic fairly generic RPG miniatures. The market is for those who want to slap on some contrast paint and put them up for the next D&D game. I am continually surprised at the lack of companies doing basic dungeon adventurers in plastic. Male and female, elf, dwarf human, fighter, cleric, mage and rogue. Someone finally does some but then thinks they are producing for the commission painter market.

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Thank you for your comments and feedback on the campaign.
We would love to know your opinion in the following survey, Please fill out the survey only if you are interested in backer the relaunch so as not to detract from survey:
https://www.kickandgo.es/creatures-and-monsters-plastic-miniatures-edition/survey_scale.php

Thank you very much for your support, we will soon be back with more news.


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 Orlanth wrote:
Vague actually somewhere between 32mm and 36mm.

There were some scale comparisons but against poorly matched choices.


These are compared against a selected Reaper and Wizkids miniature.
reaper scale can be all over the place so that is no help. The picture has a lot of non-humans in it anyway, which gives extra leeway. Even so the direct human to human comparisons you see are unfavourable.

Plenty of backers have mentioned that 28mm is where the profits are. The real proof would be matching these minis against commonly used terrain.

During the campaign there was a poll after some backers complained when they found out the bases will not fit a one inch grid. The poll came back massively in favour of rescaling the bases at least. Thing is, from the poses the bases are a suitable size. Better to go the whole hog and rebase for 28mm entirely, it is the sensible way forward, but I think it treads on someones dreams so it wont happen.

Campaign is now well into the last 48 hour rush phase, and there is no rush. There is good news many backers have pledged to return for a relaunch. Jeugorama might take a step back and wonder what is going wrong. There are several possibilities from marketing, lack of stretchgoals, copypasta, and scale.

Hopefully someone in the studio will love the smell of Euros more than the need to supersize miniatures. I know where this is coming from, they are probably painting enthusiasts, and a lot of painters prefer larger scales. Thing if you want miniatures so you can spend ten hours wet blending the perfect face there are companies that make miniatures for that, normally ultra high detail resin one offs by studios that cater to commission painters and painting enthusiasts.

This however is a box of plastic fairly generic RPG miniatures. The market is for those who want to slap on some contrast paint and put them up for the next D&D game. I am continually surprised at the lack of companies doing basic dungeon adventurers in plastic. Male and female, elf, dwarf human, fighter, cleric, mage and rogue. Someone finally does some but then thinks they are producing for the commission painter market.


I appreciate your feedback.
We did not want to modify the scale by our former patrons and we have always thought that the market is going to 30mm or 32mm, but possibly we have been wrong.

We have received a lot of feedback that will help us in our relaunch.

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I am pretty flexible on scale compared to a number of my mates but I have my limits. I try to put all my “human sized” figures on 25mm bases. This means I often rebase Reaper Miniatures for example on 25mm round bases. Going from 25mm to 32mm figures means that trying to push it to either 20mm or 35mm is just too much. Which is a shame for me because I would have loved to back the recent Solomon Kane Kickstarter.

And ultimately scale is why I chose not to back this Kickstarter.

35mm seems to me what board games are moving towards but I think tabletop wargaming and RPGs are currently still focusing on figures smaller than that.

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Our last update on Kickstarter:
Getting ready to relaunch!
Dear backers,
We wanted to share with you that we are working hard in the future relaunch of our miniatures campaign, and we already have the link to the pre-launch page, if you click on it, Kickstarter will inform you once we launch the campaign:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/juegorama/the-adventurers-and-monsters-28mm-plastic-miniatures-edition
We expect to have everything ready for the relaunch in the next weeks, although we will inform you of the exact date before that.
We also wanted to thank you for your feedback and for participating in our last survey.
From a total of 239 votes.
60% of our backers prefer miniatures in a 28mm scale.
20% of our backers prefer miniatures in a 32mm scale.
And 20% of our backers said that they would be fine with either option.
This means that there is a huge majority of our backers who prefer a 28mm scale, so we can announce that we will relaunch the campaign with 28mm figures.
We are currently working in several surprises for the campaign, and we’ll soon tell you more about them!
Thank you for your support, more news coming soon.
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We want to inform you that we are preparing the relaunch for January 2022 and, although we don’t have a set date yet, we will let you know as soon as we have the exact date.

Campaign updates:

- All the miniatures will be in a 28mm scale.
- The 11 wizards of different races add-on is currently being modeled, you will have the chance to see the models since day 1 of the campaign. Here is the female Elf wizard:


-We will launch the campaign with a significant reduction of the campaign goal, and for that reason we had to do some adjustments to the campaign, for example, we will not include the plastic tray from the start. The plastic injection of most models will be done in a single piece, but some miniatures may require assembly, such as miniatures with wings, tentacles, larger figures like the tarrax, or those with poses that are too complex to manufacture in just one piece. Nonetheless, the assembly process will be very simple using some glue. This said, we want to point out that most of the figures will come in a single piece and will not require assembly, although some of them may have slightly modified poses.

-This campaign will be Kickstarter exclusive to give even more value to your pledges.

-This campaign has the SATISFACTION GUARANTEE seal: Money-back guarantee: If you receive our "The Adventurers & Monsters Pledge" and it doesn´t meet your expectations, you can send it back to us and we'll refund the value of your pledge (minus Kickstarter fees). Limited to 30-days after receptions.

-Also, we are going to include our Dragon from our previous campaign.



Thank you for your support, more news coming soon.
Juegorama

Pre-launch page
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/juegorama/the-adventurers-and-monsters-28mm-plastic-miniatures-edition
   
 
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