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As I'm piecing together the beginnings of my army from the combat patrol box, I'm thinking about the background & lore of my minor order. But before I get too deep into writing it out, I wanted to bounce off the wise minds here to see if a fleet-based Adepta Sororitas order would be feasible in the lore? I'm envisioning a minor order formed to help protect pilgrims & ecclesiarchy figures fleeing the Imperium Nihilus toward Vigilus to escape through the Gauntlet, but I'm not aware of any precedent for Sisters operating from a strictly fleet-based environment.

Even if it's not precedented, does this make sense, or am I missing something that should preclude this?
   
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I don't recall any established lore about a fleet based order but I see no reason against one. I could see any number of reasons why one could attach themselves to crusade fleets.
   
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The Adepta Sororitas are servants of the Ecclesiarchy. Any fleet-based Order would need to be in service to some sort of fleet-based Ecclesiarchy operation. That's not normally their style, but it is a big galaxy.
   
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I can't think of any examples of fleet based SoBs, but no reason why you couldn't do that.

One possible way could be if a small order dedicated itself to maintaining a particular pilgrimage route, so were fleet based as they continuously patrol that route in a sub-sector or some such.
   
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I could see an order that's popped up across a crusade fleet or something.

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Crusading force, pilgrim route patrol or Missionaria Galaxia-assigned order. Very much appropriate. Bring the flames of faith to all corners of the misbegotten galaxy.

You may want to check out Isaac Arthur's futurist science and science fiction Youtube channel. He delves at length into all manner of plausible spaceborne civilizations. The planetbound space opera needs to expand its horizon and embrace space, since it's such an obvious inclusion in the genre.

This is why I'm always harping on about Imperial worlds and voidholms. Void installations and roaming fleets must constantly be imagined as part of the Imperial landscape, as much as moons and planets must.

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Sounds like a fun idea - the Church has the resources to fund them and a roving force isnpecting/ protecting religious sites seems a resonable element.


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Happy to see some positive feedback, which tells me it's at least plausible in the lore. I envision a newly-formed minor order to serve as humanitarian/crusader sisters whose sole purpose is to guide the Emperor's faithful out of darkness and back into the Imperium Sanctus. I have some floating ideas, but I think it'll make some good fluff.
   
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TheMightyLevon wrote:
Happy to see some positive feedback, which tells me it's at least plausible in the lore. I envision a newly-formed minor order to serve as humanitarian/crusader sisters whose sole purpose is to guide the Emperor's faithful out of darkness and back into the Imperium Sanctus. I have some floating ideas, but I think it'll make some good fluff.


Protecting a relatively stable route through the Maelstrom seems like a perfect assignment for the Adepta Sororitas. They are both highly capable and devout enough to resist all the warp temptations/corruption.

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Sororitas based on a navy fleet or orbital environment, yes, or on an ecclesiarchy-sponsored pilgrim fleet. The Ecclesiarchy has at least some armed vessels, such as the Hammer of Thor - though that may technically be a seconded navy ship.


A pure "sororitas fleet" of true warships like a space marine chapter fleet, on the other hand is a no-no, based on Codex: Witchhunters:

"Important Note: An Orbital Strike may only be chosen if an Inquisitor or Inquisitor Lord is part of the force. The terms of the Decree Passive forbid the Ecclesiarchy from maintaining its own war fleets, and so the Sisters of Battle are reliant upon the Imperial Navy and Inquisitorial Vessels for this type of support."


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A pure "sororitas fleet" of true warships like a space marine chapter fleet, on the other hand is a no-no, based on Codex: Witchhunters:

"Important Note: An Orbital Strike may only be chosen if an Inquisitor or Inquisitor Lord is part of the force. The terms of the Decree Passive forbid the Ecclesiarchy from maintaining its own war fleets, and so the Sisters of Battle are reliant upon the Imperial Navy and Inquisitorial Vessels for this type of support."


Well current Campaign books have them having Capital class warships all the way up to Battleships so thats changed I think:

From War Zone: Charadon bk 2, pg. 15

Bruning in from the dark side of Lith came two enomours Adepta Sororitas Piety class crusiers. The lumbering captial ships bore the heraldry of the Order of Our Matyred Lady and were accompanied by an escort of Navis Imperialis frigates.


Forces of the Imperium, pg. 38
Battle Group Main Void/Naval Asaets
19 Adepta Sororitas captial-class offering ships (varied patterns and provanence)


I seem to remember some vague references to Sororitas warships before Codex Witchhunters as well

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Heh, I've been toying with a similar idea of a voidborne Order dedicated to protecting pilgrims. Great minds and all that

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A pure "sororitas fleet" of true warships like a space marine chapter fleet, on the other hand is a no-no, based on Codex: Witchhunters:

"Important Note: An Orbital Strike may only be chosen if an Inquisitor or Inquisitor Lord is part of the force. The terms of the Decree Passive forbid the Ecclesiarchy from maintaining its own war fleets, and so the Sisters of Battle are reliant upon the Imperial Navy and Inquisitorial Vessels for this type of support."


Well current Campaign books have them having Capital class warships all the way up to Battleships so thats changed I think:

From War Zone: Charadon bk 2, pg. 15

Bruning in from the dark side of Lith came two enomours Adepta Sororitas Piety class crusiers. The lumbering captial ships bore the heraldry of the Order of Our Matyred Lady and were accompanied by an escort of Navis Imperialis frigates.


Forces of the Imperium, pg. 38
Battle Group Main Void/Naval Asaets
19 Adepta Sororitas captial-class offering ships (varied patterns and provanence)


I seem to remember some vague references to Sororitas warships before Codex Witchhunters as well


I wouldn't be surprised if this is yet another loophole that the Ecclesiarchy is gaming hard, so long as they don't push beyond certain boundaries.

Perhaps they are "civilian transport cruisers" that are armed "purely for self defense", but of course the Ecclesiarchy has deep enough coffers to purchase the largest transports for use, and they would never skimp on the defensive firepower for the faithful, and the Emperor protects... with metres thick adamantium plate...

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As others have said, strictly speaking it would be a breach of the Decree Passive.

However the Adeptus Ministorum supports both pilgrims and wars of faith and the Adepta Sororitas peform key roles for both of these things.

The Imperial Navy also provide support to both of these undertakings.

In the end as long as you're smart about it. The wealth and influence if the church can get away with a lot.

   
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If they're based on a Adeptus Ministorum fleet as refugees after their world was destroyed, that could make sense. Basically they're that fleets security.

Then they recruit from their Orders minor convents on nearby worlds.

   
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I actually had the idea for my minor order of a sisterhood that lost their world, and now dwells aboard an indomatus crusade fleet acting as both another military element and guarding the shrines on each ship in the fleet

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Those are all solid ideas -- I had presumed, based on what I'd read, that they would be using Imperial Navy ships allocated for the purpose of their mission, with the expectation that they'll likely end up in the Order's service for an extended period of time thanks to Ecclesiarchical maneuvering.

The concept of losing a homeworld and ending up on board a fleet is an interesting concept to play with. My initial thought was that they were organized as a 40k analogue of a missionary/service-oriented order, whipped together for the specific purpose of seeing pilgrims and high-value Ecclesiarchy figures out of the Imperium Nihilis, but there are a lot of good ideas in this threat to tweak that with.
   
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The sisters often protect relics, which are usually on a planet somewhere, but what if those relics travelled from system to system to spread the Emperor's blessing across the Imperium? Basically a christian procession, except on a galactic scale. It would make sense to have a bunch of sororitas (both militant and non-militant) travelling along.
   
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 Tiennos wrote:
The sisters often protect relics, which are usually on a planet somewhere, but what if those relics travelled from system to system to spread the Emperor's blessing across the Imperium? Basically a christian procession, except on a galactic scale. It would make sense to have a bunch of sororitas (both militant and non-militant) travelling along.


Some voidships are relics - another reason for them to be ship based, they are protecting it for the faithful!

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"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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Militant:
-based on vessels permanently assigned to protect a holy location or pilgrimage route.
i.e. a fleet that follows the same route Sebastian Thor did before or after the siege on Terra (i.e. from the day of reformation until the day his body was returned).

-based on a vessel which is itself a relic or carries a relic.

-a force secunded for an indefinite period to another force - i.e. an Inquisitor with a hereticus strike force, and alliance such as that of the Vinculus crusade, or the forces of a Saint such as Sabbat (or a Canoness Errant like Setheno).

This also applies to any instance where the sisterhood may be in service as some form of payment or pact - i.e. a rogue trader that had secured their service for ten thousand years in return for a single flake of paint from the Emperors own armour.


Non-militant:
- the ecclesiarchy has the missionarus galaxia, dedicated to bringing faith to the faithless. It stands to reason that in the more dangerous parts of the galaxy there may be significant deployment of sisters waiting for a distress call to deal with any xenos that get in the way of local populations enlightenment.

- the sisters pronatus are a non-militant order dedicated to locating and recovering lost relics and items at any cost. As with the galaxia some sectors may need backup on-hand.
   
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 Haighus wrote:
Heh, I've been toying with a similar idea of a voidborne Order dedicated to protecting pilgrims. Great minds and all that


I actually had a similar idea myself, wanting to make my sisters a roving order protecting pilgrimage routes in Imperium Nihilus. Dithering over whether to add the darker implication that focusing on holy sites meant abandoning some more desperately besieged, or just as endangered but more populated, worlds, or to just focus on the 'protecting the faithful' aspect. I'd imagined them being hosted on other Imperial ships and often being accompanied by particularly fanatical crew members when they transferred to the next ship.

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Not a fleet per say, but for a while I had been working on a side project from my main sisters (for alternate detachments), a group of sisters who defended shrines on imperial space infrastructure.

Some of that stuff is thousands of years old, so it stands to reason that they could have their own relics and holy places that an order minorous might have the honor of guarding.

My idea was lots of seraphim and such with hazard stripes being a holy marker.
   
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If you're looking for some visual inspiration, a GW catalogue once included a converted Battlefleet Gothic battleship for the Sisters of Battle. It was meant to be a unique ship, not part of a SoB fleet, but it's worth checking out. (I'm not keen on the prow, but the rest of the ship looks pretty cool.)

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