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Longtime Dakkanaut





Hi,

I really like the market place that GW has made for necromunda. I know they do other bits of scenery but I e always thought it was pretty expensive.

If they made more scenery, and therefore it was cheaper, would you buy it? Or do you love making it yourself.

I’d be interested to know what people are using as scenery. Is anyone really letting that part of the game slide? Having their armies hide behind Coffee mugs and toilet rolls ?
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut





I use a lot of MDF terrain. Cheap and plentiful. Huge pain in the ass to assemble though.

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Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.

I take terrain very seriously.

It is the thing I derive the most enjoyment out of the 'hobby' aspects of 40k.

Industrial Insanity - My Terrain Blog
"GW really needs to understand 'Less is more' when it comes to AoS." - Wha-Mu-077

 
   
Made in gb
Executing Exarch





London, UK

I pick up terrain if I can find it cheaply through eBay or the hachette magazines but since getting a 3D printer I've switched to that given the cost and a few hours waiting time.

If GW terrain was cheaper I'd buy more of it.

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Longtime Dakkanaut




Annandale, VA

If GW terrain was cheaper and functional I'd buy more of it. 5" tall ladders you can't stop halfway on and lots of holes, cracks, and windows to draw LOS through don't make for a great time in 9th.

   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut





 catbarf wrote:
If GW terrain was cheaper and functional I'd buy more of it. 5" tall ladders you can't stop halfway on and lots of holes, cracks, and windows to draw LOS through don't make for a great time in 9th.


?? Obscuring takes care of those holes.
   
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon






To be honest, I don’t think there are many better options than GW’s own terrain.

It’s the same plastic as their models, and designed to be in scale. It’s also pretty easy to build, with easy ways to square off your walls and corners using other bits of the kit.

The thought put into the modularity and compatibility is superb, and whilst some degree of modelling experience is needed, it’s not a massive amount. Certainly I’d argue the level needed is easily learnt.

Sure it’s not the cheapest, but price and value aren’t the same thing, what with value being rather subjective, and I’m not about to tell anyone whether it’s good value or not.

Me? I love it. All of it.

   
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Ultramarine Terminator with Assault Cannon






My personal terrain collection is extensive and exclusively GW, but there are many other companies that produce fantastic terrain. I stick exclusively to GW terrain because it's quality and perfectly fits visually.

My view on terrain is that it is crucially important. It sets the stage for the game, the story and helps greatly with player emersion.

Everyone in this hobby, everyone (it's a universal truth), gushes with overwhelming enthusiasm over a beautifully created battlefield / game board and it's because this games greatest aspect is the cinematic, visual experience.
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut





MDF stuff does a pretty good job, but...they often have poor instructions, aren't as durable, and literally hurt to put together. Visually it's up there, but you're getting trade offs for the lower price.

Spoiler:


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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon






My beef with MDF terrain is that no matter how intricate, it always manages to look cheap.

Though it does, like GW’s own kits, have the advantage of being up to the rough and tumble of actually playing games with it.

   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut





 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
My beef with MDF terrain is that no matter how intricate, it always manages to look cheap.

Though it does, like GW’s own kits, have the advantage of being up to the rough and tumble of actually playing games with it.


Agreed
   
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Executing Exarch





London, UK

 Daedalus81 wrote:
 catbarf wrote:
If GW terrain was cheaper and functional I'd buy more of it. 5" tall ladders you can't stop halfway on and lots of holes, cracks, and windows to draw LOS through don't make for a great time in 9th.


?? Obscuring takes care of those holes.


"Models that are on or within the terrain feature can be seen and targeted normally", so those holes do matter if you're in it, it's only obscuring if you're behind it.

The fix is doing bottom floor is LoS blocking like ITC rules did in 8th but then you're into house ruling.

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Decrepit Dakkanaut





 Tyranid Horde wrote:
 Daedalus81 wrote:
 catbarf wrote:
If GW terrain was cheaper and functional I'd buy more of it. 5" tall ladders you can't stop halfway on and lots of holes, cracks, and windows to draw LOS through don't make for a great time in 9th.


?? Obscuring takes care of those holes.


"Models that are on or within the terrain feature can be seen and targeted normally", so those holes do matter if you're in it, it's only obscuring if you're behind it.

The fix is doing bottom floor is LoS blocking like ITC rules did in 8th but then you're into house ruling.


Right, but then you have cover at that point. And it is by true LOS so some buildings still block sight unless they're swiss cheese ( which of course is at times GW's claim to fame ).
   
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Ship's Officer





Dallas, TX

one thing for sure is that if there is a unit and a scenery that you like equally from GW, get the scenery, as it goes OOP quicker than the unit without warning, then later arrive on eBay with skyrocket listing price. The plastic consistency on scenery from GW is typically either harder or softer than regular, making it hard to prep prior to painting.
   
Made in de
Battlefield Tourist






Nuremberg

GW makes some great scenery, and there've been a bunch of good start ups producing similar stuff recently along with the old favourites like the gothic buildings and space corridors.

I like that stuff, I used to have a fair bit of it. But I like building my own stuff these days. I like the process of crafting it, and I like the complete control it gives me over the dimensions and modularity. I think a lot about storage and modularity, so being able to fine tune all of that stuff and get exactly the sets I want is worth it to me, and I save money for the miniatures, which I can't craft.

Admittedly, my stuff won't look as detailed or nice as GW stuff, but I'm fine with that. I think if it's all of a similar level, then it looks great anyway, and a little bit of work on aesthetics can go a long way with home made terrain. I'll definitely sacrifice aesthetics for playability, modularity and ease of storage, but I think I never have to compromise so much that my stuff looks bad.

But either way, I'm just happy to see cool tables with nice terrain no matter how it was acquired.

   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
My beef with MDF terrain is that no matter how intricate, it always manages to look cheap.

Though it does, like GW’s own kits, have the advantage of being up to the rough and tumble of actually playing games with it.


Why does it look cheap? Surely it’s down to the paint job……. ?

I didn’t know it was thing until now so curious
   
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Waaagh! Ork Warboss




Italy

 Daedalus81 wrote:
I use a lot of MDF terrain. Cheap and plentiful. Huge pain in the ass to assemble though.



Me too, especially for Necromunda. Good thing is most of the stuff looks reasonably ok even unpainted so I can dedicate to more exciting things to paint and still use the just assembled pieces of terrain in the meantime. Well painted MDF terrain looks just as good as plastic terrain.

GW prices are too high for terrain, for the minimum amount I needed I could have bought a full 3000 points brand new army, and those kits become OOP in no time.

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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer





Mississippi

I've recently bought into a lot of Archon's plastic terrain (Rampart as well as Dungeons & Lasers) - cheap and good-looking. Also, Gale Force 9 makes a lot of pre-painted terrain that I've picked up and enjoy.

Previously, I did a fair bit of scratch-building my own scenery, but the time and final results often were not as impressive as I'd hoped. Where possible, I now buy pre-made when I can.

It never ends well 
   
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Stealthy Grot Snipa





Atlanta, GA

I have a ton of mdf terrain from both Kromlech and Death Ray Designs.
   
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 Stormonu wrote:
Also, Gale Force 9 makes a lot of pre-painted terrain that I've picked up and enjoy.
I'll second the praise for GF9's 'Battlefield in a Box' stuff.

A lot of great variety with that stuff, especially for non-ruined buildings (though they make a few ranges for those as well). Hills, rocks, desert stuff, trees and rivers - all great things that they make that, in turn, help make boards look amazing.

Plus it means I can do entire tables* where I don't have to use any damned Imperial ruins!



*The larger hills/mountains are from Gamemat.eu

Industrial Insanity - My Terrain Blog
"GW really needs to understand 'Less is more' when it comes to AoS." - Wha-Mu-077

 
   
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk






 Daedalus81 wrote:
MDF stuff does a pretty good job, but...they often have poor instructions, aren't as durable, and literally hurt to put together. Visually it's up there, but you're getting trade offs for the lower price.

Spoiler:




Haha, agree on everything said about MDF terrain. I have a bunch of the orkenburg stuff and it's cheap, a complete PITA to assemble, but looks good when done and is very functional for games. Essentially my entire terrain that's not trees or forest is either GW or MDF.

With the boss bunka and the last killteam box I can now have 100% ork terrain on a 44x60 board.

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