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Lebanon NH


Greetings folks,

I have a simple question: are "Cities of Sigmar" armies competitive in AoS 3.0?

A friend of mine at the FLGS has a great Cities army that he made out of entirely historical models, and honestly I was thinking of actually joining him in the "historical minis in a fantasy wargame" themed madness. My two ideas were a ranged heavy Cities army with a Napoleonic theme, or to go instead with a Lumineth theme using samurai minis to represent the newest incarnation of the high elves (Katana wielders for sword-masters, Ashigaru archers for archers, Ashigaru spearmen for the phalanx, you get the idea!)

I have already heard that Lumineth are quite powerful in 3.0, but does Cities actually stack up these days? I certainly don't need "top tier", but: "doesn't lose horribly every game" would be nice!
   
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Absolutely. Though the model range is large and much of it isn't competitive, so you have to pick your units carefully if you want a competitive list. It's easy to make a very bad Cities list if you aren't careful.

Competitive cities lists tend to focus on irondrakes right now. You'll also see a celestial hurricanum in basically every competitive list. Beyond that, there are various variations on the theme, but they tend to build around those two pieces, and they tend to be shooting-focused.

   
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Lebanon NH


Thanks for the reply!

I get that the model range is vast, but aside from the hurricanum and iron-drakes is there anything else that is, say, a strong contender?

I would like to go mostly human if possible. Things like Greatswords, Pistoleers, and handgunners all seem decent enough... but I'm worried that every one of those units simply cannot survive in a game where it is pretty dang easy to just delete a 20 man block of single wound infantry...
   
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Pistoleers are the only unit of those that sees much competitive play. Big bricks of melee infantry aren't very good in this edition. Phoenix guard see some play because they're a decent tarpit, hammerers very occasionally because you can buff through through the roof (though you're better off just doing it with irondrakes instead usually).

A human-based cities army won't be competitive. It won't be completely terrible, but you aren't going to win games against strong lists with it.

The only human stuff that's genuinely good is the hurricanum, plus battlemages if you're playing hallowheart, and maybe pistoleers in tempest's eye. But you can't build an army out of any of those things. Competitive cities lists will probably have 500, maybe 750 points at most of human units.
   
 
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