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Greetings folks,

As the title asks: do YOU think there will ever be another iteration of the old "Epic 40k" game? If not in name, at least in the SPIRIT of epic-style conflicts more analogous to an actual battle (as opposed to the weird pseudo-skirmish size of most 40k games).

What do you think? Will we be forever deprived? Will it arrive this Christmas? NEXT Christmas?
   
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It's certainly not inconceivable as Specialist Games have been very careful to future-proof aspects of AT/AI, enforce a consistent scale, etc. That being said I'm not expecting it to happen. If it ever does, it won't be anytime soon - their energies are mostly concentrated elsewhere.

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We just had one, the latest Apocalypse is ruleswise in the same family as various Epics before it.

Titans and aircraft are being covered by GW as of now, so it's not entirely unthinkable they'd do tanks and infantry as well at some point. Not for years, anyway, SG team has been pretty clear on this.

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Gosh I hope so. Best gw game ever imho. Wish I could have played it more when it was around…

   
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Nope.
   
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Probably not. I'd love to see them mine it for mechanics in 40k as the skirmish game continues to increase in model count.

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anyone can have any epic miniatures they want for a micro-fraction of what it costs to build a 40k army.

3d printer and you could probably make 3 epic armies with a single half-liter of resin.

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Given GW's usual approach to these things I'm expecting there'll be one release and then a long, slow trickle of more stuff, and the game will get cancelled long before there are enough models out to actually play it because GW will ascribe the low sales figures to people not wanting the game rather than to them not having enough models to play the lists they want.

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I would love it to make a comeback, and we already have Titans and aircraft so we’re part of the way there.

With the rumours that support for Adeptus Titanicus is ending next year I won’t be holding my breath though. If AT is not popular enough to keep supporting I don’t see why GW would want to release Epic 40K.
   
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Yes, I believe there will be someday.

That day is certainly not this Christmas nor next though.
   
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If they were to come out with something Epic-esque, I'd hope that it wouldn't be a miniatures games. Either make all the units cardboard chips or make it a video game. I don't think I'd be keen to spend money on an army I already have but at a different scale.
   
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I think it is unlikely.

GW's focus isn't on the gameplay anymore, it's on the spectacle and grandeur of the models. Epic-scale infantry is too small to give it that "wow" detail like their larger showpieces.

We *might* see a game or multiple games that focus on the vehicles, ala AI or AT that may have an occasional stand of infantry, but nothing that will have swathes of 8/6mm infantry figures, simply because they will look poor.

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It's not wow on individual model but as an army it's bigger wow. You want wow on fantasy armies, you go for 6mm

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Epic Armageddon is basically the best version of 40k.

I almost hope they don't release one.

Vanguard miniatures also has a great selection, coupled with AT and AI, you have all the minis you really need.
   
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I personally think a big part of the barrier for Epic is painting the models, some of them must be so difficult.

On the flip side though, contrast paint would make Nids a breeze to do.

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They'll do something similar eventually.

Just a question of how long it takes to work their way that far down the nostalgia list.
   
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They'll do something similar eventually.

Just a question of how long it takes to work their way that far down the nostalgia list.


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leerm02 wrote:

Greetings folks,

As the title asks: do YOU think there will ever be another iteration of the old "Epic 40k" game? If not in name, at least in the SPIRIT of epic-style conflicts more analogous to an actual battle (as opposed to the weird pseudo-skirmish size of most 40k games).

What do you think? Will we be forever deprived? Will it arrive this Christmas? NEXT Christmas?

The beta will come out late March 2026 and models and final rules will be released digitally for the GW 3d printer early December 2026. It'll receive critical acclaim but it won't become a staple despite it's relative balance due to dumbed down rules and a focus on a mechanic that stop getting developed after the first expansion pack released late January 2027. GW will go back to focussing on Warhammer Old World as their main cash cow after Epic Returns turns out to be a long-term flop for a few years before they restore their 40k factories from the fires.
   
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I think 3D printing is killing the chance of re-release. It is just too easy and cheap now to print epic stuff.
   
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Epic already has a pretty healthy community and rules are freely available. Its pretty easy to pick up and get started (at least with some of the factions).

I'm not really convinced that a GW reboot would improve anything. They would probably cluster the game full of strategems and such. They would most certainly rescale the minis in an attempt to make 3rd party minis and old collections obsolete, and thereby split the fans in two camps again. I think the game would remain more fresh if it is kept in the hands of the community.

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Epic and Warmaster are both experiencing a sort of DIY renaissance right now thanks to 3d printing. Do some poking around on instagram, there's a ton of amazing stuff out there for very cheap.

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I would love it to make a comeback, and we already have Titans and aircraft so we’re part of the way there.

With the rumours that support for Adeptus Titanicus is ending next year I won’t be holding my breath though. If AT is not popular enough to keep supporting I don’t see why GW would want to release Epic 40K.


AT came way too late. Besides my itch for big stompy robots was scratched by IK from 40K. Anybody wanting to play Epic should try Drop fleet Commander.
   
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The original Epic Hierophant bio-titan is one of my fave models of all time. Even though Forgeworld is hideously expensive, if their hierophant looked anything like the epic model, I would have found a way to pay for one.

Unfortunately, FW chose to sculpt something that looks like a cross between a slug and a daddy long legs...

Maybe that's a good thing. More money for other stuff.
   
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I doubt we'll see anything, ever. It would be a significant investment to create the large line of models Epic would require. One I do not think GW is willing to make.

It's likely that 3D printing has killed any chance of Epic's return. There's a fairly healthy community of Epic Armageddon players who have had decades to create models for the game, most of which are now churned out with 3D printers because it's fast and easy. 3D printers do really well with the smaller scale.

   
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 Strg Alt wrote:

AT came way too late. Besides my itch for big stompy robots was scratched by IK from 40K.


Yep, this. Ultimately conceptually Epic is just 40K in a different scale. I feel Battlefleet Gothic would have been far more interesting to bring back, as that is something far more different.

   
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 Crimson wrote:
 Strg Alt wrote:

AT came way too late. Besides my itch for big stompy robots was scratched by IK from 40K.


Yep, this. Ultimately conceptually Epic is just 40K in a different scale. I feel Battlefleet Gothic would have been far more interesting to bring back, as that is something far more different.


I think of all specialist games BFG is probably the one most people would like to see return and I find it much more likely than Epic. GW just doesn't do anything smaller than 28/32mm anymore, they had Warmaster, Epic and Battle of 5 armies and I find all of them unlikely to return. I'd say the only reason BFG is not announced yet is because it'd need quite a lot of ressources, more so than AT or AI.

If you want to play Epic rules I feel the current Apoc rules are close enough and I doubt GW will do more along these lines.
   
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Maybe.

I'd prefer an Epic scale WHFB though - that'd be truly epic!
   
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Maybe.

I'd prefer an Epic scale WHFB though - that'd be truly epic!


Warmaster is undergoing a resurrection in the community right now, as previously mentioned. Good system, too.

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 Strg Alt wrote:
Anybody wanting to play Epic should try Drop fleet Commander.


Why? Part of the draw of Epic is playing with the Titans. Last I checked there was nothing of the sort in Drop Fleet. Besides, didn't they split that game in two? Fleet being all spaceships ala BFG & Drop Zone Commander being the tanks & stuff (still no Titans).
   
 
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