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Ok, so inquisitors with the current rules. what can they be used for and are they worth inclusion in any army?

I run custodes and crimson fists, and I sort of feel they could have a spot in custodes. Ive been going back to running strategic mastermind on my captain lately as custodes just simply win by way of strat Imo, and an inquisitor with interrogation could free up that slot maybe. its still pretty hard to rely on that power, though. First you need to cast it and not get denied then you have to be within 12 of an enemy character AND beat his leadership with 3d6. Also, you'd get a free deny and maybe a second power If you want to run a more expensive build. is that worth 60 points in a custodes army? I dont know.

With my space marine army I sort of torn. On one hand Id love a 5++ for a biker/infantry squad with the order malleus power. I guess interrogation could be decent too here for more CP.

a third build could be a mortal wound machine with smite and castigation for a potential of 2d3 mortals per turn for 60 points. that sounds pretty good compared to say an eldar warlock.

any opinions on this matter?


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ah, sorry. alpha class psyker doesn't allow for two casts. so no mortal wound machine..

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Made in au
Regular Dakkanaut



Australia.

After reading the Eisenhorn books and short stories I have really wanted to include one as well - am interested to see what people think about this.
   
Made in de
Longtime Dakkanaut



Bamberg / Erlangen

You can get two casts and denies with a Malleus Inquisitor taking their respective WT.

If you really feel you need a third deny, you can put Alpha Class Psyker on top.

In terms of usefulness, imho there are only two builds:

- Either you go Malleus with 2 casts and 2-3 denies.
- Or you go Xenos for Esoteric Lore with 1 cast and 1-2 denies. Maybe going without Psyker is better here, as it means you give up a good secondary and 1k Sons gain a great secondary against you.

Both are bad in combat, but Xenos is a bit better with Universal Anathema and a force weapon than Malleus with Tainted Blade.

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Battleship Captain




Don't forget the inquisition stratagem themselves if you want command points. An inquisitor has no place trying to solo an enemy character but STRATEGIC EXCRUCIATION just needs him to lurk nearby having a quiet pint whilst someone tall, dark and golden-armoured beats the crap out of your enemy's characters.

The only inquisitors really belonging in the front line are Eisenhorn (or more specifically Cherubael) and Kamarazov, as judgement trousers has stats more like a custodes or gravis astartes character

Other uses? An inquisitor with Formidable Resolve and Psychic Fortitude is a great morale linchpin for more cowardly armies, with a 9" bubble of LD10 and the ability to nail one unit to the floor if the power goes off, and TO THE EXCLUSION OF ALL ELSE gives you a reroll 1s ability that's rarer in non-cadian guard than most imperial armies.


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Regular Dakkanaut




thanks, guys. super good notes. Had to look up. strategic excruciation : ) pretty neat. very situational, though. 3 inches is not much.
   
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Perturbed Blood Angel Tactical Marine




I don't know if it's an overcorrection or not at this point, but the competitive scene are actively avoiding taking single utility psykers if they can because of Grey Knights and Thousand Sons. Against TS, it's essentially guranteeing them an auto-15 on Wrath of Magnus or whatever it's called to have one in your list and it locks you out of abhor the witch in both match ups.

If I have the chance of getting matched with either of those armies as a Custodes player, I'm not sure an unreliable CP battery inquisitor is worth those downsides.
   
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There's another strong build that rarely sees play but can surprise your opponent even at high tourney tables. Xeno inquisitor with a spell that makes his plasma henchmen untargetable.
   
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Bamberg / Erlangen

Sobie wrote:
I don't know if it's an overcorrection or not at this point, but the competitive scene are actively avoiding taking single utility psykers if they can because of Grey Knights and Thousand Sons. Against TS, it's essentially guranteeing them an auto-15 on Wrath of Magnus or whatever it's called to have one in your list and it locks you out of abhor the witch in both match ups.

If I have the chance of getting matched with either of those armies as a Custodes player, I'm not sure an unreliable CP battery inquisitor is worth those downsides.
The CP battery build has nothing to do with being a Psyker. It is just the Xenos Warlord trait.

   
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Perturbed Blood Angel Tactical Marine




The CP battery build has nothing to do with being a Psyker. It is just the Xenos Warlord trait.


I guess that's true. I've only ever encountered psyker inquisitors in the wild. I forgot they can come in non-psyker variety.

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Liche Priest Hierophant





Bergen

Xenos psyker to generate co. And the Calexu assassin to deny CP. Works like a charm.

   
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I personally like to throw in Inquisitor Coteaz with Arbiter of the Emperor's Will, giving him Alpha-Class Pskyer, taking Warding Incantation and Castigation or Mental Interrogation (depending on whether or not I think my opponents will be fielding close range characters), into IG lists and have him herding a couple Infantry or Conscripts squads onto objectives. The Unquestionable Wisdom ability is incredibly useful for keeping IG from failing moral checks, he serves well to Deny enemy Psykers with 2 Deny's, and he's also pretty good at range and melee himself, especially against his Quarry (Chaos and Daemon).

If you really just want the moral booster, a regular Inquisitor with Formidable Resolve doubles the range on Unquestioned Wisdom.

This will probably go great with the new Cadian Whiteshields Strat. Have him, a Primaris Psyker with Psychic Barrier and Nightshroud, and an officer (bonus points if Creed with Kell) move into mid objectives with 2 or 3 30-man Whiteshields and just castle up.

Not exactly the most competitive, but amusing and very fluffy.

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Made in au
Longtime Dakkanaut




Eh, I was pretty disappointed in seeing that the Inquisition rules in the new Warzone book was just a copy-paste.

Would have been nice to see something like:
- Some new generic relics.

- Some small point drops on the named characters. Only needs to be 5 - 10. Just to make them somewhat viable.

- The option to take an allied Inquisition Vanguard Detachment for no CP cost, as well as not breaking any doctrines. This would make Acolytes, Daemonhosts, and Jokaero Weaponsmiths at least fieldable.

That would have been enough for me to make me happy. Though I'd have liked some more cool Ordo Xenos things due to it being Octarius.

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I think you have to set aside reinforcement costs for it.
   
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Canada

Jarms48 wrote:
- The option to take an allied Inquisition Vanguard Detachment for no CP cost, as well as not breaking any doctrines. This would make Acolytes, Daemonhosts, and Jokaero Weaponsmiths at least fieldable.

As someone with 2 Jokaeros gathering dust, I'd love to see this.

   
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Seattle, WA

Dude. I have 12. I feel your pain.

 
   
 
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