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octarius sector squishin bugz

Recent as in this addition has been added to the general lore in the last 5 years. Doesn't have to been brand new lore, can just be updates that GW has on older lore.

Personally I have loved the War zone: Octarius. I am a Ork player and I adored almost everything that has been added to this conflict. Octarius has been on of these bits of lore that always caught my attention. A war of attrition between two armies that have limitless resources and feed off of each other. The fact that there are no name characters that truly matter just makes the entire thing
FUN.

There are somethings I wish were different. Wish we got to see more of the Ork vs Nids violence on ork held worlds. It was interesting to see how different the environments were for each named ork world. Also wish that the Octarius system did not fall. Would have prefer to seen the conflicts continued escalation between the 2 races that had grown past the originally borders, would have been interesting.

All in all I can understand why they 'ended' it the way they did. GW has hinted that the Octarian orks might be able to reach out to the Charadon empire and have a massive merging of the two empires into one. This might be able to bring a halt to the nid rampage that is currently happening. Another option is that good ole Ghazzy might redirect WAAAGH!!!s to help reinforce the 6 potential tyrants.


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In the rulebook there is a small section where multiple eldar factions work together with some natives on a planet to fight tyranids. The natives has the abilaty to travel in time, and it is an abilaty the tyranids must not be allive to sample!

   
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I liked that some of the first wave of Primaris were Astartes from just after the Heresy who had witnessed and known their Primarch fathers (well, most of them anyway). Guilliman is all well and good but having the perspective of Marines who witnessed the immediate aftermath of the Heresy who are then thrown into the "future" and forced to adjust is a good story hook IMO.
   
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 Niiai wrote:
In the rulebook there is a small section where multiple eldar factions work together with some natives on a planet to fight tyranids. The natives has the abilaty to travel in time, and it is an abilaty the tyranids must not be allive to sample!


The Imperial report section on that campaign suggests whether they might be Hrud, or have a similar effect, so not quite time travel but more like the Hrud accelerated entropy zone or rapid aging. The Eldar cared because somehow this ability makes it more difficult for the Farseers to track on the skeins of fate, and they didn't want the Tyranids to gain this ability.

To be honest, these kinds of xenos vs xenos campaigns I find more interesting now than the tired template of Imperium vs. threat, being beat back initially (IG and Imperial Navy being the punching bags) only to make a glorious comeback when <insert miracle of the Emperor> brings the SM/SoB/Custodes cavalry in to save the day.

willhman wrote:


All in all I can understand why they 'ended' it the way they did. GW has hinted that the Octarian orks might be able to reach out to the Charadon empire and have a massive merging of the two empires into one. This might be able to bring a halt to the nid rampage that is currently happening. Another option is that good ole Ghazzy might redirect WAAAGH!!!s to help reinforce the 6 potential tyrants.



Actually I saw GW dropping hints that Kryptman might get ahold of that Mekboy crown gadget and do something that disrupts the Tyranid Hive Mind coordination, at least temporarily or on a local scale, enough for the Orks or Imperium to make a comeback and "restore the balance" so to speak and create another stalemate, ableit one where the Imperium has been further eroded with more world losses.

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I really like the Primaris background.

It’s introduction was definitely a bit ham fisted, but for lore speculation it’s a rich resource (for instance, Cawl’s achievements shine a light on what the industrial capacity of the Imperium would be if, like Cawl experienced) the fruits of your labours weren’t immediately dispatched to a war zone.

A careful husbanding and reserving of your end product. Comparatively rare resources gathered over time (and we’re talking centuries if not millennia of production), ready to be unleashed en masse.

   
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I quite like the idea of the Imperium cut in half by a gigantic warp rift that's nearly impossible to cross, and the worlds on the "far side" falling back into Old Night as they are cut off from each other and the wider Imperium. I like the idea of the Imperium just getting absolutely chewed up and losing a huge chunk of space, it provides room for a lot of interesting stories and for little mini-empires and local leaders to be very important, which I think is core to the sort of "build your own dudes" background GW is good at.

   
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- Gellarpox infected

- Cawl wanting to use geneseed from ALL legions for his primaris

- Imperium getting ripped in half

- that one line about some eldar so desperate they made Nurgle daemons arrive (from DG Codex 8th, should reread it)

- stupid Deathwatch Space Marine killing Eldar who try to give birth to Ynnead which could kill Slaanesh

- Ynnead banning the rubric spell and making Ahriman cry because of it

- The war of the beast, though I didn't like how they solved it and that it was only 1 year or so, but the first books were pretty cool and really gave Orks some more "serious" background
   
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I really like the lore of the wolfspear chapter from white dwarf, enough that I'm starting a wolfspear army of my own.

Wolfspear's 2k
Harlequins 2k
Chaos Knights 2k
Spiderfangs 2k
Ossiarch Bonereapers 1k 
   
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 Da Boss wrote:
I quite like the idea of the Imperium cut in half by a gigantic warp rift that's nearly impossible to cross, and the worlds on the "far side" falling back into Old Night as they are cut off from each other and the wider Imperium. I like the idea of the Imperium just getting absolutely chewed up and losing a huge chunk of space, it provides room for a lot of interesting stories and for little mini-empires and local leaders to be very important, which I think is core to the sort of "build your own dudes" background GW is good at.


Yeah, probably this. 'Unknown space' was something the setting needed to have again. I expect them to screw it up (and Devastation of Baal ending with Roboute just showing up and handwaving Primaris replacements for the horrendous BA losses was a first step towards screwing it up), but it has a lot of potential for interesting local conflicts that the GREAT EPIC NARRATIVE just doesn't allow.

Though I'm not really a fan of the 'epic' scale of a galaxy wide rift. I'd be perfectly happy if they settled down for an area of space and just ran with conflicts over cities/regions and rarely escalating to planets.

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The existence of Space Wolves successors. Now, lemme qualify that. I'm not fine with the execution, where every Son of Russ seemingly hews to Fenrisian culture and organizational doctrine.

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 RaptorusRex wrote:
The existence of Space Wolves successors.


Funny story, I went about 20? 25? years without knowing that Space Woofs didn't have successors, despite being my primary army back in 2nd edition.
When it was 'confirmed' that the Wolf Brothers dissolved into goo, fell to chaos, got Worfed or whatever, and all others 'failed' in some fashion, all I thought was 'that was stupid' and ignored it.

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I think because the Successors are drawn from Astartes who went from being Space Wolves Greyshields to suddenly being Wolfspear or Astral Bears, there wasn't the cultural disconnect we see in the likes of the Emperor's Spears (Ultramarines) and Exorcists (Imperial Fists), nor was there the spirit of change brought about by the Horus Heresy for some of the Second Foundings, like the Black Templars and Red Talons.
In fact in Dark Imperium, one such Greyshield looks forward to rejoining the Rout but is confused and distraught at being sent to the Wolfspear instead.

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 RaptorusRex wrote:
The existence of Space Wolves successors. Now, lemme qualify that. I'm not fine with the execution, where every Son of Russ seemingly hews to Fenrisian culture and organizational doctrine.


My fifth edition space wolves where purple and orange.


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 Gert wrote:
I think because the Successors are drawn from Astartes who went from being Space Wolves Greyshields to suddenly being Wolfspear or Astral Bears, there wasn't the cultural disconnect we see in the likes of the Emperor's Spears (Ultramarines) and Exorcists (Imperial Fists), nor was there the spirit of change brought about by the Horus Heresy for some of the Second Foundings, like the Black Templars and Red Talons.
In fact in Dark Imperium, one such Greyshield looks forward to rejoining the Rout but is confused and distraught at being sent to the Wolfspear instead.


I guess.

I also guess I'd like for there to be more of a disconnect.

The thing about 40k is that no one person can grasp the fullness of it.

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TBF one of the "big things" about the Ultima Founding was a free pass on "Your Dudes", plus there's the whole 1000 Chapters but like 200 are known, and with the way Successor Chapters work, you don't need to use any of the Space Wolves rules if you don't want to but still use them as the Founders. The Wolfspear and Icefangs were just the easiest to come up with and follow the rough pattern of the Ultima Chapters being very similar to their Founding Chapters.

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France

Recently ? Nothing because nothing has been good since 5th edition. Or the FW black books stuff but that's not directly GW so...

   
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I really like Morven Vahl:

- I LOVE that the Sisterhood has a High Lord of Terra
- I love that they put her in place because they thought she'd be a puppet and she decided to lead Holy wars from the front instead
- I like that she is the Abbess of both convents
- I like that she's NOT OoOML

I also like the Paragon Warsuits- particularly the bit of fluff about the suit choosing its pilot
- I think it was VERY important that Sisters have a walker that works for those who are pure of faith

In the same vein, I love Mortifiers- I like the expansion of the penitent cult of the sisterhood; the distinction between mortifiers and penitent engines is an important one

I love the SoS being a part of the Indomitus Crusade- and I look forward to the new SoS HQ being tied to this phenomenon (I know they existed in 30k, and that technically, they've always been in the fluff, but it seems to me that their involvement in the Indomitus Crusade is what's bringing them out of the shadows and into active theatres of war)

I love Aleya, now that it has been announced she can fight without her boyfriend (which was the most backward thinking bit of rules GW had come up with; GOOD RIDDANCE!).

I like Torchbearer Fleets- particularly the Crusade rules created to facilitate their stories on the battlefield

I like Kyria Draxus, but I want more- she should have a personalized retinue (like Elucia Vhane's Starstriders) and a stronger backstory- the hooks are there- mini-dragon + MW shuri-cat- we just need more

I like the DE woman who dared to steal a stealth ship from Asdrubael Vect and fly it to the Blackstone Fortress, but I was crushed that they just gave her a ship card and not a mini, and I'm still kinda bitter about it.
   
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I've not kept up closely with new background developments, but I really like all the new Necromunda worldbuilding!

And Guilliman flogging the Paternova is both hilarious and fitting for the setting.

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I liked Typhus's campaign against Forgeworld Metallica. The last part was pretty nail biting.
   
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The fleshing out of genestealer cults from a few mentions in the tyranid codex into their own faction has provided a lot of cool details. My favourite being a full blown look into the mining equipment and makeshift weaponry available to rebels within a hive city.

Slightly older but fixing Abaddon to no longer be a useless git and instead being an actual threat (kinda) has been a relief.

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brainpsyk wrote:
I realized after typing the above post that there's a better way to describe the game. Normally the faction imbalance causes the players to turn against those bad factions. The game is so bad right now the players are turning against each other.

No, this is a normal Tuesday on Dakka.
 
   
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I like the Imperium being split too. It's one of those things where part of me wants to see more and part doesn't though.

Like, flesh out some details, but also leave space for people to come up with their own stories.
   
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That the Emperor being a god is a BAD thing and Bobby G might have to "end it". I feel like they are setting up a fight between Bobby and Big E. Where Bobby is convinced the warped and perverted dream of the Emperor has died, and the Emperor being a literal god now is the icing on the cake.
   
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Love the War of the Beast series, although it soon felt very rushed towards the end.
   
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 RaptorusRex wrote:
The existence of Space Wolves successors. Now, lemme qualify that. I'm not fine with the execution, where every Son of Russ seemingly hews to Fenrisian culture and organizational doctrine.


except they actually DON'T. the wolf spears are fascinating because they're so distinct.

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I'm a fan of the stuff ADB put out in Spear of the Emperor - it has the feel of one long epic last stand, lasting for decades if not centuries. Alone in the night without hope of relief. Proper grimdark.

Click for a Relictors short story: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/412814.page

And the sequels HERE and HERE

Final part's up HERE

 
   
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The most interesting recent lore bit for me was the elaboration on Kroot society in the Blackstone Fortress novel.
   
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 BertBert wrote:
The most interesting recent lore bit for me was the elaboration on Kroot society in the Blackstone Fortress novel.

As you have been enlightened, could you in turn enlighten?
   
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 Gert wrote:
 BertBert wrote:
The most interesting recent lore bit for me was the elaboration on Kroot society in the Blackstone Fortress novel.

As you have been enlightened, could you in turn enlighten?


It's basically a continuation of their assimilation of DNA by eating corpses. The kroot character in the novel was described as also absorbing the "soul" and knowledge of entities he had eaten, which he could then use to infer their motivation and preserve information about the blackstone fortress. Apparently, thousands of kroot are sent on such recovery missions to gather information for their species, which could have interesting implications considering the loss of knowledge is a central theme of 40k. Kroot could be an angle to bridge that issue to some extent and develop them into a more prominent faction of information brokers. It could also make for some unexpected reveal or change in the dynamic between Kroot and Tau. Not sure it will amount to anything, but I'm a bit of a kroot fanboi, so I'm crossing my fingers.

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Interesting, soul consumption through the eating of body parts. Like advanced cerebral cannibalism done by Space Marines.
   
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BrianDavion wrote:
 RaptorusRex wrote:
The existence of Space Wolves successors. Now, lemme qualify that. I'm not fine with the execution, where every Son of Russ seemingly hews to Fenrisian culture and organizational doctrine.


except they actually DON'T. the wolf spears are fascinating because they're so distinct.


Tell me you don't know what the Kin-Pack Declaration is without telling me.

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