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2021/12/06 11:23:38
Subject: Experiences with SioCast?
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Bane Knight
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Hey folks, given that SioCast is starting to make its way into the world, I wanted to reach out and see if anyone who had got their hands on some had any feedback/experiences that they would share.
Companies I know who are using it so far:
Plastic Soldier Company
Warlord (Warlord Resin https://www.warlordgames.com/warlord-resin-a-new-material/)
Corvus Belli
Creature Caster
DTR have also been doing a lot of training and are using the material I'm sure.
There may well be more as the SioCast folks are actively talking at shows etc, but I'm not interested in sales spiel, I want actual hobbyist feedback to find out if its the next step in mini casting or just another PVC/SpinCastResin/Finecast flash in the pan.
So, anyone have thoughts about it they want to share?
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2021/12/06 11:31:04
Subject: Re:Experiences with SioCast?
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Experienced Maneater
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I have the Nomad Drone from Beyond Crimson Stone (Infinity).
Absolutely hate it. Flash lines, lost details due to excessive material covering it. Fit between parts is not that great either. I'll rather have CB metal or proper resin.
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2021/12/06 12:15:00
Subject: Experiences with SioCast?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I wonder if the quality has more to do with the expertise in the mold makers each company employs than it does with the process itself.
Apparently, each company gets training on how to use the machines and make the molds, and i can see the mold making being a factor that could effect end result.
The tech is basically just injection molding, but into silicon molds and not metal molds.
And we all know not all plastic injection molds are equal. The progression of gw over the past 3 decades is evidence enough of that by themselves.
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2021/12/06 13:52:28
Subject: Experiences with SioCast?
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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Have some experience with it from a variety of the above sources. Hate that gak. As Hanskrampf said, awful flash, awful mold lines, and awful fit (as a result of shrinkage/warping due to the process). The material itself feels soft and rubbery and doesn't clean up well when you're working a knife on it.
I really don't think it has anything to do with individual skill of a moldmaker/caster, I think its just a gak process/product. Even the photos on the siocast site look like gak when they aren't showing you renders.
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2021/12/06 14:43:23
Subject: Experiences with SioCast?
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Villanous Scum
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I have the PSC British starter army for NorthAG and the models are pretty great, minimal mould lines, no flash and no mould slip. The flexibility is slightly annoying for things like tracks but is great for gun barrels.
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2021/12/06 17:13:45
Subject: Experiences with SioCast?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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I have some of the Last Sword stuff, which I believe is the same as SioCast, and it’s great. Not a lot of flash or lost detail, nor much shrinkage. It does require some hot water treatment for unbending sometimes.
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2021/12/06 17:32:10
Subject: Experiences with SioCast?
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Bane Knight
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BobtheInquisitor wrote:I have some of the Last Sword stuff, which I believe is the same as SioCast, and it’s great. Not a lot of flash or lost detail, nor much shrinkage. It does require some hot water treatment for unbending sometimes.
How was the mould line removal? That's my number one concern with the material.
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2021/12/06 18:02:03
Subject: Experiences with SioCast?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Isn't the Monster Fight Club Cyberpunk stuff SioCast?
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2021/12/06 18:13:31
Subject: Experiences with SioCast?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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chaos0xomega wrote:Have some experience with it from a variety of the above sources. Hate that gak. As Hanskrampf said, awful flash, awful mold lines, and awful fit (as a result of shrinkage/warping due to the process). The material itself feels soft and rubbery and doesn't clean up well when you're working a knife on it.
I really don't think it has anything to do with individual skill of a moldmaker/caster, I think its just a gak process/product. Even the photos on the siocast site look like gak when they aren't showing you renders.
So basically like reaper bones?
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2021/12/06 19:54:27
Subject: Experiences with SioCast?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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JonWebb wrote: BobtheInquisitor wrote:I have some of the Last Sword stuff, which I believe is the same as SioCast, and it’s great. Not a lot of flash or lost detail, nor much shrinkage. It does require some hot water treatment for unbending sometimes.
How was the mould line removal? That's my number one concern with the material.
I had to cut it rather than scrape it. It was a lot easier to cut than restic, but with a similar technique.
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2021/12/06 22:51:00
Subject: Experiences with SioCast?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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One of my concerns from viewing the various demos and stuff on BoW is that it looks like you need to put together a 'fill' program for each mould for time/temp/pressure
fine if your siocast running demos with stuff you've got spot on through extensive testing, but how much effort will companies actually make to fine tune production moulds when they've got loads to do and arn't going to want to bin loads of ok but not perfect attempts (especially when it's being sold on this will be cheaper to do than normal resin)
my guess is a lot of it will end up being done on a standard profile which will mean more mould lines than there could be
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2021/12/06 23:37:15
Subject: Experiences with SioCast?
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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to be fair thats true of hips molds too, its part of the process. More traditional resin and metal casting techniques are more forgiving but you still need to adjust volume/temp/pressure etc for each mold to get optimal results.
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