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Hi chaps,
My sons and I have started playing recently and we're getting into it but there are a few bits we're unclear on so I'm hoping someone can help us one thing at a time please?.. My questions is regarding which weapon you have to choose for a model to use.

In the Necron Warriors datasheet before the weapon section it says "Every model is equipped with: gauss flayer". In the WEAPON section there is a Gauss flayer and a Gauss reaper.

In the WARGEAR OPTIONS section it says "Any number of models can each have their gauss flayer replaced with 1 gauss reaper".

Can we just choose which weapon a model is using from WEAPON section or is it down to how the model was built as they came with both as an option.

Thanks a lot.
   
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You have to choose which weapon you want to arm your model with before the battle then you use the weapon profile that you chose. In your case you must decide before hand how many of your necron warriors will be armed with gauss flayers and how many will be using gauss reapers. If you are using points to determine your forces some weapons cost more than others so you must adjust the value of your units as appropriate.
   
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Fresh-Faced New User




Fantastic thanks very much.
   
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Confessor Of Sins





Tacoma, WA, USA

While not strongly written in the rules, the intent is that the model is armed with to be the actual weapon on the model. There are different physical guns to place on models for the Gauss Flayer and the Gauss Reaper. Some units allows you to mix weapons between members of the unit (Necron Warriors) while others require a higher level of uniformity (Necron Immortals).

Naturally, you are allowed to play those however you and your gaming partner(s) like, but that is not GWs intent.
   
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Fresh-Faced New User




That makes sense thanks. When we put the models together we still didn’t really understand the complexities of each weapon. So just did a mixture so they looked good..

Now you point that out I notice the difference in the two options. Necron warriors say “Any number” and the immortals say “All”. Which had passed me by before.

Thanks.
   
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch




dorset

OldMatey wrote:
That makes sense thanks. When we put the models together we still didn’t really understand the complexities of each weapon. So just did a mixture so they looked good..

Now you point that out I notice the difference in the two options. Necron warriors say “Any number” and the immortals say “All”. Which had passed me by before.

Thanks.


Its all good. as others have said, your "supposed" to choose what weapon the model has when you build him, and while at the completive, tourney playing level people might object (they tend to play "what you see is what you get", or WYSIWYG), the rest of us are not so bothered as to which of the options a model might be given, so long as we know what it has rules wise. So if you just tell us at the start "this squad here has all guass flayers.", then we are happy, especially with new players who are learning the rules and experimenting.

we're somewhat more picky with some specific units like, for example, space marine tactical squads, where the loadout can be very variable and we'd like to be clear on what exactly it is carrying and what we are facing. Even then, so long as its clear we're not too bothered. my last 40K game I had a bunch of thousand sons rubrics being represented by a squad of deathwatch veterans i had on hand, just to get the numbers up.

on the note of tac squads, i'd just like to point out, if you didnt already know, that weapons are targeted on a "per weapon" basis, so, for example, a predator tank with a anti-tank main gun and 2 side mounted heavy bolters can target all 3 guns at different units if it wanted to. likewise a squad of 10 guys, with one bloke carrying a missile launcher, can shoot thier bolters at infantry and the missile into a tank.

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Fresh-Faced New User




Oh no I didn't realise that, thanks.

And using models to represent others in the short term is a great idea thanks - we have the command edition and an old 8th edition set so we can use the models from that old set to beef what we have without having to fork out more money in the short term(and experiment with the various units).

Thanks, appreciate your time!

   
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dorset

OldMatey wrote:
Oh no I didn't realise that, thanks.

And using models to represent others in the short term is a great idea thanks - we have the command edition and an old 8th edition set so we can use the models from that old set to beef what we have without having to fork out more money in the short term(and experiment with the various units).

Thanks, appreciate your time!



your welcome. the targeting thing was added a few years ago in an edition change, and never used to be the case, so i thought it was worth pointing out.

using models to proxy has a long and storied history in warhammer, and its very useful as a way to experiment and gain experience in the game and what works before shelling out significant amounts of cash on things you then find your not using.

and your always welcome to ask questions if you so desire. or pop to your local warhammer culb (i see your UK based, like me. so thiers plenty of places around), most of them do starter games and such to help explain rules, or tables for a more organised gaming area, etc.


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To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of technology and science, for so much has been forgotten, never to be relearned. Forget the promise of progress and understanding, for in the grim dark future there is only war. There is no peace amongst the stars, only an eternity of carnage and slaughter, and the laughter of thirsting gods.

Coven of XVth 2000pts
The Blades of Ruin 2,000pts Watch Company Rho 1650pts
 
   
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Fresh-Faced New User




Thanks I may well be asking more questions. We do have a shop nearby but it's a pain getting there so we've tried to teach ourselves. Definitely playing a game with someone who already plays would iron out a lot of the questions we have so I'll see if we can all get over there at some point.
   
 
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