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2022/09/29 11:54:13
Subject: James Workshop on Votann
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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2022/09/29 12:02:42
Subject: Re:James Workshop on Votann
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2022/09/29 12:07:02
Subject: James Workshop on Votann
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Leader of the Sept
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Wow... is that the fastest invalidation of codex information ever?
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Please excuse any spelling errors. I use a tablet frequently and software keyboards are a pain!
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2022/09/29 12:07:35
Subject: James Workshop on Votann
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Dakka Veteran
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That video is amazing. 😂
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2022/09/29 12:08:02
Subject: Re:James Workshop on Votann
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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League of Votann Points Values The Errata only has a single entry: Page 86 – Eye of the Ancestors, 5th paragraph Change to read: ‘Note, if an attack automatically wounds the target as the result of this ability, then for the purposes of any other rules that are triggered on a particular wound roll, that attack is never considered to have been made with an unmodified wound roll of 6.’ Flinty wrote:Wow... is that the fastest invalidation of codex information ever?
Nope. Space Wolves have had an FAQ before release (Sagas, IIRC).
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2022/09/29 12:10:00
Subject: James Workshop on Votann
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Games Workshop wrote:We've got a devoted rules team, and an amazing group of playtesters, but even after a rigorous testing period, sometimes we miss things that a passionate world-wide community of hundreds of thousands will quickly spot.
I don't believe you. I don't believe that a group who has been doing this one thing for this long can be so bad at this at such a consistent level.
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2022/09/29 12:11:03
Subject: James Workshop on Votann
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Boooo on getting it wrong.
Good show for acknowledging, apologising and doing something about it. Note I didn’t say fixing. That remains to be seen.
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2022/09/29 12:11:54
Subject: James Workshop on Votann
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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They're doing something because places are banning their new army they want people to buy.
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2022/09/29 12:12:23
Subject: James Workshop on Votann
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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Oh wow, a day 1 patch for a 60 dollar book. GW is truly the EA of Wargames.
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What I have
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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2022/09/29 12:12:50
Subject: James Workshop on Votann
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Dakka Veteran
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Flinty wrote:Wow... is that the fastest invalidation of codex information ever?
No, Space Wolves hold that honour where by GW published a replacement for their 8th edition warlord traits 1 week prior to release.
Edit: Also, where is the Daemons FAQ? :(
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2022/09/29 12:14:48
Subject: James Workshop on Votann
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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They should scap the codex and reprint it with the new points values (and added paragraph), and offer a trade in for buyers stuck with the LE codex from the army box)
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2022/09/29 12:15:43
Subject: James Workshop on Votann
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Leader of the Sept
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Thanks Beasts and Jake for the info. Looks like the Space Puppies will be hard to beat on that front.
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Please excuse any spelling errors. I use a tablet frequently and software keyboards are a pain!
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2022/09/29 12:16:50
Subject: James Workshop on Votann
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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JakeSiren wrote: Flinty wrote:Wow... is that the fastest invalidation of codex information ever?
No, Space Wolves hold that honour where by GW published a replacement for their 8th edition warlord traits 1 week prior to release.
Edit: Also, where is the Daemons FAQ? :(
Has the daemon book out month? The period faq's for new books wait as default.
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2022/09/29 12:19:44
Subject: James Workshop on Votann
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Games Workshop wrote:We've got a devoted rules team, and an amazing group of playtesters, but even after a rigorous testing period, sometimes we miss things that a passionate world-wide community of hundreds of thousands will quickly spot.
I don't believe you.
I don't believe that a group who has been doing this one thing for this long can be so bad at this at such a consistent level.
But they made a funny video! They said they're listening! I love NuGW!
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2022/09/29 12:22:29
Subject: James Workshop on Votann
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Arbitrator wrote:But they made a funny video! They said they're listening! I love NuGW!
I just can't get this out of my head now.
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2022/09/29 12:24:24
Subject: James Workshop on Votann
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Codex: Zoats confirmed!
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2022/09/29 12:26:00
Subject: James Workshop on Votann
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
The dark hollows of Kentucky
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Games Workshop wrote:We've got a devoted rules team, and an amazing group of playtesters, but even after a rigorous testing period, sometimes we miss things that a passionate world-wide community of hundreds of thousands will quickly spot.
I don't believe you.
I don't believe that a group who has been doing this one thing for this long can be so bad at this at such a consistent level.
Yeaahhh......how many decades of practice do they need? The company has been doing 40k rules for 35 years now, and wargame rules in general for longer. You'd think that they'd have some sort of system by now. I find it hard to believe that they don't know just how strong things like auto-wounding mechanics are at this point.
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2022/09/29 12:26:27
Subject: James Workshop on Votann
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Regular Dakkanaut
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H.B.M.C. wrote:They're doing something because places are banning their new army they want people to buy.
People keep bringing this up, but isn't this standard practice in the Germany Tournament scene? No new codex until the FAQ is out.
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2022/09/29 12:27:35
Subject: James Workshop on Votann
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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H.B.M.C. wrote:They're doing something because places are banning their new army they want people to buy.
Why talk about pre banning a really poorly written book? To get this response.
GW wrote:We’re sorry we didn’t get these rules right out of the gate.
And we’ll fix it.
I don't remember them apologising before. Previously they would always try to pretend it was somehow someone else's fault (usually the players).This is a really good development. Hopefully a sign of a culture shift in the company.
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2022/09/29 12:27:42
Subject: James Workshop on Votann
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tneva82 wrote:JakeSiren wrote: Flinty wrote:Wow... is that the fastest invalidation of codex information ever?
No, Space Wolves hold that honour where by GW published a replacement for their 8th edition warlord traits 1 week prior to release.
Edit: Also, where is the Daemons FAQ? :(
Has the daemon book out month? The period faq's for new books wait as default.
It came out on the 3rd of September, so I guess two more days makes 4 weeks. I'm just feeling down on how the Daemons release was handled, and given the lack of excitement for the Daemons tactica thread, it doesn't seem like I'm the only one.
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2022/09/29 12:29:34
Subject: James Workshop on Votann
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Comparing a company that did massive damage to the planet, to one that wrote a not particularly good book is some next level hyperbole.
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2022/09/29 12:30:10
Subject: James Workshop on Votann
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Foxy Wildborne
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Darn, there goes Mantic's biggest edge
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2022/09/29 12:31:15
Subject: James Workshop on Votann
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Funny video, but what does he say at around 1:51 "And Molly is supposed to be alive at christmas anyway"?
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2022/09/29 12:33:08
Subject: James Workshop on Votann
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Might you be in the market for a bridge, good sir?
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2022/09/29 12:34:00
Subject: James Workshop on Votann
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The Daemon Possessing Fulgrim's Body
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Gadzilla666 wrote: H.B.M.C. wrote:Games Workshop wrote:We've got a devoted rules team, and an amazing group of playtesters, but even after a rigorous testing period, sometimes we miss things that a passionate world-wide community of hundreds of thousands will quickly spot.
I don't believe you.
I don't believe that a group who has been doing this one thing for this long can be so bad at this at such a consistent level.
Yeaahhh......how many decades of practice do they need? The company has been doing 40k rules for 35 years now, and wargame rules in general for longer. You'd think that they'd have some sort of system by now. I find it hard to believe that they don't know just how strong things like auto-wounding mechanics are at this point.
Balance isn't the objective, the objective is constant flux. The only thing here that's not working as intended is they've pushed the limit a little too far that they've decided the push back may impact sales and walked it back.
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2022/09/29 12:34:05
Subject: James Workshop on Votann
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Chikout wrote:Comparing a company that did massive damage to the planet, to one that wrote a not particularly good book is some next level hyperbole.
That rushing air noise is the point sailing over your head at alarming speeds.
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2022/09/29 12:34:39
Subject: James Workshop on Votann
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Charging Wild Rider
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Games Workshop wrote:We’re sorry we didn’t get these rules right out of the gate.
Hadn't expected to mark off "Games Workshop apologizing" on my 2022 Signs of the Apocalypse Bingo, but here we are.
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2022/09/29 12:35:01
Subject: Re:James Workshop on Votann
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Using Object Source Lighting
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One rule errata fair enough but so many points updates? What the hell is going on!
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2022/09/29 12:36:26
Subject: Re:James Workshop on Votann
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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NAVARRO wrote:One rule errata fair enough but so many points updates? What the hell is going on!
Az got it in one:
Azreal13 wrote:... [they] pushed the limit a little too far that they've decided the push back may impact sales and walked it back.
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2022/09/29 12:36:33
Subject: James Workshop on Votann
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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Drong wrote:Funny video, but what does he say at around 1:51 "And Molly is supposed to be alive at christmas anyway"?
And I'm only supposed to be alive at Christmas anyway
It's a play on the fact that James Workshop videos generally only appear at Christmas.
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