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In regards to the Mechanicus, If a tech priest is wounded who performs surgeries on them. Furthermore, if a tech-priest or something needs an upgrade which requires surgery who does it? Is it other tech priests, is it a tech-priest Dominus? Do they borrow a human surgeon or an apothecary?

There are sub-factions that deal with biology, such as the Genetors, and they would handle that kind of thing.

Yeah, a tech priest with the appropriate specialization.

A human surgeon is likely right out (either couldn't do it or they'd kill the human for brushing against secrets they aren't allowed to know)

Apothecary would depend. Iron Hand or other chapter with close Ad Mech ties might be deemed acceptable.

I’m sure normal human surgeons would be tolerated under most circumstances in order to prevent death. Just depends on how urgent it all is. Guard surgeons will have to deal with augmented humans all the time. Even civilian surgeons would probably be highly familiar with bionics because if you have the technology base on a planet to have proper surgeons, then you oronably have the tech base to have widespread bionics to keep the workers grinding along.

I've generally been under the impression that there's a distinct line between normal bionics and tech priest augmetics that's pretty difficult to cross. Especially without the 'religious' training that goes along with the Ad Mech approach to things.

The flesh is weak, call in a mechanic

I can see the religious aspect. For ceremonial functions, important upgrades and complicated stuff, I can see it being restricted to admech surgeons only, but I dont see emergency surgery being that restricted.

On the other hand, dogmatic types can be dogmatic.

Voss wrote:
I've generally been under the impression that there's a distinct line between normal bionics and tech priest augmetics that's pretty difficult to cross. Especially without the 'religious' training that goes along with the Ad Mech approach to things.

My understanding was that guard doc's are basically taught how to attach bionics so that they interact with your nervous system more or less correctly, but that modifications/repairs to the bionic itself were more tech priest territory. But that's for non-admech humans. A tech priest in need of new bionics or repairs would almost certainly wait until a properly specialized tech priest was available to perform the operation unless the situation was life or death. A critically-wounded tech priest with the right tools would probably prefer to perform repairs/surgeries on himself rather than trust a non-admech sawbones. It probably gets a bit more uncertain when you're talking about barely-augmented priests who don't have the ability to turn off their pain receptors and a bunch of high-precision mechadendrites with which to dig around in wounds for shrapnel.

Little known fact: when the imperial guard deploys it is actually the adeptus mechanicus job to provide them with immunity for local diseases. Usually this involves mass medical treatment through vaccines administered by machines. It’s explained and talked about in the Shira Calpurnia series. You would think it should be the job of the adeptus administratum.

Nah the Administratum is for paperwork. The Magos Biologis of the Mechanicus have the resources required to conduct medical studies on a level that Guard surgeons and medics or even Imperial medical practitioners couldn't hope to achieve.

Well. Yes. They do.

Consider Skitarii and their manifold augmetics, including Hand-Me-Down Lungs and that.

Those are installed by Tech Priests. Not necessarily high level ones I suspect, but Tech Priests nonetheless. And that is most definitely surgery.

What miniature would capture the Magos Biologis or a genetor well?

I am trying to make a mini that represents one but I am having trouble with the color scheme and the mini itself. Would it be like an apothecary and be all white? Or would it look like a regular tech priest and just be the same color as the army? ? ?

Biologis/Genetor is a fairly broad catagorization, its just a Tech Priest that has a specialization in Biology. So they could be a general medic, they could be a Xeno-biologist, they could be a specialized implant surgeon, they could be a genetic researcher, etc...

I bet a Medic focused Genetor would have some white accents as that seems to be the Imperium's standard indicator of a medic/doctor.

 Grey Templar wrote:
Biologis/Genetor is a fairly broad catagorization, its just a Tech Priest that has a specialization in Biology. So they could be a general medic, they could be a Xeno-biologist, they could be a specialized implant surgeon, they could be a genetic researcher, etc...

I bet a Medic focused Genetor would have some white accents as that seems to be the Imperium's standard indicator of a medic/doctor.

So would buying a tech-priest enginseer and painting it white be appropriate you think?

White robes with red medicae trim, or a white shoulder pad with a medicae symbol on it.