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Considering the special artwork on the boxes I tend to agree with my friend that these were probably originally meant for a larger release alongside a new and updated Space Marine codex.
Nothing really exciting in these boxes unless you are about to start a specific Space Marine army.
January points changes to space marines will probably shift a few of these. Then the rest will sit around on shelves until the updated marine supplements land.
Eldarsif wrote: Considering the special artwork on the boxes
Erm, it's not special. Half of it is years old, so I suspect the rest was commissioned for the SM supplements too, just didn't made the cut.
Lord Damocles wrote: I like how in the White Scars box everyone gets a bike... except Khan.
I'd say the fact this "battleforce" has only 10 models (and not even any big ones) it's even more conspicuous...
H.B.M.C. wrote: How many times does a clock have to be right before people stop assuming it's broken?
Except he was comically wrong again considering A) other source claimed the boxes first, so as usual the rumor was stolen, B) he initially claimed they will drop all at once with the codex (not staggered and without it), a mistake someone clueless blindly guessing would make. So yeah, if you ignore all the inconvenient bit and move the clock hands halfway through the face he was totes right. So when I can buy this plastic warhound titan he claims will drop any day now from midway through 7th edition?
But, fine, I give up, people want to sockpuppet for him, no skin off my back. Just hope the boots taste nice, at least. I will just have a laugh when it turns out the rest of the stuff he was spewing was wrong too (say, it's Sanguinor not Dante dropping and he will be ""vindicated"" with dumb claims mistaking one for the other was uNdErStAnDaBLe like in Vash case where he got every single thing wrong like usual)
Well, this kind of explains why Imperial Fists and Raven Guard Battleforces had different artwork than other x-mas Battleforces. I wonder if they become available again too.
That place is the harsh dark future far left with only war left.
The special characters are a bit of a hit on the discount unless you actually want to do those chapters, as they were for the Imperial Fists and Raven Guard ones, but if I didn't already have plenty of the relevant models I'd be tempted to get one of the boxes. I could get some use out of three of the four boxes. That's pretty decent considering I don't like Phobos or jump Primaris, but they've all been stuffed in the Raven Guard box so they won't bother anyone. Not bad.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Love the out-of-place on foot character in the White Scar box. Peak GW silliness there.
You are the silly one here, that man obvious needs a Thunderhawk/Storm Eagle or whatever is the "correct" choice these days
Remember the old Siege of Terra diorama with the real Khan riding a Rhino? That's why Khan Junior doesn't have a bike, so you can mount him on a Primaris pickup emulating his dad.
Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
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The longer I look at these models, the worse they look to me. Safe to say I'm not a fan of Primaris. Even the iconography and honourifics look silly and stormcasty
Cool. Nice of them to give you white scar upgrades in their box, despite the majority of the models being easy to build and don’t allow for easy customization
These do really feel like they were lined up and ready to drop with a new round of codex supplements.
Value on these is a little odd. For the most part, the are hard skew boxes. With named characters. Like the RG and IF ones, which doubled down on phobos and heavy intercessors, you get IH (Dreads!) WS (Bikes!). The Salamander and Ultramarine ones are a little more balanced. Although they are still in the “you don’t want a duplicate” camp. Ultras due to the double named characters, and Salamanders due to how many intercessors do you need?
With the content how many of these are playable boxes? Good for a starting player? (mostly no) But if you are adding to an existing collection you probably already have some of the kits in the box, and due to the focused nature you might find yourself with more than you need.
They might be fine as a second step, where someone only has half a starter, or a start collecting/combat patrol. But I don’t see a lot of broad appeal on these.
GaroRobe wrote: Cool. Nice of them to give you white scar upgrades in their box, despite the majority of the models being easy to build and don’t allow for easy customization
Makes the lack of the upgrade sprue in the Raven Guard set even stranger though.
Nevelon wrote: These do really feel like they were lined up and ready to drop with a new round of codex supplements.
They really do.
GaroRobe wrote: Cool. Nice of them to give you white scar upgrades in their box, despite the majority of the models being easy to build and don’t allow for easy customization
Really not impressed by any of these boxes. But then, between these and the other battleforces, it feels like they're really trying to aim at new players, what with including named characters and all that. Ultimately, no skin off my nose. Hardly need any more space marine models.
I wouldn't be surprised if it came to light that these were supposed to go alongside updated supplements. But here we are, still waiting for the rest of the Guard and World Eaters and by the time we get those it'll only be like 4-5 months before 10th, and having supplements or a codex out for that short a time would be a particularly rough slap in the face.
I am tempted by the Salamanders box…I do want to paint a new successor chapter and I have pretty much no Intercessors (first one was White Scars successor).
H.B.M.C. wrote: You really hate Valrak. Dude lives rent free in your head.
To be fair, it's only natural to hate Valrak. He's a vacuous puff of nothing.
He’s a decent source of rumours, and other folk fine him entertaining.
It could be a British Humour thing. We tend to be into stuff other people don’t find funny. I mean, Mrs Brown’s Boys has its fans in Britain. and that’s crap.
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drbored wrote: Really not impressed by any of these boxes. But then, between these and the other battleforces, it feels like they're really trying to aim at new players, what with including named characters and all that. Ultimately, no skin off my nose. Hardly need any more space marine models.
I wouldn't be surprised if it came to light that these were supposed to go alongside updated supplements. But here we are, still waiting for the rest of the Guard and World Eaters and by the time we get those it'll only be like 4-5 months before 10th, and having supplements or a codex out for that short a time would be a particularly rough slap in the face.
Irbis wrote: Erm, it's not special. Half of it is years old, so I suspect the rest was commissioned for the SM supplements too, just didn't made the cut.
Special compared to the non-Marine army boxes, which just featured model shots rather than a unified style with artwork.
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