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I do not play warhammer often, but love painting up the miniatures for display and for the fun of painting. However, I also really like the idea of having my armies be playable if I was to ever join a tournament at a convention or gw store. This had not been a problem, until I recently got into kitbashing.

I was wondering, do you have any tips for keeping kitbashing to tournament legal standards?


For examples of recent kitbashes I am worried about:


This crypt horror was inspired by the idea that crypt horrors think they are knights, but doesn't have any crypt horror parts, doesn't look anything like a crypt horror, and doesn't have the right weapon: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/935636024745398285/1063696782288244856/20230113_214718.jpg?width=554&height=673


This crypt ghoul looks extremely skeletal and not very ghoulish: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/935636024745398285/1063696781696827462/20230113_215029.jpg

this crypt ghoul looks entirely different but I was planning to use it in the same unit: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/935636024745398285/1063696782003023914/20230113_214828.jpg


Are models like those okay at most gw stores and tournaments? Any tips for keeping future kitbashes legal for most modes of play?
   
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A great video on the topic, covers a lot of the nuances that come with this sort of thing:

Some of the key pointers - I think - are getting the size comparable to what they are meant to be and getting the weapons to be recognizable. You can be a bit flexible with these ghoul-types when it comes to weapons though; random claws and clubs are pretty generic, so I think any random assortment of ugly looking melee weapons look fine as proxies.

From what you posted, in my opinion:

Knight-Horror: The most questionable one, but I wouldn't have any issues with it. Knowing the size would help though; if it would make sense on the 50mm bases that Crypt Horrors come with, then that would make it pretty acceptable.

Skeleton Ghoul: Wouldn't look twice at this on the tabletop. Cool conversion that is an obvious crypt ghoul to my eyes.

Zombie Ghoul: If it's mixed in with a unit of other similar models and Skeleton Ghouls it'd fit right in. It could cause confusion if another unit of Zombies was in the same army maybe, but it would pass otherwise. It's easier to get away with horde-type units being a bit variant I think.

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shmvo wrote:


A great video on the topic, covers a lot of the nuances that come with this sort of thing:

Some of the key pointers - I think - are getting the size comparable to what they are meant to be and getting the weapons to be recognizable. You can be a bit flexible with these ghoul-types when it comes to weapons though; random claws and clubs are pretty generic, so I think any random assortment of ugly looking melee weapons look fine as proxies.

From what you posted, in my opinion:

Knight-Horror: The most questionable one, but I wouldn't have any issues with it. Knowing the size would help though; if it would make sense on the 50mm bases that Crypt Horrors come with, then that would make it pretty acceptable.

Skeleton Ghoul: Wouldn't look twice at this on the tabletop. Cool conversion that is an obvious crypt ghoul to my eyes.

Zombie Ghoul: If it's mixed in with a unit of other similar models and Skeleton Ghouls it'd fit right in. It could cause confusion if another unit of Zombies was in the same army maybe, but it would pass otherwise. It's easier to get away with horde-type units being a bit variant I think.



Just got allerted to this! Thank you for the indepth response, I tottaly see what your saying, I will focus on making the weapons accurate! thank you!
   
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Might also be worth noting that if you want to use kitbashed models in GW tournaments or at GW stores, they'll most likely require kitbashed parts to all be from GW models. I believe they're fine with alternative heads from other manufacturers, but you might want to look into that yourself as I'm not 100% on that.

I've heard tales of some store owners even refusing models that have green-stuff-ed parts, as they can't guarantee they're not parts from alternate models/manufacturers. Seems fairly petty if that's true, though. Perhaps they were just particularly officious store owners...
   
 
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