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Ill start off by saying yes I understand most if not all soldiers of the imperium worship the emperor of man as almost God like, and that the inquisition and holy ordos basically even worship the emperor against his will.

That being said, for like ur standard primaris psycher, astropath, and wyrdvane psychers their brethren (which are rare among humans) being persecuted be the Imperium and sent off in black ships to be human sacrifices for the emperor; in addition I think all astra-militarum psychers are tortured heavily to survive long enough to not become human sacrifices for the emperor and his golden throne; Must, way heavily on their fervor to serve with blind willingness for the emperor of man.

I dont follow the books, mostly just get my lore from youtube, and this perplexes me. Like say a glorious moment for the emperor of man happens and the whole army is getting rallied up, would the psychers just be apathetic to the rally? Perhaps this is too much for the lore writers at GW to write on a psychological level and they just skip the topic for now.

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 Gert wrote:
Imperial Psykers tend to be miserable people anyway. Life as a slave where you also have a really high chance of being shot every day will do that to a person.


This. A privileged noble or high-ranking officer who displayed psychic powers would either be trained to serve as a sanctioned psyker or simply shot. The Emperor's lunch comes from the slums, where life is miserable anyway and being rounded up and sent away on a prison ship isn't really any different from being rounded up and used as slave labor in the factories. Either way you're still poor, starving, and subject to brutal discipline by a system that doesn't care if you live or die. They probably wouldn't even know their fate until the Emperor begins to consume them.

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There's a faction of psykers in Dark Heresy who, knowing that the Emperor was a pysker, think of themselves as closer to him than the common throng of humanity. They're generally insufferably smug.
   
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Indeed. One of the astropaths in one of the black library novels (possibly the enforcer books) gives a sororitas quite a telling off for using the word 'witch' despite him being a sanctioned psyker, pointing out that when *she's* judged spirituality pure enough to be allowed into the throne room of her god in person she can fling insults at him, not before.

She doesn't take it with particularly good grace but the point is hard to argue with.

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Aecus Decimus wrote:
 Gert wrote:
Imperial Psykers tend to be miserable people anyway. Life as a slave where you also have a really high chance of being shot every day will do that to a person.


This. A privileged noble or high-ranking officer who displayed psychic powers would either be trained to serve as a sanctioned psyker or simply shot. The Emperor's lunch comes from the slums, where life is miserable anyway and being rounded up and sent away on a prison ship isn't really any different from being rounded up and used as slave labor in the factories. Either way you're still poor, starving, and subject to brutal discipline by a system that doesn't care if you live or die. They probably wouldn't even know their fate until the Emperor begins to consume them.

No, the privileged noble still gets slung into the Blackship with the rest of them, unless they use their privilige to escape the system and technically go rogue. The only legal alternatives to the League of Blackships for psykers are to be inducted into the Inquisition or to be an aspirant to a Space Marine Chapter and join the Librarius if the individual survives initiation. These are rare events and unlikely to happen to a noble, and not something a noble's power has any meaningful sway over.

The decision on whether a psyker is killed outright, fed to the astronomican, trained into a sanctioned psyker, or taken as a GK aspirant is based on ability and mental fortitude, not class. A commoner with great ability and self-control is more likely to become a sanctioned psyker than a weak noble vulnerable to possession. The only exception is the specific, heritable mutation of the Navigators, who are organised into powerful noble dynasties.

Frankly, for a small subset of psykers from the lowest classes, being taken by the Blackships will actually improve their lives. A little.

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 Gert wrote:
Imperial Psykers tend to be miserable people anyway. Life as a slave where you also have a really high chance of being shot every day will do that to a person.

Depends on their place in the chain of command. Many Inquisitors are powerful psykers, and are influential enough not to worry about a commissar blowing their brains out if they sneeze funny. And of course, there's also Librarians and Grey Knights.

I could imagine a psychic Inquisitor still harboring some resentment about the way they were treated. Although of course, if they managed to get promoted that high, they've likely kept that resentment quiet.


locarno24 wrote:
Indeed. One of the astropaths in one of the black library novels (possibly the enforcer books) gives a sororitas quite a telling off for using the word 'witch' despite him being a sanctioned psyker, pointing out that when *she's* judged spirituality pure enough to be allowed into the throne room of her god in person she can fling insults at him, not before.

She doesn't take it with particularly good grace but the point is hard to argue with.

Hah. Nice. I love it when the self-righteous are put in their place.

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Those are exceptions to the rule and it doesn't really need saying that the elite super secret all Psyker Marine Chapter doesn't have to worry about being executed daily.
But on the topic of altered or high ranking human Psykers. Marine Librarians are under constant vigilance from their Battle Brothers and Chaplains especially, that's one of the main roles of the office.
As for Inquisitors with psychic abilities, Puritans often purge Psykers and Inquisitorial conflicts are really common.
Both types of Psyker might get to avoid the worst of the Imperium's hatred but they are never free from the danger.
   
 
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