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Made in us
Chosen Baal Sec Youngblood



New Albany, IN

Here is my list please tear it apart lol.


Arks of Omen Detachment (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [105 PL, 2CP, 2,000pts]

]Arks of Omen Compulsory Type: Elites


Legion: Black Legion

HQ

Abaddon the Despoiler [15 PL, -1CP, 350pts]: 3. Merciless Overseer, 5. Eternal Vendetta, 6. Paragon of Hatred, Stratagem: Warlord Trait

Master of Possession [7 PL, -1CP, 120pts]: Eye of Tzeentch, Mark of Tzeentch, Mutated Invigoration, Pact of Flesh, Stratagem: Relic

Troops

Legionaries [7 PL, 105pts]:Mark of Tzeentch
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Power axe
. 3x Legionary w/ astartes chainsword: 3x Astartes chainsword, 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Frag & Krak grenades
. Legionary w/ special weapon: Meltagun

Elites

Chaos Terminator Squad [10 PL, -1CP, 225pts]:Mark of Slaanesh
. Chaos Terminator: Power fist, Reaper autocannon
. Chaos Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist
. Chaos Terminator: Accursed weapon, Combi-melta
. Chaos Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist
. Terminator Champion: Accursed weapon, Black Rune of Damnation, Combi-bolter, Trophies of the Long War

Master of Executions [5 PL, -1CP, 80pts]: 4. Soul-eater, Aspiring Lord, Mark of Khorne

Plague Marines [7 PL, 110pts]
. Plague Champion: Boltgun, Daemonic plague blade
. 3x Plague Marine w/ boltgun: 3x Blight Grenades, 3x Boltgun, 3x Krak Grenades, 3x Plague knife
. Plague Marine w/ special weapon: Plasma gun

Possessed [7 PL, 140pts]: Possessed Champion
. 4x Possessed: 4x Hideous mutations

Heavy Support

Chaos Land Raider [14 PL, 265pts]:Combi-melta, Havoc launcher

Defiler [10 PL, 175pts]: Combi-melta, Defiler scourge, Reaper autocannon

Obliterators [15 PL, 270pts]
. 3x Obliterator: 3x Crushing fists, 3x Fleshmetal guns

Dedicated Transport

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 80pts]: Combi-melta, Havoc launcher
Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 80pts]: Combi-melta, Havoc launcher

Total: [105 PL, 2CP, 2,000pts]

So this is what im running with so far but i think/know some changes need to be made but i dont know where and what.
I would like some help with this C&C is welcome, even if it has to be a whole new list.
   
Made in us
Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes




Dallas, Tx

Personally I don't like Master of Executions (MoE) in any legion besides Word Bearers since they get reroll hits and you can fish for 6's using that.

What are your secondaries? The first rule when building comp lists is to build with those in mind since you will win or lose games based on that.

For me the terminators are a go big or go home approach to taking them. Personally, I'd drop the land raider and beef up the squad to 10 if you're going to invest in them. Chosen are good too IMO as an alternative to terminators and cheaper. But you need an apostle for that, something i would definitely add to the list to replace the MoE.

Lastly, I like havocs over oblits especially since you can give them exploding 6's first turn using the slaanesh strat. Or just run them with chaincannons and mow stuff down.
This also frees up points to beef up your possessed squad size if you want.

Hope this helps, happy hunting.

ToW armies I own:
Empire: 10,000+
Chaos Legions: DoC- 10,000+; WoC- 7,500+; Beastmen- 2,500+; Chaos Dwarves- 3,500+
Unaligned: Ogres- 2,500; Tomb Kings- 3,000
Hotek: Dark Elves- 7,500+; High Elves- 2,500
40k armies I own:
CSM- 25,000+  
   
Made in us
Sinister Chaos Marine



Spartanburg, South Carolina

seconded on ditching the Land Raider. Put whatever you're transporting into strategic reserve....greater reinforcement options without having to pay for all that land raider. Ditch the crab unless you feel strongly about him. Poor performing, difficult to maneuver around terrain, and difficult to keep safe from LOS.

As Nathan said, go big or go home, especially on the terminators. Black rune on 5 terminators is a waste of that relic, should be on a 10 man squad to maximize it's potential. Abaddon dishing out reroll hits and wounds to all those combi-bolters goes a long way. Couple that with the daemonshells strat and you can eradicate most things through sheer firepower.

Get a Dark Apostle with illusionary supplication in there, it's so tough to shift a 10 man Termie squad with 4s to hit and no-rerolls and -1 to wound from the Rune (plus the other buffs you can add)
   
Made in us
Chosen Baal Sec Youngblood



New Albany, IN

So heres the update list:

Abaddon the Despoiler

Dark Apostle: Cloak of Conquest, Illusory Supplication

Master of Possession: Mark of Tzeentch, Mutated Invigoration, Pact of Flesh

Cultists Mob

Legionaries: 7x Mark of Khorne, Meltagun, Chaos Icon, champ with power axe

Legionaries: 7x Mark of Tzeentch, Flamer Chaos Icon, champ

Chaos Terminator Squad [10 PL, -1CP, 225pts]:Mark of Slaanesh
. Chaos Terminator: Power fist, Reaper autocannon
. Chaos Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist
. Chaos Terminator: Accursed weapon, Combi-melta
. Chaos Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist
. Terminator Champion: Accursed weapon, Black Rune of Damnation, Combi-bolter, Trophies of the Long War

Possessed [7 PL, 140pts]: Possessed Champion
. 4x Possessed: 4x Hideous mutations

Chaos Spawn

Venomcrawler

Chaos Land Raider [14 PL, 265pts]:Combi-melta, Havoc launcher

Defiler [10 PL, 175pts]: Combi-melta, Defiler scourge, Reaper autocannon

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 80pts]: Combi-melta, Havoc launcher
Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 80pts]: Combi-melta, Havoc launcher


Secondary: Dispoil Dominions, bring it down, and grind them down or the long war

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Made in us
Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin





Livermore, Ca

The last chaos list I played against and scared me was
Abbadon
Disco Lord,
Master of Possession
Dark Apostle
10 terminators
10 chosen
5 warp talons
30 cultists
venom crawler
Rubric Tzeentch, all flamers, with Warptime

Points have changed a bit so squeezing in Abaddon is harder, however the chosen are largely redundant and can be minimized.

You need less vehicles, more infantry, bigger unit of possessed or preferably terminators.

What is Abaddons role? You don't have a 10 block of anything so you can't bully people off objectives. You have very little shooting where he can modify their accuracy or damage rolls. You have a lot of points tied up in transport for very little infantry, and in 9th no competitive list does that because it prevents your infantry from shooting, capturing objectives and performing secondary objectives.

Why do you have legionaries marines, what's their role? Mark of Tzeentch, but no psychic power? Mark of Khorne with just a poweraxe?

In my mind, if you have legionaries marines.You need it to bring a cultist unit, AND you have mark of Tzeentch to warptime the terminators into position; or its Prescience for obliterators or Havocs. 5 terminators isn't a reason to have warptime though.

Are you limited on what models you own?
I just purchased 3 War Dogs, lots of mellee, very tough, decent shooting and only 150pts each. OMG... Now the rest of my list can be guns and terminators..
   
Made in us
Chosen Baal Sec Youngblood



New Albany, IN

so heres what i do, termies and abby deepstrike turn 2 on any thing that needs killed or back lines. rhinos with legions mid field objs with mop and apos inside each one followed by LR with possed. culti are in the back field or home obj with the spawn and defiler. the vc will go as needed

and theres a couple of things you cant do with that list warptime termies cant happen only warp strike/deep strike

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Made in us
Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin





Livermore, Ca

infantryman9244 wrote:
so heres what i do, termies and abby deepstrike turn 2 on any thing that needs killed or back lines. rhinos with legions mid field objs with mop and apos inside each one followed by LR with possed. culti are in the back field or home obj with the spawn and defiler. the vc will go as needed

and theres a couple of things you cant do with that list warptime termies cant happen only warp strike/deep strike



Good Luck, your list isn't competitive its casual. You should change the title of your post and you'll have fun. (Once you get 10 terminators that change things significantly)

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