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Out of interest, (seriously - nothing negative implied) why would you choose snap-fit models over proper multipose ones? There was a time when monopose meant you might get more detail but I don't really think that's true anymore. Is it just a convenience thing?

I think selling expansion books that use the existing model range - that many people likely already own - is preferable to doing something packaged up with new models you need.

Looks like those dataslates are the same missions that were with the latest PC version on steam.
The three space wolf missions definitely look similar to the three space wolf missions i got with the online game at christmas.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/274430/

 Bull0 wrote:
Out of interest, (seriously - nothing negative implied) why would you choose snap-fit models over proper multipose ones? There was a time when monopose meant you might get more detail but I don't really think that's true anymore. Is it just a convenience thing?

I think selling expansion books that use the existing model range - that many people likely already own - is preferable to doing something packaged up with new models you need.

I'm only in it for the game and don't like modeling therefore "proper" is a relative term. To me, they are "proper" miniatures.

I want a game that is ready to play right out of the box. I would have preferred one piece already cut from the sprue figures, but I can deal with snap-fit. If I had to glue the models together, I probably would have passed on the game, or I would be subbing in figures.

The standard Space Hulk PC game comes with 3 intro missions, then 12 main missions, and an expansion campaign with 3 more pretty hard missions.

At least this is the content for the base game.

Then it has several expansion packs

Spent last night cutting and cleaning up my Terminators. I've seen the in the flesh before as a friend has a 2009 version but I still found myself drooling over them. Looking forward to getting some paint on them.
I shall spend tonight cutting out the Stealers then I'm all ready for a game or two over the weekend.

 Bull0 wrote:
Out of interest, (seriously - nothing negative implied) why would you choose snap-fit models over proper multipose ones? There was a time when monopose meant you might get more detail but I don't really think that's true anymore. Is it just a convenience thing?

For one thing, Space Hulk is a board game, meaning there are simpler components (from a construction point of view). It's also why the pieces are colour coded rather than just grey plastic. Secondly, the detail on these things is phenomenal. The idea that mono-pose models can't have astonishing detail is fallacious. These clearly do.

 Sir Arun wrote:
The standard Space Hulk PC game comes with 3 intro missions, then 12 main missions, and an expansion campaign with 3 more pretty hard missions.

At least this is the content for the base game.

Then it has several expansion packs

So it's half the price to buy the computer game DLC than the dataslates? Ouch.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Bull0 wrote:
Out of interest, (seriously - nothing negative implied) why would you choose snap-fit models over proper multipose ones? There was a time when monopose meant you might get more detail but I don't really think that's true anymore. Is it just a convenience thing?

For one thing, Space Hulk is a board game, meaning there are simpler components (from a construction point of view). It's also why the pieces are colour coded rather than just grey plastic. Secondly, the detail on these things is phenomenal. The idea that mono-pose models can't have astonishing detail is fallacious. These clearly do.

You read "there was a time when mono-pose meant more detail but I don't think that's really true anymore" and chose to respond to "mono-pose models are lower detail than multi-part"?

I mean, it's not like this is my first HBMC rodeo but that's bad even for you :/


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And basically, when I said "is it a convenience thing?" the answer was yes - because it's a board game, easier built models are useful. So that's cool.

 Bull0 wrote:
Out of interest, (seriously - nothing negative implied) why would you choose snap-fit models over proper multipose ones? There was a time when monopose meant you might get more detail but I don't really think that's true anymore. Is it just a convenience thing?
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The main thing for me with these is character. Each Terminator pose says something about the model and their character that only the best modellers would be able to match with 'normal' plastic kits. It also means that bits like capes, chains and parchments have much more naturalness about them; instead of looking 'tacked on' they are very much a part of the model's motion and design, and that's just not doable in multi-pose models.

I won't say that one type is better than the other, but will say the SH sculpts are far and away the best Termies GW have ever released, and make the brilliant Wolf Guard and Deathwing kits look like bland toys!

 Bull0 wrote:
Out of interest, (seriously - nothing negative implied) why would you choose snap-fit models over proper multipose ones? There was a time when monopose meant you might get more detail but I don't really think that's true anymore. Is it just a convenience thing?

I think selling expansion books that use the existing model range - that many people likely already own - is preferable to doing something packaged up with new models you need.

Monopose often means the designer can put more effort in to the pose than if you'd done multipose models. Monopose models are also faster to assemble as they usually have less parts, less parts means both easier to assemble and easier to clean mould lines.

I'd rather have a monopose model with an awesome pose than a multipose model with a mediocre pose... unless I intend to heavily convert it then I'd rather the multipose, but realistically I only convert a fraction of the models I have because to do it well takes so damned long.

It's here!



Looks great. Though I am disappointed in how light it is, too much hype

Yes. It is too light. I was switching the box from one hand to the other on the tube, and gouged out a chunk of my chest. Blood stain about an inch and a half in diameter across my T Shirt.

With a heavier box maybe I could have got thru to a rib.

Anybody else think Space Hulk is extremely good value for its money? And no, I'm not talking about the exclusivity of it or that you can almost always resell your copy for at least the same value as you originally bought it from GW for, but the content itself:

I mean you get

1 space marine librarian -> ~£12
11 highly detailed snap-fit Space Marine terminators, each in a unique pose but with BA insignia -> ~£45
22 highly detailed snap-fit Tyranid genestealers, most of them in a unique pose -> £45
1 plastic Broodlord -> ~£11

That makes for a total of £113

And this isnt even taking any of the rulebooks or objectives that can also be used as objective markers in 40k games or tiles into consideration, the latter making up for most of the weight in the box

Also here is the back cover and WD back cover for those of you who missed out:

 Sir Arun wrote:
Anybody else think Space Hulk is extremely good value for its money? And no, I'm not talking about the exclusivity of it or that you can almost always resell your copy for at least the same value as you originally bought it from GW for, but the content itself:

I mean you get

1 space marine librarian -> ~£12
11 highly detailed snap-fit Space Marine terminators, each in a unique pose but with BA insignia -> ~£45
22 highly detailed snap-fit Tyranid genestealers, most of them in a unique pose -> £45
1 plastic Broodlord -> ~£11

That makes for a total of £113

And this isnt even taking any of the rulebooks or objectives that can also be used as objective markers in 40k games or tiles into consideration, the latter making up for most of the weight in the box

Agreed.

On a further note- I think that Space Hulk Broodlord beats the hell out of the resin one the 'Nids have got in their range at the moment.

Re Expansions, I've done a PDF for Deathwing rules which is available here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5CmSczUlwc_VHp1SDhqbHBuMW8/edit?usp=sharing

 Bonegrinder wrote:

Surprised there isn't much mention of the really nice free poster / print that arrived in the box - looks like a "ordered direct from GW" limited item.

:-D

I wonder if it is a GW preorder bonus or if people who picked their copies of Spulk in GW stores got one too

My Warstore copy did not have a poster. But I paid $107 including shipping. I'm pretty happy without the poster (though it is kind of cool).

Death angel one?! Awesome dude, thanks. I'll hafta DL it and buy some DV termies.

Death angel one may I ask how you did that? I assume you did on a Mac I am thinking of doing the same since I have access to a Mac Mini at work I am just unsure how to do it any tips would be great.

Thanks in advance

Mond

If anyone does the Ultramarines one as well, I'd be curious to get that. Don't care so much about the Space Wolves, but I'm sure others would love it.

Looking through, are there rules to determine which models get used? It kind of looks like "pick which DA models you want, just use the same number of pieces as you would if using BA models".

I found out that my FLGS had enough copies to last them a couple of days, so I decided to purchase a copy for myself, since I missed out on the 2009 release.
I figured that I would get plenty of chances to play it, since I have quite a few friends that like playing board games.
This is actually the first board game that I have purchased for myself, I have always been more of a table top war gamer, so I'm really looking forward to trying it out on friday! One of my good friends even offered to paint the miniatures, starting with the terminators.
I'm actually quite happy with that, since I have so many other miniatures on my painting table right now.

i'm very happy with this. the only problem i'm having is that i can't decide whether to paint the termies as blood angels per the fluff, or to induct these beautiful models into my own brand SM army.

 daddyorchips wrote:
i'm very happy with this. the only problem i'm having is that i can't decide whether to paint the termies as blood angels per the fluff, or to induct these beautiful models into my own brand SM army.

They would look weird with all the BA iconography...arguably more heavily than the DA icons on the DV set

John Wirral wrote:

 Bonegrinder wrote:

Surprised there isn't much mention of the really nice free poster / print that arrived in the box - looks like a "ordered direct from GW" limited item.

:-D

It's hard to read in that picture, at the bottom it says "Here's a little something special to say thanks for ordering Space Hulk from games-workshop.com", and "Space Hulk by Adrian Smith, September 2014" on the bottom left. It's amazing that he would be able to take time out from Iron Maiden to do illustrations for GW (I know, they're two different people, it still catches me off guard till this day)

The poster itself is about as thick as a postcard, really high quality, I'm chuffed to bits. Have to get this sucker framed.

 Bonde wrote:
I found out that my FLGS had enough copies to last them a couple of days, so I decided to purchase a copy for myself, since I missed out on the 2009 release.
I figured that I would get plenty of chances to play it, since I have quite a few friends that like playing board games.
This is actually the first board game that I have purchased for myself, I have always been more of a table top war gamer, so I'm really looking forward to trying it out on friday! One of my good friends even offered to paint the miniatures, starting with the terminators.
I'm actually quite happy with that, since I have so many other miniatures on my painting table right now.

I need to finish off my Panzergrenadiers before I even think about clipping anything off the SH sprue. Only half a platoon to go.

After almost 30 pages, I'm surprised no one has posted this gem It explains the game pretty well

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/527363

This box set is a phenomenal value (for GW product). The models alone are an amazing deal. The box is much heavier than I was expecting. But now I see that the game board and other pieces are made of fairly thick cardboard. And the included poster is nice, it's actually printed on card stick and not just flimsy paper.

The models are superb. Now I have to decide if I am going to paint the terminators as traditional BA or a variant to be more interesting. Going to paint the gene-stealers to match my home brew hive.

 Squat Kid wrote:
After almost 30 pages, I'm surprised no one has posted this gem It explains the game pretty well

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/527363

actually I am fairly certain somebody already posted the youtube link

 Bonegrinder wrote:

It's hard to read in that picture, at the bottom it says "Here's a little something special to say thanks for ordering Space Hulk from games-workshop.com", and "Space Hulk by Adrian Smith, September 2014" on the bottom left. It's amazing that he would be able to take time out from Iron Maiden to do illustrations for GW.

Well, Iron Maiden is pretty much the Games Workshop of the heavy metal world...

Backfire wrote:

 Bonegrinder wrote:

It's hard to read in that picture, at the bottom it says "Here's a little something special to say thanks for ordering Space Hulk from games-workshop.com", and "Space Hulk by Adrian Smith, September 2014" on the bottom left. It's amazing that he would be able to take time out from Iron Maiden to do illustrations for GW.

Well, Iron Maiden is pretty much the Games Workshop of the heavy metal world...

Incidentally the Space Hulk animation also features a song by Iron maiden

Backfire wrote:

 Bonegrinder wrote:

It's hard to read in that picture, at the bottom it says "Here's a little something special to say thanks for ordering Space Hulk from games-workshop.com", and "Space Hulk by Adrian Smith, September 2014" on the bottom left. It's amazing that he would be able to take time out from Iron Maiden to do illustrations for GW.

Well, Iron Maiden is pretty much the Games Workshop of the heavy metal world...

Games Workshop are not incredible performers with boundless talent, like Iron Maiden truly are.