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Its being worded as "a partnership" but SFG how has the rights to pretty much all of PP's IP and the range of P3 paints

https://home.privateerpress.com/2024/06/03/privateer-press-the-next-phase/


https://steamforged.com/blogs/brands/sfg-acquires-iron-kingdoms

Interesting.

Hopefully this will give WarmaHordes a shot in the arm down the line. Never really been my bag, but competition is good for the industry.

Are those new Caine and Strakov for MkIV on the header or just really good conversions? I don't recognize those sculpts.

They are!


Caine+a new Ace seems to be a thing.

I'm not sure what PP thinks they're focusing on now. They sold.... from what I can see everything except MonPoc? I think they're done.

As for Warmachine.... man, I do not know. The game is great. This could be what both it and Steamforged need to get back on track. It's also likely to fall victim to Steamforged's hubris. Just have to see what the future holds I suppose.

 LunarSol wrote:
I'm not sure what PP thinks they're focusing on now. They sold.... from what I can see everything except MonPoc? I think they're done.

The way it reads, it seems like PP gets to focus on the rules and design with Steamforged doing the marketing, releasing, et al.

Man, WARMACHINE was some of thr best gaming experience I had back in the 00's.

Sadly now, no one has any interest in it where I live. So it is a dead game for me. Hope it does well, as it would be an absolute shame to see it leave the hobby.

There's an ama with steamforged over on reddit right now.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warmachine/comments/1d786a1/ama_hopefully_youve_seen_the_news_got_some/

Not sure how I feel about this, Mk. III and Mk. IV have been train wrecks due to the PP's mismanagement of their own company.

SFG doesn't have a good track record of keeping a game alive at this point, haven't heard ANY noise about a game from SFG since before they cancelled Guild Ball and blamed it on the player base...

And now they pick up one of the most competitive oriented games out there? Wonder how long it will be until they cease supporting the IP they just purchased from PP while they chase some quick sales with Kickstarter after Kickstarter and new licensed games.

Hope it works out for them, but I don't really see this going anywhere.

We live in interesting times.

Well RIP PP, they did it to themselves.

If they let go of some of the toxic positivity mods that PP has, that might help. I doubt prior mistakes will be acknowledged but I figure this will be a cluster for a bit.

 LunarSol wrote:
I'm not sure what PP thinks they're focusing on now. They sold.... from what I can see everything except MonPoc?

I would imagine no one wants to touch MonPoc right now until the Mythic Kickstarter fiasco reaches some sort of resolution, one way or another.

Hopefully this goes a bit smoother than their Guild Ball relaunch did, but I wouldn't be surprised if they manage to goof it up somehow.

I've always loved the aesthetic of Warmachine and many of the minis look great. Even the older stuff appealed to me, but the game ecosystem just never seemed to grow.

Not much point in buying in if everything just sits on the shelf.

I haven't played since Mk2, but I used to be a big fan. Even had a bunch of the 3.5 d&d rpg stuff. Just wasn't happy with the direction of the game in mk3.

Would be great to see the game revive, but I think shop owners here in Germany are gonna be mega skeptical of picking it back up.

Warmachine is actually doing pretty well in Warsaw, with a few shops stocking mk4, a bunch of new players and local tournaments getting full attendace of 16 every time. And all this thanks to that one guy running demo games everywhere and promoting it like crazy 🙂

Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

I have zero confidence in Steamforge.

Not sure if PP had the rights to do a Legend of the Five Rings game or not. They had some of the figures in their monthly subscription boxes a few years back and I had heard rumors of a rank and file game coming out again (Like Clan Wars). Could that be where the focus is going? I know a few people who would definitely be down for that.

So the folks who created and managed Guild Ball now own Warmachine? I wish them and, more importantly, their customers the best of luck (no sarcasm but rather a hint of trepidation).

 Theophony wrote:
Not sure if PP had the rights to do a Legend of the Five Rings game or not. They had some of the figures in their monthly subscription boxes a few years back and I had heard rumors of a rank and file game coming out again (Like Clan Wars). Could that be where the focus is going? I know a few people who would definitely be down for that.

I think they just got a licence to make a few character models due to Matt Wilson's involvement in their original conception.

Ah yes, the company that couldn’t keep up with the demand for Guild Ball and canceled it because its players were too competitive picks up the rights to Warmachine…

Oh, wild! Not a thing I ever would have expected.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:
I'm not sure what PP thinks they're focusing on now. They sold.... from what I can see everything except MonPoc? I think they're done.

The way it reads, it seems like PP gets to focus on the rules and design with Steamforged doing the marketing, releasing, et al.

So it seems like its mostly a distribution deal. I suppose that makes sense. Our recently closed FLGS couldn't get PP stuff at all due to a lack of distribution but had no trouble stocking SFG.

Maybe we can get miniatures made in modern materials, and not old pewter or 3d prints I could buy from any bozo with a printer online.

This feels like a black hole colliding with another black hole to be honest.

I used to quite enjoy Warmachine but PP's shenanigans burnt all their bridges with the folks in my area.

Most of the Warmahordes players moved to Guildball...

However, I'm really hoping that together the two companies can sort themselves out and give us a cool game with stompy robots and allied wizards. It's a rather forlorn hope but I'd like to see something good pulled out of the ashes.

RIP

It was question of time for PP to close shop or sell out... and I absolutely hate to see that outcome, not because of PP but because of the industry that is more and more polarised.

Some great minis discontinued, being sold for peanuts on 2nd market etc its not what this IP deserves for sure... Theres been huge mistakes in the past and both these companies seem to have the tendency to project their frustrations upon their clients though.The wording on this announcement was as usual a bit deluded.

I stopped hoping for new Trollbloods done in metal with all those nice details but now, its official - Another part of my collection that will never grow and will remain forever stuck in time.

Best of luck I guess.

It's basically a company that went too wide is being picked up by a company that went too deep.

One had messy rules and the other had overly tight rules.

Perhaps they will learn from each other.

I was just working up to trying that new "its not everblight but it is" bunch of models. I was a little surprised as they went into 3D print production that they didn't try and at least do what Mantic and Mierce have done and start doing STL sales as well of their models for additional income.


Fingers crossed something good comes of this

As I said in the other, earlier, thread: I wonder if this is because PP just can't handle it any more or if the Mythic Deal really did put them under.

I would love for Warmahordes to get big again. It really was the best set of rules I've seen, and gave GW a run for their money until PP shot themselves in the foot right when GW was smoke-and-mirroring themselves as "new" GW.