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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/31 00:53:24
Subject: Mr Hobby Aqueous paints..
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Hey all,
A quick question.
Does anybody know if I can mix Mr Hobby Aqueous paints with other Acrylics such as Vallejo or Citadel?
Thanks!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/31 03:37:54
Subject: Re:Mr Hobby Aqueous paints..
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Foolproof Falcon Pilot
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I don't have a personal experience with Mr Hobby paints. But as they all are water diluted, mixing should work.
As a general rule, you can mix pretty much any acrylic with each other, as the pigments are fairly similar. The mediums may differ however, so the behaviour can change a bit.
I regularly mix Citadel, Scale75 and Khimera colors without issues.
Give it a try and see how it works out!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/31 07:31:45
Subject: Mr Hobby Aqueous paints..
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Yeah I would have thought I would be ok but these Mr Hobby paints seem somewhat controversial.
Apparently they contain a larger degree of ‘solvent’ than most acrylics… some are saying they are 40% + alcohol so are more ‘alcohol based’ than ‘water based’
I’m no chemist so all this is voodoo to me. I guess I will just mix a little up with some Citadel and see what happens. Hopefully the result doesn’t burn through the model or create a small event horizon at the hobby desk…
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/01 02:14:30
Subject: Mr Hobby Aqueous paints..
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Fixture of Dakka
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Get some cheap armymen from the dollar store to do the initial experiments. Don't risk expensive GW plastic on it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/01 11:43:03
Subject: Mr Hobby Aqueous paints..
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I'd advise treading carefully with this. I noticed that Mr Aqueous are indeed water and solvent based, and this makes them a bit unique in many respects. For example, I could not manage to keep a Mr Aqueous colour from drying onto a wet pallette regardless of how wet I made it. This means the solvent part in the paint plays a pretty significant part in their overall behaviour, since the paint dries up regardless of how much water is mixed into it as soon as the solvents evaporate.
Use a test model, or better yet, experiment with plasticard or bits of sprue before trying on a model
I'm personally not sure what to make of Mr Aqueous paints. Since they have that bit of solvent, I seem to think they are somewhat self levelling, which makes them a good fit for basecoating, but other than that, not sure what they'd be best for.. They also seem to grab the surface quite well, so dont tend to rub off easily, this property might make them a good fit for weathering workflows which rely on scrubbing techniques
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/01 12:49:49
Subject: Mr Hobby Aqueous paints..
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Regular Dakkanaut
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tauist wrote:I'd advise treading carefully with this. I noticed that Mr Aqueous are indeed water and solvent based, and this makes them a bit unique in many respects. For example, I could not manage to keep a Mr Aqueous colour from drying onto a wet pallette regardless of how wet I made it. This means the solvent part in the paint plays a pretty significant part in their overall behaviour, since the paint dries up regardless of how much water is mixed into it as soon as the solvents evaporate.
Use a test model, or better yet, experiment with plasticard or bits of sprue before trying on a model
I'm personally not sure what to make of Mr Aqueous paints. Since they have that bit of solvent, I seem to think they are somewhat self levelling, which makes them a good fit for basecoating, but other than that, not sure what they'd be best for.. They also seem to grab the surface quite well, so dont tend to rub off easily, this property might make them a good fit for weathering workflows which rely on scrubbing techniques
Ah this explains a lot! I picked them up from a model shop geared towards ‘scale models’ and the owner of the place wouldn’t stop gushing about how incredible they were. Obviously these properties you mention make them ideal for big vehicle jobs… planes and such.
I have actually bought them specifically for that BUT I have four colors to my name so was wondering if I could mix my regular ‘wargaming’ acrylics into one of them for the cockpit. Basically a yellow, say Yriel Yellow, into the aqueous ‘cockpit green’…
I think at this stage I will abandon the idea. It seems to me likely they won’t mix and I’ll just end ruining a brush or something, as well as wasting time. I can base coat the cockpit with the Mr Hobby and then, after it’s dry, paint details ontop with my usual range.
On the plus side, my experience airbrushing these was very positive and man oh man they went on smooth. I think they’ll make a great base coat for large flat areas on vehicles just as the hobby store owner advised.
That’s about it though…
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/02 19:06:19
Subject: Mr Hobby Aqueous paints..
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I wouldn’t mix them but I guess there is no harm in trying. I think the Tamiya acrylics are also made with water and alcohol so if you want to expand on colours they might be compatible.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/03 08:12:02
Subject: Mr Hobby Aqueous paints..
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Regular Dakkanaut
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So, for posterity’s sake, I can now report that it IS possible to mix the aqueous and citadel base colors.
I managed to do so for some highlighting in the cockpit of the plane I’m building and it looks pretty good!
What I will point out though, is that the paint doesn’t behave like normal acrylics whatsoever. The alcohol base of the aqueous paint provides very little working time with a brush and the paint does not thin the same way. Ontop of that, when actually mixing the two paints it took very aggressive stirring to achieve a uniform blend. All that said, I did manage to mix them and do what I set out to… which was to brush paint a few highlights in small areas. The final result looks pleasing enough.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/01/03 14:13:21
Subject: Mr Hobby Aqueous paints..
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Posts with Authority
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You need to use Mr Aqueous Thinner for thinning them out, not water. I usually mix 1:1 aqueous paint with thinner, sometimes even apply more thinner than paint FWIW when brush painting
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