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SamusDrake wrote:
 godswildcard wrote:
I just wish I could get some local people to pick AT up.

It's a consistently fun game, regardless of winning or losing, which is more than I can say for a lot of games out there.

Getting people to buy into it is difficult for some reason, though.


Any idea what turns them off? Are they content in their comfort zone?



No Infantry, no Armour, no Airplanes... not EPIC, only Titans & Knights...

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 Mr_Rose wrote:

Where are you even getting Necromunda: Underhive from? It’s been OOP for months now, since before Dark Uprising dropped.

But yeah, it’s kinda been supplanted. The rules aren’t wrong exactly but as-printed they received a bunch of errata and a lot of stuff has been added since then. A lot.

Edit: For AT, I really hope the next plastic kit is a new Titan, preferably the ‘light scout’ that’s been teased repeatedly. I’m really starting to get a bit down on every other release being a Knight. Make the Asterius, Magaera, and Styrix resin upgrade kits pls.


Local game store still has a copy. Haven't decided to pick it up yet, based on the rule book situation. Alternatively, I suppose I could just get the latest rule book and go with Gene-cults with the download pdf. Quite fond of the sloppy-chopped fiends...

I'm sure the next AT unit will be a Titan. To be fair, the Cerastus varients were long overdue even before the covid crisis, and we currently have more Titans than Knights.

In hindsight it would have been better to have left Doom of Molech and the Acastus for later. Maniples that included knights would have been better and provided far more options.

One thing I'd ask of a future expansion; let us make our own maniples! That would be something.


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No Infantry, no Armour, no Airplanes... not EPIC, only Titans & Knights...


Thats is a shame. Hopefully, they might introduce armigers and some super heavies. Some ork and eldar would certainly get some attention from other faction players.

Edit: Hang on a minute! That was a question aimed at godswildcard!

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RazorEdge wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
 godswildcard wrote:
I just wish I could get some local people to pick AT up.

It's a consistently fun game, regardless of winning or losing, which is more than I can say for a lot of games out there.

Getting people to buy into it is difficult for some reason, though.


Any idea what turns them off? Are they content in their comfort zone?



No Infantry, no Armour, no Airplanes... not EPIC, only Titans & Knights...


Right, because it isn't Epic and never will be. You can also go play Epic right now. You don't need AT to do so.

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Indeed. I play Epic and AT with gusto for wildly different purposes, because they are both great in their thing and horrible on each others' turfs.


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SamusDrake wrote:
 Mr_Rose wrote:

Where are you even getting Necromunda: Underhive from? It’s been OOP for months now, since before Dark Uprising dropped.

But yeah, it’s kinda been supplanted. The rules aren’t wrong exactly but as-printed they received a bunch of errata and a lot of stuff has been added since then. A lot.


Local game store still has a copy. Haven't decided to pick it up yet, based on the rule book situation. Alternatively, I suppose I could just get the latest rule book and go with Gene-cults with the download pdf. Quite fond of the sloppy-chopped fiends...

You’ll want the Book of Ruin for genestealer cults¹ in the underhive. The PDF is also out of date.



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Oh great, so thats the big rule book, Gangs of the underhive and Book of Ruin just to run Genies.

Seems a lot for a skirmish game!

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I think you can technically skip Gangs of the Underhive if you just want to play cultists (unless you want a chaos-corrupted House gang of course) so still two books.
Think of the new format Necromunda as more like an RPG with its supplements and splat books; you only actually need the ones that apply to your character but the others sometimes contain useful stuff.
But we also have dedicated Necromunda threads so this should probably be carried on in one of those.

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Agreed. Thanks for the advice.

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RazorEdge wrote:
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Racerguy180 wrote:
 Alpharius wrote:
Spaceport terrain would be so awesome...

Now you’ve got me really hoping that’s it too!


It's something I think they'll need to have once AT get to the Siege of Terra. but we've got plenty of time(hopefully) for that


In the meantime, they coudl release Epic - The Horus Heresy......


Already doing it myself

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In this case, my printer.

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65USD, Likely 2 duplicate sprues the same price as 3 sprue Warhound Titans. A very expensive piece of table decoration.
   
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True. Might be better to just get another pair of hounds instead.

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SamusDrake wrote:
For that price they might as well have released them as two separate kits.


that would hurt sales of boltgun variant. got to make people buy both to sell both. otherwise boltgun variant wouldnt make up expenses


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 gorgon wrote:
I don't get the sense that SG are going anywhere anytime soon. All that stuff seems to sell out (too) quickly, which means they're making their numbers, which means it's highly profitable. And their core games seem very healthy, so no refocusing should be required. I also don't get the sense that SG is terribly resource-heavy. If anything, the staff seems overstretched.


Epic armageddon oversold GW's own estimation by 400%. Now assuming GW doesn't approve project that they don't expect to give profit that means epic armageddon was also very profitable. Yet it got dropped.




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SamusDrake wrote:
That would be a shame if they did drop the specialist games.

I think if they had that in mind for the near future then I doubt they would have "relaunched" AT this year.


Nor did epic armageddon last that long...Couple years and gone.

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Wasn't Epic Armageddon released something like 15 years ago? Hard to see how that's an indicator for how GW is operating today.

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 gorgon wrote:
Wasn't Epic Armageddon released something like 15 years ago? Hard to see how that's an indicator for how GW is operating today.


It was also in metal. Plastic is a lot of investment up front, but far less over time to keep producing. Less incentive to drop it when likely the warlords have already paid for themselves and are mostly profit now.
   
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tneva82 wrote:

that would hurt sales of boltgun variant. got to make people buy both to sell both. otherwise boltgun variant wouldnt make up expenses


It could be that, although personally I would get the Castigators anyway simply because they look cool.

Another thought is that it might be a total of three sprues, rather than two. One for the weapons and two for the bodies. They appear to be roughly the same bulk as lancers, but there is also the fuel tanks on the back and the ammo belts which the Lancer doesn't have. It'll be interesting to see what the final product is.

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tneva82 wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
That would be a shame if they did drop the specialist games.

I think if they had that in mind for the near future then I doubt they would have "relaunched" AT this year.


Nor did epic armageddon last that long...Couple years and gone.

Epic: Armageddon died prematurely for a couple of reasons but mostly it was because the entire specialist games studio got shut down by the same guy that said he didn’t need to do market research, because he thought no-one wanted light skirmish games or mass battle games. Actual sales had little to do with it.
Though I will say that those godawful “Eldar” titans that looked like someone tried to make a Battletech chicken (not a chicken-walker, just a chicken (but also a battlemech)) which sold approximately no units probably played into his line of thought.

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 Mr_Rose wrote:
tneva82 wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
That would be a shame if they did drop the specialist games.

I think if they had that in mind for the near future then I doubt they would have "relaunched" AT this year.


Nor did epic armageddon last that long...Couple years and gone.

Epic: Armageddon died prematurely for a couple of reasons but mostly it was because the entire specialist games studio got shut down by the same guy that said he didn’t need to do market research, because he thought no-one wanted light skirmish games or mass battle games. Actual sales had little to do with it.
Though I will say that those godawful “Eldar” titans that looked like someone tried to make a Battletech chicken (not a chicken-walker, just a chicken (but also a battlemech)) which sold approximately no units probably played into his line of thought.

Those horrible Eldar/Ork hybrid titans were from the previous edition of the game. Epic Armageddon wisely went back to the beautiful classic Eldar titans.
   
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Thrilled to see Morbidia get rules. Hopefully the Mechanicum style Knights get models in the near future


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Mechanicum style knights when?

I have a feeling the Atrapos is going to be a bit of a beast when it arrives...

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That Knightly Quality is a worse version of the trait that let you re roll any hit of 1 from melee weapon in Doom of Molech.
   
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SamusDrake wrote:
 Mr_Rose wrote:

Where are you even getting Necromunda: Underhive from? It’s been OOP for months now, since before Dark Uprising dropped.

But yeah, it’s kinda been supplanted. The rules aren’t wrong exactly but as-printed they received a bunch of errata and a lot of stuff has been added since then. A lot.

Edit: For AT, I really hope the next plastic kit is a new Titan, preferably the ‘light scout’ that’s been teased repeatedly. I’m really starting to get a bit down on every other release being a Knight. Make the Asterius, Magaera, and Styrix resin upgrade kits pls.


Local game store still has a copy. Haven't decided to pick it up yet, based on the rule book situation. Alternatively, I suppose I could just get the latest rule book and go with Gene-cults with the download pdf. Quite fond of the sloppy-chopped fiends...

I'm sure the next AT unit will be a Titan. To be fair, the Cerastus varients were long overdue even before the covid crisis, and we currently have more Titans than Knights.

In hindsight it would have been better to have left Doom of Molech and the Acastus for later. Maniples that included knights would have been better and provided far more options.

One thing I'd ask of a future expansion; let us make our own maniples! That would be something.


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RazorEdge wrote:


No Infantry, no Armour, no Airplanes... not EPIC, only Titans & Knights...


Thats is a shame. Hopefully, they might introduce armigers and some super heavies. Some ork and eldar would certainly get some attention from other faction players.

Edit: Hang on a minute! That was a question aimed at godswildcard!



Lol!


I think one big thing is that the locals are very dedicated to 40K, AoS and Some Historicals, and that's about it. It's hard for any new game to break in, although Necromunda has done ok.

One other thing (IMO) is that people are conditioned to believe that you need a lot of stuff for GW games, and with AT it takes some convincing to actually show people that that's not true. Considering that for $260 you can have all the rules and everything you need to make a half-decent army at tournament standard sizes, sad as it is, that's a deal that borders on 'too-good-to-be-true' territory for GW.

I may just have to bite the bullet and build a second Legio so that way I can run demos and maybe get a few more people interested.

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Mechanicum Knights are not that far off it seems!

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Hey,

Is there any rumour about non imperial titanic models?

I know it´s ADEPTUS TITANICUS, but maybe as enemies...

   
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That'd be great and all but, no, nothing really.

They mentioned 'maybe, possibly, wouldn't it be neat to do them one day' though.

New 'properly scaled' Gargants would be great - and lots of fun.

And new Phantom and Warlock Titans?

A dream come true!

Set back in the Good Old Days of the Great Crusade?

Even better!

Dare to dream!!!

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 ElAntiguoGuardián wrote:
Hey,

Is there any rumour about non imperial titanic models?

I know it´s ADEPTUS TITANICUS, but maybe as enemies...


Yes there're aircrafts, they made a lot of them actually. That's why release for this game is so slow right now.

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 ElAntiguoGuardián wrote:
Hey,

Is there any rumour about non imperial titanic models?

I know it´s ADEPTUS TITANICUS, but maybe as enemies...


What Alpharius said...it's a 'maybe someday' and they are taking their sweet time just releasing the additional imperial titans they have planned.

I think they need to continue with the HH setting for now. But I'd certainly like to see more TITANS in the game, so yeah, Orks and Eldar would be cool. I'm officially over getting more and more knights.


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A new Cerastus is of course welcome, but would like to see a new Titan in DOR.

Not familiar with the Atropos. Whos he when hes at home, then?

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SamusDrake wrote:
A new Cerastus is of course welcome, but would like to see a new Titan in DOR.

Not familiar with the Atropos. Whos he when hes at home, then?


Lascutter and a graviton singularity cannon that has a chance to become a vortex. In 30k, it’s a super heavy killer so expect a very short range but very dangerous Knight
   
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Sounds great! I'll take a dozen!



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The Atropos singularity canon had the same range as Thermal cannon, while the Lascutter is also a range and melee weapon. So the range isn't really short compare to other Knights. And Atropos had better shield than other Cerastus Knights.

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