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SamusDrake wrote:
Wow! This month's Engine Kill tells us all about how to use Orders! Well, I don't think anyone knew how to use them!

Is there really a command check to be made? So thats what that was on the terminals!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/08/25/orders-and-how-to-use-them/


...OMG this is going to be a HUGE game changer!

I get this vibe no one plays it at GW if they're putting out articles like that.

No one plays anything at GW.

It really is insulting when they put these articles out. Next they'll be explaining the initiative phase...

Not every article is aimed at die-hard players of the game.

That is actually a fair comment as orders are indeed under Advanced rules...

...but even still! Orders!

 ImAGeek wrote:
Not every article is aimed at die-hard players of the game.

Yeah but to be fair it's not even written to contextualize these things for potential new players, It's an article that makes a lot of sense for players in the first month of release but it's been a few years at this point. It's weird too because they had a really good one about the ryza book not long ago.

 Crablezworth wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
Not every article is aimed at die-hard players of the game.

Yeah but to be fair it's not even written to contextualize these things for potential new players, It's an article that makes a lot of sense for players in the first month of release but it's been a few years at this point. It's weird too because they had a really good one about the ryza book not long ago.

Yeah, because the Ryza book was coming out.

I don't play AT, and I found it pretty interesting to read.

I own a ton of AT and haven't played it yet, and reading the article got me excited about AT again so I busted out my rulebook to read it at work and now I'm re-invigorated to paint and play. So it worked on that front.

It was kind of a "hey, if you're unfamiliar with this system, here's a sampling of how GOOD it is."

Damn, feeling pretty bad about dissing the article now.

Could it be that I'm finally turning into...one of..."them"?

It's a filler to remind people the game is fun, nothing bad in that. Except that Full Stride text isn't even close to how it works, but heyho

We all get a bit radical as we get older...

 judgedoug wrote:
I own a ton of AT and haven't played it yet, and reading the article got me excited about AT again so I busted out my rulebook to read it at work and now I'm re-invigorated to paint and play. So it worked on that front.

It was kind of a "hey, if you're unfamiliar with this system, here's a sampling of how GOOD it is."

Yeah. And it really is a great ruleset. It's a great game to demo, because it looks cool on the tabletop and has lots of crunch while being reasonably easy to pick up. Unfortunately, the little pandemic thing has taken some steam out of the game's informal relaunch with the new starter set.

Anyone in the US know what time the pre-orders go up?

 gorgon wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
I own a ton of AT and haven't played it yet, and reading the article got me excited about AT again so I busted out my rulebook to read it at work and now I'm re-invigorated to paint and play. So it worked on that front.

It was kind of a "hey, if you're unfamiliar with this system, here's a sampling of how GOOD it is."

Yeah. And it really is a great ruleset. It's a great game to demo, because it looks cool on the tabletop and has lots of crunch while being reasonably easy to pick up. Unfortunately, the little pandemic thing has taken some steam out of the game's informal relaunch with the new starter set.

Anyone in the US know what time the pre-orders go up?

1pm on the east coast, 10 am fire coast.

Seriously I want to buy some Astorum Warlords, but no transfers and especially no Lucius Pattern head swaps is a no go for me. I dont understand why they wouldn't just make a separate resin head or something.

It's another low effort article to meet the monthly article for X Specialist Game that they promised. Pretty lame for a monthly article, I'd rather take something with more effort like... scenario, community/staff legio, sneak peak,.....

Chopstick wrote:
It's another low effort article to meet the monthly article for X Specialist Game that they promised. Pretty lame for a monthly article, I'd rather take something with more effort like... scenario, community/staff legio, sneak peak,.....

It was low effort even for them.

"Wow, this article on orders totes made me wanna start this game"


said no one ever.

I dont get it, the make their best game in years, are killing it with the God-Engines and then they put out crap like this. It makes me frustrated.

Perhaps it was an article written for much earlier when the game was new and it was never used so they thought they'd use it for filler whilst some of their staff setup is not fully in the office at present?

It does seem an odd time to produce such an article in isolation when they aren't doing a series of "how to play" articles and the like on the game.

Now this is a titanicus article

Talks about the ryza book some more.

https://www.goonhammer.com/warlord-wednesdays-building-a-crusade-legion/?fbclid=IwAR2lcIpgJFJC6ngEED_W6Jusj4Fb7ur5qxbQSWk383y94F8XPiUagsHKwBk

Urgh! Just reminded me to pick up a copy of Ryza...

 Crablezworth wrote:
Now this is a titanicus article

GW could learn a thing or two from the folks at Goonhammer about proper Titanicus articles.

Some of the community articles do make me wonder if its an official job that sort of gets done in their lunch break between other jobs.

The other is that they are clearly aiming more at casual/new gamers more so than the experienced. In an ideal world the advanced and complex articles should go into White Dwarf

I don't want to sound to harsh but I get the impression that writing, as a profession, isn't what it used to be. I mean how many times have you read a quick news article where the same bit of info is repeated, several times almost verbatim (sometimes literally), through the piece? Sometimes in two consecutive sentences. I can't be the only one that's noticed that right? "A 32 y/o man was killed in a car crash today in Manchester. James Jackson, 32, was killed today in a crash in Manchester". On proper websites like Yahoo or whatever. Honestly I sometimes wonder if they're written in a sweatshop by a non-native speaker, or maybe even written by a machine. I read better stuff on forums by people writing for free.

That diatribe notwithstanding, I'm not too fussed that this article was sub-standard. You win some you lose some and tbh I usually skip them anyway, despite that I like AT a lot. I suppose it's 'cos I'm not a gamer, I'm in it for the models and the fiction, but the pics are mostly repeated and the stories seem pretty thin on the ground for this game.

JWBS wrote:
I don't want to sound to harsh but I get the impression that writing, as a profession, isn't what it used to be.

It's not - and FW post on FB that the III Legion are the Iron Warriors (they edited it after 45 minutes)

The hardest part about AT imo is making a decent battle report, but I'm finding what's not hard is at least snapping pics every game. GW didn't have a handful of pics to sprinkle in their article, just a shame.

They saved all those for the battle report in this month’s WD.

The WD report was a fun read, even if the ever present lack of terrain meant that the players were using First Fire a lot more than I'd like

The graphic tracker for damaged locations, heat and shields was neat. It conveyed a lot without a novel's worth of text.

I gotta pick that up, the pics they previewed looked really nice.

JWBS wrote:
I don't want to sound to harsh but I get the impression that writing, as a profession, isn't what it used to be. I mean how many times have you read a quick news article where the same bit of info is repeated, several times almost verbatim (sometimes literally), through the piece? Sometimes in two consecutive sentences. I can't be the only one that's noticed that right? "A 32 y/o man was killed in a car crash today in Manchester. James Jackson, 32, was killed today in a crash in Manchester". On proper websites like Yahoo or whatever. Honestly I sometimes wonder if they're written in a sweatshop by a non-native speaker, or maybe even written by a machine. I read better stuff on forums by people writing for free.

It depends. What you may be referring is known as the 'inverted pyramid' in journalism. Are you talking about something like this?

A man was killed in a car crash today in Manchester.

James Jackson, 32, was pronounced dead around 3:00 PM after his vehicle collided with an ice cream truck at the corner of Laurel and Pine.

With the inverted pyramid, the absolute most barebones version of the story will be the first sentence/graf. First sentence of the second graf often repeats the information in the first graf but with more detail about who/what/when/where/etc...like the above. You'll also hear this format in television newscasts. The deeper you go into the news piece, the more detail you receive about the story. Quotes may start to appear in the second or third graf, etc. It's done so that editors can cut sentences and grafs off the back as needed for fit -- everything up to the first sentence potentially -- and still tell the story. It also makes news articles very skimmable. Alternative leads are also a thing, and something like an opinion piece may not follow this format at all. But wire service articles -- the kind that sites like Yahoo pick up -- often will.

Nah I'm talking about a simple story that's not exactly The Iliad to read or write, yet they repeat the same lines over and over as if it's the homework of a lazy 9 year old that has to write 400 words and he repeats the same stuff three times to pad, but his parents didn't take 5 minutes to read what he has produced. No buried leads or florid prose or anything so complex, just super basic repetition of info that's already been conveyed. That's why I came to the conclusion that it might actually be some sort of automation, it really is that stupid. "The man, 32 from Manchester, died in the crash at 4am. The man, 32, was from Manchester". I'll see if I can find an example when I wake up tomorrow, I seem to read one most days.