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Just got mine. Walked into FLGS, waited behind one person in line, and then pre-ordered.

BigOscar wrote:
Is there much of a market for half swaps these days? I remember doing it back in the day, but I guess these days people instead sell half and buy a half instead of doing actual swaps?

Hit up the trade groups on Facebook, honestly that's where a lot of trading is done now between people. You shouldn't have much trouble finding those wanting to swap.


Note I always recommend that if you're going to swap treat it like 2 paid sales. Each of you pays the other 50% the cost of the boxed set through Paypal Goods and Services and then posts their item. That way if one side backs out/vanishes/postal service loses it - then you've got all the protection you need.

The only thing it costs you is the fee from Paypal; since you'll get the same money back from the other side for your half of the box.

Looks like GW in Oz hoarded the boxes for themselves.

12 hours after it went live, the webstore still hasn't sold out.

But independents, multiple independents said they were allocated less than their expressions of interest. I put in an expression of interest earlier in the week and the store said I was too late.

Managed to get one from an online store at a little more than 20% off, but it went from ~100 available to 0 available in a minute or so. Gap Games was funny, saw 600+ available when I first clicked on it, refreshed a few seconds later and it was 300 available, a minute or two later and it was gone. Several other online stores went straight to "sold out" as soon as they refreshed.

This is in spite of those stores having limits of 1 per customer.

But the GW online store is still plugging away, so either no one wants to pay full price or GW severely limited the number they gave to independents vs kept for themselves.

BigOscar wrote:
Is there much of a market for half swaps these days? I remember doing it back in the day, but I guess these days people instead sell half and buy a half instead of doing actual swaps?

FLGS has a number of swaps, and also people buying books from others who are picking up multiple copies of Levi (assuming they go through)

 Olthannon wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
I think you have vastly underestimated the amount they sent out @Overread

Or you overestimate.

I dunno if you look on instagram it feels like every prick in the world got one. So I see why people are irritated by that.

I'm gonna be honest - that sounds pretty childish.


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AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Looks like GW in Oz hoarded the boxes for themselves.

12 hours after it went live, the webstore still hasn't sold out.

But independents, multiple independents said they were allocated less than their expressions of interest. I put in an expression of interest earlier in the week and the store said I was too late.

Managed to get one from an online store at a little more than 20% off, but it went from ~100 available to 0 available in a minute or so. Gap Games was funny, saw 600+ available when I first clicked on it, refreshed a few seconds later and it was 300 available, a minute or two later and it was gone. Several other online stores went straight to "sold out" as soon as they refreshed.

This is in spite of those stores having limits of 1 per customer.

But the GW online store is still plugging away, so either no one wants to pay full price or GW severely limited the number they gave to independents vs kept for themselves.

Stuff on discount sells faster than stuff not on discount. News at 11.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Looks like GW in Oz hoarded the boxes for themselves.

12 hours after it went live, the webstore still hasn't sold out.

But independents, multiple independents said they were allocated less than their expressions of interest. I put in an expression of interest earlier in the week and the store said I was too late.

Managed to get one from an online store at a little more than 20% off, but it went from ~100 available to 0 available in a minute or so. Gap Games was funny, saw 600+ available when I first clicked on it, refreshed a few seconds later and it was 300 available, a minute or two later and it was gone. Several other online stores went straight to "sold out" as soon as they refreshed.

This is in spite of those stores having limits of 1 per customer.

But the GW online store is still plugging away, so either no one wants to pay full price or GW severely limited the number they gave to independents vs kept for themselves.

Other stores didn't put in queue's. (and biggest discounts so people rush there first)

Also still suspect gw isn't happy about pre-pre-orders.

 Daedalus81 wrote:

But the GW online store is still plugging away, so either no one wants to pay full price or GW severely limited the number they gave to independents vs kept for themselves.

Stuff on discount sells faster than stuff not on discount. News at 11.

It's noteworthy because this doesn't usually happen. Usually if independents sell out in minutes, GW themselves sell out a few minutes later. I've missed a few things because I wasn't paying attention at bang on 12 and both GW and independents were sold out.

Nah see it has to be a big conspiracy otherwise how could people get angry about it?
Nevermind that GW has seemingly done a good job at preventing a mass buyout on its website and from what I've read, in-store purchases (at least for the UK) have been pretty straightforward.

tneva82 wrote:
Other stores didn't put in queue's. (and biggest discounts so people rush there first)

Yeah, maybe the queues worked, but the Oz queue wasn't long (I jumped on a few minutes before 12 and was in the online store pretty much bang on 12). And the queue is gone now and they still haven't sold out.

Perhaps the impulse buyers got put off by the queues? Still seems a bit odd compared to how things normally go.

Also still suspect gw isn't happy about pre-pre-orders.

Perhaps, but it's all a bit silly. I imagine there were people pre-pre-ordering at multiple places because of past experiences missing out. I didn't do that myself, as I didn't really care if I missed out on this one, but I'm sure some people who were dying to get it put expressions of interest in multiple places and then cancelled a bunch once one of them came through.

 Gert wrote:
Nah see it has to be a big conspiracy otherwise how could people get angry about it?
Nevermind that GW has seemingly done a good job at preventing a mass buyout on its website and from what I've read, in-store purchases (at least for the UK) have been pretty straightforward.

Well waiting for queue took long. And to get more than 1 wait hour again.

But yeahstore worked. Queue plus purchase limit and full rpp slows down.
How many 3rd partres had queue? Max 1 per customer?

 Gert wrote:
Nah see it has to be a big conspiracy otherwise how could people get angry about it?

No anger here, don't have strong feelings either way, it's just an observation that perhaps GW held back more stock than they usually do from independents.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:


Perhaps, but it's all a bit silly. I imagine there were people pre-pre-ordering at multiple places because of past experiences missing out. I didn't do that myself, as I didn't really care if I missed out on this one, but I'm sure some people who were dying to get it put expressions of interest in multiple places and then cancelled a bunch once one of them came through.

Silly gw expects stores to follow terms?

They might not be able to go too hard as technically not pre-pre-order but they could very well direct stock to those who aren't doing public pre-pre-order by other name.

Well in the UK there is no longer a queue and yet Leviathan remains in stock...

And (believe it or not) Wayland Games claims to have some stock left at £120...

I'll be interested to see how much is still hanging around in stores after the 24th....

Some stores in the UK are also doing waves of sales to prevent stock problems.

tneva82 wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:


Perhaps, but it's all a bit silly. I imagine there were people pre-pre-ordering at multiple places because of past experiences missing out. I didn't do that myself, as I didn't really care if I missed out on this one, but I'm sure some people who were dying to get it put expressions of interest in multiple places and then cancelled a bunch once one of them came through.

Silly gw expects stores to follow terms?

They might not be able to go too hard as technically not pre-pre-order but they could very well direct stock to those who aren't doing public pre-pre-order by other name.

I more meant the whole thing is a bit silly, from the independents not being able to secure as much as they wanted to the FPS-mouse-skills required to get it from an independent to it still being there 12 hours later on the official site.

If the terms say stores can't take expressions of interest prior, well, then the terms are silly, expressions of interest have long been the way stockists determine how much stock they order so that they don't end up selling out in 0.2 seconds and also don't end up being left with a giant pile of unsold stock.

Hmm. I can't find anything from 3rd parties in the US cheaper than $250. Is that the standard GW store price?

GrosseSax wrote:
Hmm. I can't find anything from 3rd parties in the US cheaper than $250. Is that the standard GW store price?

That was the rumoured RRP.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

GrosseSax wrote:
Hmm. I can't find anything from 3rd parties in the US cheaper than $250. Is that the standard GW store price?

That was the rumoured RRP.

If by "rumored" you mean "as stated in the give away terms", then yes.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:


Perhaps, but it's all a bit silly. I imagine there were people pre-pre-ordering at multiple places because of past experiences missing out. I didn't do that myself, as I didn't really care if I missed out on this one, but I'm sure some people who were dying to get it put expressions of interest in multiple places and then cancelled a bunch once one of them came through.

Silly gw expects stores to follow terms?

They might not be able to go too hard as technically not pre-pre-order but they could very well direct stock to those who aren't doing public pre-pre-order by other name.

I more meant the whole thing is a bit silly, from the independents not being able to secure as much as they wanted to the FPS-mouse-skills required to get it from an independent to it still being there 12 hours later on the official site.

Lets keep in mind some of the big online stores might well put in a VERY big order for something like this. Unlike Dominion, 40K and esp Marine stuff will sell out really fast. So some stores likely chanced spending as much as they could afford wanting to get as much stock as possible. So some stores might well not get as much as they hope.


I think the worse thing is that GW didn't have enough pre-order 3rd party store bonus items for one-per-box. It's a minor thing, but a bit of a shame for the 3rd parties. I know a few are now using them for rewards for competitions/events related to the game.

 Platuan4th wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

GrosseSax wrote:
Hmm. I can't find anything from 3rd parties in the US cheaper than $250. Is that the standard GW store price?

That was the rumoured RRP.

If by "rumored" you mean "as stated in the give away terms", then yes.

Was it? I thought only the UK and AUD prices were in the giveaway terms and the US price was extrapolated from that (and/or leaked elsewhere).

I haven't seen any rumors about the US Price, but $250 is about what I would expect given the UK Price of £150.

It is interesting that GW has held a large amount of stock for their website compared to what seems to be going out in trade sales. However, without knowing the actual numbers, we don't know what percentage of production went to GW web/store sales and what when two trade sales. It could easily be a story of trade sales wanting way more than GW allocated for that channel despite a healthy percentage going there. It can also be a strategic decision by GW to ensure they don't get a public black eye from their website running out of stock of a high profile product in minutes. Without knowing the numbers, it is purely speculation as to why trade sales isn't getting what they want.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

GrosseSax wrote:
Hmm. I can't find anything from 3rd parties in the US cheaper than $250. Is that the standard GW store price?

That was the rumoured RRP.

If by "rumored" you mean "as stated in the give away terms", then yes.

Was it? I thought only the UK and AUD prices were in the giveaway terms and the US price was extrapolated from that (and/or leaked elsewhere).

The US version had an "10 units at $2500 USD value" listed.

Love these big box releases. Wait 1-6 months and you can pick up which half you want (Tyranids I'm my case) for 50-60$

Boosykes wrote:
Love these big box releases. Wait 1-6 months and you can pick up which half (Tyranids I'm my case) for 50-60$

Only for the common stuff that's also in the starter boxes.

The pattern for the rest was already established by Indomitus and AoS- the characters and rare units people actually want will be sold direct for $160 for a single sprue of 8-9 models.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Space-Marines-Honoured-Of-The-Chapter-2021

He's assuming 2nd hand market will supply him in 6 months.

To be fair the 2ndhand for Tyranids will likely be healthy for a while. Plus we likely have a Partworks magazine coming that will replenish those cheap models for some.

Marine content might well be harder to get hold of as there's a much bigger market.

6h and still available.

Scalpers must be fuming lol.

 Overread wrote:
To be fair the 2ndhand for Tyranids will likely be healthy for a while. Plus we likely have a Partworks magazine coming that will replenish those cheap models for some.

Marine content might well be harder to get hold of as there's a much bigger market.

Probably right. Luckely the only models that I like the look of on the marine side is the librarian and the standard terminators. So not really fussed on them.

If I see those at a great price I might grab them also.

tneva82 wrote:
6h and still available.

Scalpers must be fuming lol.

Good. The Queue must be a Tau Drone, for the Greater Good and all...

tneva82 wrote:
6h and still available.

Scalpers must be fuming lol.

Why? They lost a chance to make money but they can cancel their orders whenever they want this week.