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 Matthew Flamen wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
6h and still available.

Scalpers must be fuming lol.

Why? They lost a chance to make money but they can cancel their orders whenever they want this week.

You think they don't want money? Why you think they scalp? For fun of it?

People are already pre-selling individual models on Ebay.

I think I'm gonna hold off to see if I can score a biolgois for around $15.

A bit concerning that somehow, some of the sellers have over ten models available. Maybe they only ordered a few boxes and will refund buyers if they run out?

Scalping is just capitalism.

tneva82 wrote:

 Matthew Flamen wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
6h and still available.

Scalpers must be fuming lol.

Why? They lost a chance to make money but they can cancel their orders whenever they want this week.

You think they don't want money? Why you think they scalp? For fun of it?

I find hard to believe that they expect to get a profit always, they win some and lose some. They may have reasons to be annoyed, but not fuming. I was curious if I was missing something, but I see you were just being edgy.

You can still buy Leviathan what the hell are you on about?

 Grot 6 wrote:
Mod edit. removed

One, it's spelled 'queue'. Two, noting the main site still has it in stock goes to show things have, on the whole gone far better than say any of the new kill team releases. Now, there can be complaints made about how many were available to third party retailers, but that wasn't in your rant, just a bunch of inaccurate statements.

 Gert wrote:
You can still buy Leviathan what the hell are you on about?

It's like they pre-typed that a week ago.

Good to be a Youtuber or a scalper, at least they all got theirs, which is the main thing...

That seems an overreaction, considering the last word was '6 hours and still available, scalpers must be angry' from the lands down under.

re-sellers still make profit as there are enough people who just want the models or the rulebook

if you split up the box you will make profit
it might not be worth the time you need to do it but still more money back than you spend

200€ MSRP, rulebook+gaming material can be sold for 50-60€, and the models for 90-100€ per faction
you already make profit, more if you get the box with discount
same as if you start one faction of those, got 2 boxes and sell off the rest, but those will be slightly lower and rather go with 40-50€ for the book and 70-80€ for the models

and yes, if you buy the box on discount and sell of the models and rulebook on your own it will be cheaper, but it is also more work
at the same time, buying the marines for 100€ is still cheaper than buying the whole box for 200€

and this is nothing new but always has been that way while the 2 player boxes were the only way to get certain stuff

if you want to start 40k on a budget, don't buy now at all but wait till Codex Marines and Tyranids hit the shelf

Removed - rule #1 please..

Didnt have a problem with my online shop (15% of) and not at GW site only had to wait for 1 hour. So it was a nice day without troubbles

 Grot 6 wrote:
Mod edit. removed

Nothing like posting pre-written rant assuming it went badly without bothering to check did it eh?

Right came back from a day out... and looking at GW store Im in a queue?

Element still says : This product is no longer being distributed by Games Workshop, and can only be bought directly from their website.

Wayland I dont trust that store stocks ever.

So I dont want to buy this since after thinking about getting these 75 models added to the pile of shame I took a look at what I actually have... and Im actually shocked. Im downsizing!
But if I wanted in the morning I would be out of luck and now seems the same. Not everyone has HOURS to be on a queue for toys.

You choosing not to wait isn'j same as out of luck. Your choice.

tneva82 wrote:
You choosing not to wait isn'j same as out of luck. Your choice.

The choice of not being available during anytime on the first 24 hours of preorders day is not mine.

Taking something like 2 hours to sort this out is not acceptable or having to travel to actually go to a store (if you have one ) is not acceptable either. It's a hobby and toys and in the great scheme of importance it's literally at the bottom of my to do list.

Its specially hard to get GW products and guess what should be exactly the opposite for a hobby company.

 Gert wrote:
You can still buy Leviathan what the hell are you on about?

Exalted!

 NAVARRO wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
You choosing not to wait isn'j same as out of luck. Your choice.

The choice of not being available during anytime on the first 24 hours of preorders day is not mine.

You can still buy it from gw.

 NAVARRO wrote:
Right came back from a day out... and looking at GW store Im in a queue?

Element still says : This product is no longer being distributed by Games Workshop, and can only be bought directly from their website.

Wayland I dont trust that store stocks ever.

So I dont want to buy this since after thinking about getting these 75 models added to the pile of shame I took a look at what I actually have... and Im actually shocked. Im downsizing!
But if I wanted in the morning I would be out of luck and now seems the same. Not everyone has HOURS to be on a queue for toys.

You're in the queue because the US is up next for our preorders to start. It says so right there.

If you'd gone at any point before 12pm Eastern, there was either zero queue or a minute tops.

I wanted to look up some Centaurion 360s, but apparently you can't access the EU site due to US pre-orders starting soon.

Guess they have no back end toggle for region switching and were forced to shut the main gate so that people didn't sneak in before the hour?

In other news, my FLGS still has 10+ copies of Leviathan for purchase, though that might be due a lower than usual discount.

 His Master's Voice wrote:
I wanted to look up some Centaurion 360s, but apparently you can't access the EU site due to US pre-orders starting soon.

Guess they have no back end toggle for region switching and were forced to shut the main gate so that people didn't sneak in before the hour?

More/less. Every region gets locked out. It's how the scraperbots were able to get in and out so quickly, grabbing the URLs for the product from other regions.

 NAVARRO wrote:
The choice of not being available during anytime on the first 24 hours of preorders day is not mine.

There was a solid 4 hours where there was no queue on GW. There is a queue now because it's the pre-order window for the USA. It is available, you just aren't willing to wait.

Andykp wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
You choosing not to wait isn'j same as out of luck. Your choice.

The choice of not being available during anytime on the first 24 hours of preorders day is not mine.

You can still buy it from gw.

Im there now and in a queue! So I dont know that

 kodos wrote:
while the other part was often worth the full box price, remember when Orc Copters being core box only, re-seller were happy to buy the boxes and sell the copters at high prices and made a profit with selling everything else at 50%

Nonsense. I started with that very box and the ork half could be gotten dirt cheap on ebay, even years after GW stopped selling AOBR. During 5th an ork half without the templates or the rulebook could easily gotten for a third of the box price.

Source: I own 30 AOBR Koptas.

So swung by Chaos Cards, my local FLGS, and put my name down.

They’re getting 18 copies, and I’m number 11.

So all good in my hood.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
Right came back from a day out... and looking at GW store Im in a queue?

Element still says : This product is no longer being distributed by Games Workshop, and can only be bought directly from their website.

Wayland I dont trust that store stocks ever.

So I dont want to buy this since after thinking about getting these 75 models added to the pile of shame I took a look at what I actually have... and Im actually shocked. Im downsizing!
But if I wanted in the morning I would be out of luck and now seems the same. Not everyone has HOURS to be on a queue for toys.

You're in the queue because the US is up next for our preorders to start. It says so right there.

If you'd gone at any point before 12pm Eastern, there was either zero queue or a minute tops.

I was on a queue in the morning for 45minutes and gave up since my life has priorities XD. Logged in now and same shizzz XD So will have to wait for when the stars align or something.
No problems whatsoever just reporting if you are a casual collector with a busy life its SPECIALLY hard to order things from GW these days and you guys arguments dont seem to hold much evidence against that.

 NAVARRO wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
You choosing not to wait isn'j same as out of luck. Your choice.

The choice of not being available during anytime on the first 24 hours of preorders day is not mine.

Taking something like 2 hours to sort this out is not acceptable or having to travel to actually go to a store (if you have one ) is not acceptable either. It's a hobby and toys and in the great scheme of importance it's literally at the bottom of my to do list.

Its specially hard to get GW products and guess what should be exactly the opposite for a hobby company.

Funny. If I want to order 2nd one I CAN DO IT RIGHT NOW.

You choosing not to buy is your choice.

It's still on sale. You just refuse to buy it and blame GW for your decision to choose not to buy it.

tneva82 wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
You choosing not to wait isn'j same as out of luck. Your choice.

The choice of not being available during anytime on the first 24 hours of preorders day is not mine.

Taking something like 2 hours to sort this out is not acceptable or having to travel to actually go to a store (if you have one ) is not acceptable either. It's a hobby and toys and in the great scheme of importance it's literally at the bottom of my to do list.

Its specially hard to get GW products and guess what should be exactly the opposite for a hobby company.

Funny. If I want to order 2nd one I CAN DO IT RIGHT NOW.

You choosing not to buy is your choice.

It's still on sale. You just refuse to buy it and blame GW for your decision to choose not to buy it.

WTH have you read what I posted... Im actually on a queue now. Nothing moving. IF I WANT TO BUY NOW... I cant.

Yeah, I don't think there is really going to be a stock problem in the US.

Most retailers have been taking preorders since early this morning and still have preorder inventory. For example, Mythicos got 50; they still have 30 available.

https://www.mythicos.store/collections/10th-edition-release/products/leviathan-box-set-pre-order-releases-6-24-23

I have my son today/this weekend so I didn't really care about pre-ordering. Just checked GW site, it referred to the English site where nothing about Leviathan was up. So I checked my usual German sites and but one they are sold out, too. German GW site has it still available, too. If I get a discount box, I get one, if I don't...eh, I never got to paint my old Nids, anyway. And my LGS had AoS 3.0 boxes for years, with extra diacou

What I'm actually bummed about is that I now get a notification about a queue and Leviathan in the US when trying to go on the GW site to look at 360 images (which is what I'm really interested in, to check the new Terminator proportions). Stupid phone browser.

Queue isn't related to phone but to ensurb servers work now that us preorders are happening. And give middle finger to scalpers.

Yeah, if you want the queues to go away to do something else on the website, you're best served by getting out of the way so preorders can happen.

Once the rush is processed, website functionality will go back to normal.