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for those who wonder about 2nd flying unit in the list

Baloon bombers? Sweet!

I wonder how the Wargames Atlantic Halflings compare in size to the Mantic Halflings. I know people are likely to want to incorporate the two, so it would be good to know. The swords on the Mantic Halflings are much better, but I do like the Wargames Atlantic halberds/polearms.

 Fenriswulf wrote:
I wonder how the Wargames Atlantic Halflings compare in size to the Mantic Halflings. I know people are likely to want to incorporate the two, so it would be good to know. The swords on the Mantic Halflings are much better, but I do like the Wargames Atlantic halberds/polearms.

I think the wargames atlantic halflings are a bit smaller in comparison.

If we look at these pictures and assume the base is both 20mm in side :



...I'd say the Mantic Games halflings are sensibly bigger for their arms and bodies. A bit plumper as well, IMHO.

It should still be possible to match, but maybe the hands and arms will look a bit shorter next to their fellows using all Mantic parts.

Could be surely a good idea to try, though ! Maybe I'm completely wrong.

more Renders








and part of the frame

I like the fact that the dogs and riders are separate, make for easy conversions.

 Theophony wrote:
I like the fact that the dogs and riders are separate, make for easy conversions.

Indeed. I'm already thinking of putting some on Gryph-hounds.

might be a hint what the new theme list is:

Sarouan wrote:

 Fenriswulf wrote:
I wonder how the Wargames Atlantic Halflings compare in size to the Mantic Halflings. I know people are likely to want to incorporate the two, so it would be good to know. The swords on the Mantic Halflings are much better, but I do like the Wargames Atlantic halberds/polearms.

I think the wargames atlantic halflings are a bit smaller in comparison.

If we look at these pictures and assume the base is both 20mm in side :

Spoiler:

...I'd say the Mantic Games halflings are sensibly bigger for their arms and bodies. A bit plumper as well, IMHO.

It should still be possible to match, but maybe the hands and arms will look a bit shorter next to their fellows using all Mantic parts.

Could be surely a good idea to try, though ! Maybe I'm completely wrong.

If the WGA ones are smaller, I might use them as conversion fodder for old school GW Goblins. Just add a few more odd bits to them and they could look like they've looted a lot of their kit from Empire soldiers or Halflings from the moot. Which fits in nicely with the force I am putting together.

Artillery looks great.

Never been much of a fan of halflings. But these are fun. They have some cool themes, while still retaining some of what you'd expect halflings to be using. They don't go down the GW route of making halflings so obsessed with eating/cooking, that all their stuff seems to incorporate that. The artillery does seem sort of 'plain/normal' (a mortar, an organ gun...), but aside from that, I'm impressed, and want to get that iron pig, and the troll..., lawnmower..., thing?

 kodos wrote:
might be a hint what the new theme list is:

Spoiler:

Is that an orc, or a troll on that lion..., thing (is it a lion, or a warg with a mane?). It's cool though. My money's not on the halfling knight, but his doggy is gettin a good chomp in there.

My interest was piqued by that greenskin on the cover, that's for sure.

I wonder if Mantic is going to give us some new orcs in the future. I'd settle on resins for Vanguard at the very least!

I hope they redo the elves, I like their newer kits, and their old range was passable when it came out.

The Lion and the rider fit perfectly the secret winter release model

so it s an Orc or Troll riding a Manticore, might be an Orc theme list

Preview of the frame

I prefer the Wargames Atlantic halflings as I find the large head size of the Mantic ones make them look too much like kids (who have a larger head in proportion to their body). But tastes vary and I'm happy to see Mantic succeed.

and as WGA gives extra heads along with their extra heads replacing the mantic ones should be simple (even if you don't buy both spares should be simple enough to trade for or buy 2nd hand)

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
and as WGA gives extra heads along with their extra heads replacing the mantic ones should be simple (even if you don't buy both spares should be simple enough to trade for or buy 2nd hand)

WGA's Halfing Militia comes with 120 heads and 40 bodies, so you should without a doubt have a lot of spare heads if you buy them.

I was afraid the girls would be like the northern clansmen - having the same bodies than men but with just female heads. I'm glad to see there are specific bodies for them.

Feels like the sprues aren't exactly optimized and they could have added a few things like additionnal weapons / heads, or a command option, but I'm still glad with what I see there.

Took the mega-army, I should have fun with making units more typical even if heads will repeat themselves a bit. Not a big deal : in Kings of War, it's more a mass effect you're trying to have for your army. Using doubles / triples is pretty much common anyway if you want to keep it cheap.


Hard plastic is good for conversion, anyway !

Has anyone here in the US gotten their Armada Seas Aflame, Deck of Armada Magic cards, and/or any of the first set of fliers?

They (supposedly, per Mantic) shipped quite a while ago, but my FLGS hasn't gotten them, and their distributor (Alliance) hasn't either - with no estimated arrival/ shipping time either.

I am keen to play with my wee fliers, and crazy spells to zap each other with!

Miniature Market got them, my other local doesn’t carry Mantic so no ideas there.

 pancakeonions wrote:
Has anyone here in the US gotten their Armada Seas Aflame, Deck of Armada Magic cards, and/or any of the first set of fliers?

They (supposedly, per Mantic) shipped quite a while ago, but my FLGS hasn't gotten them, and their distributor (Alliance) hasn't either - with no estimated arrival/ shipping time either.

I am keen to play with my wee fliers, and crazy spells to zap each other with!

I got multiples of all of them from Troll Horde. Arrived within a week or so of release.

Thanks. I still can't find the dwarven fliers anywhere online... Are those even out?

 pancakeonions wrote:
Thanks. I still can't find the dwarven fliers anywhere online... Are those even out?

One of the designs wasn't received well, so they are being redone.

 DarkBlack wrote:

 pancakeonions wrote:
Thanks. I still can't find the dwarven fliers anywhere online... Are those even out?

One of the designs wasn't received well, so they are being redone.

Do you know what kind of fliers there will be? Some copters or more like planes?

Goonhammer put a review for the halfling beta army list, and you can see a few more pictures for the resin upgrades as well :

https://www.goonhammer.com/kings-of-war-the-halflings-are-here/





I like they went the "half knight" way for their elite units.

As for the bowmen / thieves :



They look nice too ! Hooded heads fit perfectly.


Will take a couple of these packs when they'll get out. Can't wait for my mega-army to be shipped !

I believe the units would look especially cooler if you choose the right torsos / heads with the style of the unit : like all armored bodies for more elite troops and keeping the leather armor / clothes for ranged units. Keeping dogs' armored heads for the elite / melee units also help to really put the difference with the others. That's why I went for the mega-army. You sure can build with fewer kits, but that way, I can differenciate the units better. And I wouldn't mind building an all-female gunner regiment.

Maybe I'm old school, but I miss a command option so far. Sure, I can always scratch-build a standard bearer and a musician, but would have been nice to have a set of arms specifically for them as well.

The knights are so cool. Shame they are resin upgrades.

Shadow Walker wrote:

 DarkBlack wrote:

 pancakeonions wrote:
Thanks. I still can't find the dwarven fliers anywhere online... Are those even out?

One of the designs wasn't received well, so they are being redone.

Do you know what kind of fliers there will be? Some copters or more like planes?

Sadly no.
There were zeppelins in the art though and that seemed like a popular idea,

 DarkBlack wrote:

Shadow Walker wrote:

 DarkBlack wrote:

 pancakeonions wrote:
Thanks. I still can't find the dwarven fliers anywhere online... Are those even out?

One of the designs wasn't received well, so they are being redone.

Do you know what kind of fliers there will be? Some copters or more like planes?

Sadly no.
There were zeppelins in the art though and that seemed like a popular idea,

Zeppelins would be great but after Halflings got their baloons they may want to make Dwarves fliers more different. Anyway I cannot wait to see what they will bring.

"No gyrocopters" was a big Mantic hangup in the "we're not not-WHFB" phase. We'll see if they backtrack on that one.