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**Danny76**

BertBert wrote:
The new mortarch looks interesting, possibly a nice base model for a C'tan conversion. Really like the henchmen on his base and the diorama-style as well.

The rest of the releases range from passable to hideous.

Ooh C’tan conversion. Yes. That could be a good shout.
Hopefully I can sell on all the other guys who individually want them..
Base, just as scenery..

**Sasori**

Overread wrote:
So GW its too soon to talk about Cities or Orruks but you did talk about Monsters and Adventurers and low and behold its the first thing from the Nova we see being released

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/09/01/coming-soon-legends-monsters-mercenaries/

Bit of a marketing gaff there! That said I'm very pleased to see these things coming!

First up we've got GOTREK the model for AoS (complete with squished skaven base); along with the written version of Realmslayer, a full new novel (his first for AoS) and a new audio story read by Brian Gotrek Blessed. I believe and earlier article mentioned that the Realmslayer book was going to have some general extra content in it too so it could well be a very shiny week to pick up some great books and stories!

Then there's the new book for Warcry! But that's not all. Iron Golems, Untambed Beasts and the Furies and Raptors are coming in their own boxes next week. Plus they've repacked the chimera with rules for Warcry (repacked version likely won't appear till the pre-orders go up so the one currently for sale is likely still the regular version). It might be prudent to hold off beast purchases too as they might repack one or two others. There's also options for taking things like Terrorgasts and more into your forces! Sounding very exciting and going up against things like dragons in a warband on warband on dragon setting is JUST what I was hoping from the game!

Yeah, I'm a bit suprised as well. I fully expected Cities and Warclans to be this week.

**Kanluwen**

Worth mentioning that the bit about Cities/Orruks wasn't actually from GW but was purportedly from someone talking to the staffers "after".

**Overread**

Kanluwen wrote:
Worth mentioning that the bit about Cities/Orruks wasn't actually from GW but was purportedly from someone talking to the staffers "after".

But the staffers are GW?

**Cronch**

That doesn't mean they know squat? If the "staff" was people hired to move displays or something equally thrilling, the chance of them knowing what the design/marketing dept cooked up is pretty slim.

**Kanluwen**

Overread wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Worth mentioning that the bit about Cities/Orruks wasn't actually from GW but was purportedly from someone talking to the staffers "after".

But the staffers are GW?

Meant more that it's possible that the claims were exaggerated.

**silent25**

When I saw the new undead, actually thought of Sideshow Collectible's Court of the Dead line. Namely Xiall, the Osteomancer. Complete with the weird carapace bone body, bone crafting, and nose.

**Mr Morden**

stonehorse wrote:
The new Gotrek is a gorgeous model! The base is a bit busy, but aside from that it is great. GW's Dwarfs have come a long way from when the models didn't have knees.

Just disapointed no Maleneth ....

**Overread**

A big block of Shadspire warbands just went out of sale on the GW stores around the world

This suggests taht he new Underworlds release is imminent, however it also seems odd that they've remove the older warbands since surely part of the attraction of the game was to get the warband for your force.

That or GW is going to release a combined card pack for all those forces; putting it in one purchase as the models themselves are still on sale. That would atl east get around the "gotta buy em-all" issue since GW chose to put different universal cards into each unit pack.

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Mr Morden wrote:
stonehorse wrote:
The new Gotrek is a gorgeous model! The base is a bit busy, but aside from that it is great. GW's Dwarfs have come a long way from when the models didn't have knees.

Just disapointed no Maleneth ....

Agreed, but then I think Maleneth has a long way to go to worm her way into anywhere near the same popularity as Gotrek. Give it a few more books and I'm sure we'll see a model of her too!

**H.B.M.C.**

Overread wrote:
A big block of Shadspire warbands just went out of sale on the GW stores around the world

Is there a list?

**Kanluwen**

Overread wrote:

This suggests taht he new Underworlds release is imminent, however it also seems odd that they've remove the older warbands since surely part of the attraction of the game was to get the warband for your force.

September 21st.

I have said this repeatedly. Go look on the "Coming Soon" page for Black Library. We literally have a preorder date for the novel, which will come out with the box.

I'm surprised that they pulled the sets but given how many of those cards might be on the ban/restricted list? It makes sense.

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H.B.M.C. wrote:
Overread wrote:
A big block of Shadspire warbands just went out of sale on the GW stores around the world
Is there a list?

Remember that GW calls the range "Warhammer Underworlds".
It's literally just the Shadespire Warbands that came out on their own.
The Warhammer Underworlds versions of the Sepulchral Guard, Farstriders, Magore's Fiends, Ironskull's Boyz, Spiteclaw Swarm, and The Chosen Axes are what went to "No Longer Available". The other versions(that didn't include the cards) are still available.

Garrek's Reavers and Steelheart's Champions(the two starter set warbands from Shadespire's season) are still in, since they came out solo with Nightvault.

**Sqorgar**

My guess is that Shadespire's general card pool will be depreciated. Rotation is common in card games to keep the card pool manageable, ever changing, and easier for beginners to jump in. Plus, there's too many cards to rerelease in a different format.

I would've thought that the warbands themselves would remain viable, but you still need the cards that come in the packs they no longer sell. If they just rereleased the warband-specific cards, that's something like 30 cards each or so, and they could repackage those... but I don't think they'll bother.

**balmong7**

Sqorgar wrote:
My guess is that Shadespire's general card pool will be depreciated. Rotation is common in card games to keep the card pool manageable, ever changing, and easier for beginners to jump in. Plus, there's too many cards to rerelease in a different format.

I would've thought that the warbands themselves would remain viable, but you still need the cards that come in the packs they no longer sell. If they just rereleased the warband-specific cards, that's something like 30 cards each or so, and they could repackage those... but I don't think they'll bother.

I don't know. I could see repackaged warbands for them with different cards. Since there are probably some new mechanics in Beastgrave, like how nightvault added magic.

**Kanluwen**

Sqorgar wrote:
My guess is that Shadespire's general card pool will be depreciated. Rotation is common in card games to keep the card pool manageable, ever changing, and easier for beginners to jump in. Plus, there's too many cards to rerelease in a different format.

I would've thought that the warbands themselves would remain viable, but you still need the cards that come in the packs they no longer sell. If they just rereleased the warband-specific cards, that's something like 30 cards each or so, and they could repackage those... but I don't think they'll bother.

It's also possible that they're setting things up to redo the sets with cards from Nightvault and Shadespire to make things a bit more newcomer friendly.

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balmong7 wrote:

I don't know. I could see repackaged warbands for them with different cards. Since there are probably some new mechanics in Beastgrave, like how nightvault added magic.

From what's been hinted at, we're not supposed to see anything as big as the addition of magic.

As a note, the "Leaders" card pack(which was for Shadespire not Nightvault) is now gone too. It's very likely that they're repackaging the sets to include the Leader cards as well.

**Theophony**

I do hope that it's all new cards and better tested so we don't have to look up FAQs for whats restricted and whats banned. A completely new starting point would be great as well. I started getting the bands after shadespire had been out for a while and finally got all of them.

With all the figs available separately, I could see them making new cards for the available bands and giving some of the season 1 warband figures magic.

**Danny76**

Kanluwen wrote:
Sqorgar wrote:
My guess is that Shadespire's general card pool will be depreciated. Rotation is common in card games to keep the card pool manageable, ever changing, and easier for beginners to jump in. Plus, there's too many cards to rerelease in a different format.

I would've thought that the warbands themselves would remain viable, but you still need the cards that come in the packs they no longer sell. If they just rereleased the warband-specific cards, that's something like 30 cards each or so, and they could repackage those... but I don't think they'll bother.

It's also possible that they're setting things up to redo the sets with cards from Nightvault and Shadespire to make things a bit more newcomer friendly.

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balmong7 wrote:

I don't know. I could see repackaged warbands for them with different cards. Since there are probably some new mechanics in Beastgrave, like how nightvault added magic.

From what's been hinted at, we're not supposed to see anything as big as the addition of magic.

As a note, the "Leaders" card pack(which was for Shadespire not Nightvault) is now gone too. It's very likely that they're repackaging the sets to include the Leader cards as well.

Makes sense, as they want it to be easy entry to the hobby anyway don’t they.
So that would help, condense cards a bit etc..

**Binabik15**

I lost the skull hat for my beasthandler gal when I bumped into my hobby desk at night...sigh*. maybe I'll be able to get her from ebay for a decent price.

*And to think that I wanted to mould it to use the copies as Nostramon lion skulls on my Night Lords, doubly painful.

**stonehorse**

I think GW are adding in rotation to Warhammer Underworlds. The Warbands released in Shadespire along with their cards, and boards will be rotated out. They are no all showing no longer available on the GW site. How this effects tournament play is going to be interesting to see, I imagine that GW will not allow them at organised events, so only Warbands, cards and boards released during Nightvault and Beastgrave will be allowed, then when season 4 comes out, only Beastgrave and season 4 will be allowed.

From a business sense it makes sense, for to make the new products attractive so people don't just stick to their old collection. From a gamers point of view it is slightly annoying, luckily for me I have all the Warhammer Underworlds stuff, but it sure would have been nice for GW to announce this.

**Theophony**

stonehorse wrote:
I think GW are adding in rotation to Warhammer Underworlds. The Warbands released in Shadespire along with their cards, and boards will be rotated out. They are no all showing no longer available on the GW site. How this effects tournament play is going to be interesting to see, I imagine that GW will not allow them at organised events, so only Warbands, cards and boards released during Nightvault and Beastgrave will be allowed, then when season 4 comes out, only Beastgrave and season 4 will be allowed.

From a business sense it makes sense, for to make the new products attractive so people don't just stick to their old collection. From a gamers point of view it is slightly annoying, luckily for me I have all the Warhammer Underworlds stuff, but it sure would have been nice for GW to announce this.

I think you posted in the wrong thread.

But like what has been stated already in the other thread, the models will be available still in the easy to build AOS kits. Season 3 Beastgrave looks like a new starting point, so it makes sense if they are starting from scratch that they will have all new cards for warbands.

**Equinox**

Admittedly, this guy is tempting just because I once enjoyed herohammer.

**Boss Salvage**

WOW. Literally awesome rules for a Gotrek turned up past 11. Appreciate the memorial to Felix as well.

**Belasko**

Need a model now for Bugman with his tankard. Give him abilities to make him fight like Jackie Chan in Drunken Master

**Alpharius**

I was going to get this model anyway, but now?

Wow!

**Future War Cultist**

He’s a fething monster in a fight.

And you couldn’t have it any other way really.

**Manfred von Drakken**

Future War Cultist wrote:
He’s a fething monster in a fight.

And you couldn’t have it any other way really.

More like several monsters, since he can more than go toe-to-toe with anything in the game - including, apparently, all 4 Greater Daemons AT THE SAME TIME.

**Alpharius**

I love it!

**Tyranid Horde**

That's a fantastic looking model, brilliant rules too!

**Voss**

Really, why is this kind of piece in the game?

Rule wise it's ridiculous, and fluff wise he's entirely out of place.

**Overread**

Voss wrote:
Really, why is this kind of piece in the game?

Rule wise it's ridiculous, and fluff wise he's entirely out of place.

How so? He appears in several major battles through the novels in the Old World and he'll likely appear in more than one in the Realms once he gets going!
As for the rules he's got a high chance of avoiding damage and a high chance of dealing out a lot of damage, but at the same time he's got 4 inches of movement and he cannot be "placed" once he's on the table. So that shuts down most teleporting and transporting options. Plus if your opponent takes specific spells and boosters that means even more than 500 points going into a single 40mm base model. That's a huge amount on a single spear tip that you can avoid, deflect, distract or otherwise ignore if you play right.

Sure if you charge your big Keeper of Secrets right at him it will die; same as if you charge anything big and scary at him - that's basically his ideal target.

**CoreCommander**

IMO fluffwise a dwarf turned into an avatar of his god(or whatever Gotrek became during the endtimes) is more in line with the setting than many other remnants of warhammer carried into AOS

I think GW really aced with this model.