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With vehicles now being more integrated into the CC loop. How do you guys feel about the drop pod now being able to do some kind of concussive/splat attack when it lands?
I realize this was potentially possible before but it just seems more like a no brainer now.
It would feel more fluffy too.

Vim

ERJAK wrote:


Oh look, another person that thinks that just because they saw an incredibly obvious potential issue in an article written by a PR guy with no context as to how it functions amongst the larger ruleset who thinks that it's 100% immutable fact that it works exactly how it sounds, and that by seeing this, again incredibly obvious thing, thinks they solved some kind of secret code that only THEY were smart enough to see.

You saw it, I saw it, the rules people probably saw it, the playtesters definitely saw it. Does that mean it's guaranteed to have been fixed? No. Would it be stupid to have abaddon die because a rhino hit a bush? Yes. Well I mean not abaddon specifically but, like a good character, yes it would suck. But you're not special because you can read.

I don't think the rule will ignore characters. It makes sense that you don't get to rid a combat beast up without risk that will strike first when they charge and likely kill anything they hit. If it goes the other way - fair enough. If not - bring CP.

 vim_the_good wrote:
With vehicles now being more integrated into the CC loop. How do you guys feel about the drop pod now being able to do some kind of concussive/splat attack when it lands?
I realize this was potentially possible before but it just seems more like a no brainer now.
It would feel more fluffy too.

Vim

hehe. I crush your little head!

 vim_the_good wrote:
With vehicles now being more integrated into the CC loop. How do you guys feel about the drop pod now being able to do some kind of concussive/splat attack when it lands?
I realize this was potentially possible before but it just seems more like a no brainer now.
It would feel more fluffy too.

Vim

Nope, I'm perfectly happy with them having to land at least 9" away.

 vim_the_good wrote:
With vehicles now being more integrated into the CC loop. How do you guys feel about the drop pod now being able to do some kind of concussive/splat attack when it lands?
I realize this was potentially possible before but it just seems more like a no brainer now.
It would feel more fluffy too.

Vim

Normal drop pods need to be 9", but you may see that special one be able to deploy closer and do something like that.

 vim_the_good wrote:
With vehicles now being more integrated into the CC loop. How do you guys feel about the drop pod now being able to do some kind of concussive/splat attack when it lands?
I realize this was potentially possible before but it just seems more like a no brainer now.
It would feel more fluffy too.

Vim

You have to place it 9" away now, so unfortunately there won't be a fist from the heavens attack.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I spoke to my GW manager yesterday, and apparently he is going to Dallas, TX this week for a big seminar on 8th edition. So we should be finding out a lot more soon depending on how tight-lipped some managers are or are not.

Yep, same with mine. He promised to drop questionably correct vague hints.

 Rippy wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:

 Sidstyler wrote:
Man, vehicles might as well be useless now. First they made it so land raiders could be killed by lasguns, now this?!

I'm gonna burn my models!

What is then the focus of the new edition. Its not on vehicles.
Is it on basic infantry (troops)?

Focus is on balance; bring what you want, it's all viable, though balance your build to deal with anything

Balancing is wishful thinking. Its not achievable since the problem is NP-hard I guess.

 MasterSlowPoke wrote:

 vim_the_good wrote:
With vehicles now being more integrated into the CC loop. How do you guys feel about the drop pod now being able to do some kind of concussive/splat attack when it lands?
I realize this was potentially possible before but it just seems more like a no brainer now.
It would feel more fluffy too.

Vim

You have to place it 9" away now, so unfortunately there won't be a fist from the heavens attack.

Well there's couple fw pods that work like flier after deep strike that already had rules for killing enemies with heat blast...

 wuestenfux wrote:

 Sidstyler wrote:
Man, vehicles might as well be useless now. First they made it so land raiders could be killed by lasguns, now this?!

I'm gonna burn my models!

What is then the focus of the new edition. Its not on vehicles.
Is it on basic infantry (troops)?

According to GW the focus was balance, so ideally both should be valid ways to approach the game.


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 wuestenfux wrote:

 Rippy wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:

 Sidstyler wrote:
Man, vehicles might as well be useless now. First they made it so land raiders could be killed by lasguns, now this?!

I'm gonna burn my models!

What is then the focus of the new edition. Its not on vehicles.
Is it on basic infantry (troops)?

Focus is on balance; bring what you want, it's all viable, though balance your build to deal with anything

Balancing is wishful thinking. Its not achievable since the problem is NP-hard I guess.

If GW upholds their feedback to adjust the game thing, then balance isn't impossible, but we won,t see quick adjustments since things are generally only going to be updated once a year, pending any accidental game breaking sort of rule bugs.

Warhams-77 wrote:
Any more news from shops whether preorders for 8th will start this saturday?

MongooseMatt? BrookM? Anyone else of the reliable folks with new info?

The Preorder list should be sent to LFGS today

Nothing as of yet, they're surprisingly late, which is unusual in and of itself, as these things are usually shared Monday morning, as early as possible, so shops have enough time to put their orders in.

 BrookM wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
Any more news from shops whether preorders for 8th will start this saturday?

MongooseMatt? BrookM? Anyone else of the reliable folks with new info?

The Preorder list should be sent to LFGS today

Nothing as of yet, they're surprisingly late, which is unusual in and of itself, as these things are usually shared Monday morning, as early as possible, so shops have enough time to put their orders in.

New editions tend to have a two week pre-order. Not being out until later today isn't a huge deal. They may be withholding releasing the info until after they finish their meetings with the GW reps on the new edition.

Hoping today's community post spills something on the release date, they tend to put the big stuff out on Mondays

 BrookM wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
Any more news from shops whether preorders for 8th will start this saturday?

MongooseMatt? BrookM? Anyone else of the reliable folks with new info?

The Preorder list should be sent to LFGS today

Nothing as of yet, they're surprisingly late, which is unusual in and of itself, as these things are usually shared Monday morning, as early as possible, so shops have enough time to put their orders in.

They will do it tomorrow. At least for Europe, I think.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 BrookM wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
Any more news from shops whether preorders for 8th will start this saturday?

MongooseMatt? BrookM? Anyone else of the reliable folks with new info?

The Preorder list should be sent to LFGS today

Nothing as of yet, they're surprisingly late, which is unusual in and of itself, as these things are usually shared Monday morning, as early as possible, so shops have enough time to put their orders in.

New editions tend to have a two week pre-order. Not being out until later today isn't a huge deal. They may be withholding releasing the info until after they finish their meetings with the GW reps on the new edition.

Seventh only had a one week preorder.

I just want to see all the Primaris stuff in the starter!

 xttz wrote:
Hoping today's community post spills something on the release date, they tend to put the big stuff out on Mondays

Wait, what? It was already leaked (with WD pics) on that Italian rumor forum that June 10th was the preorder & June 17th the release. I thought this was already talked about here. No?

 krazynadechukr wrote:

 xttz wrote:
Hoping today's community post spills something on the release date, they tend to put the big stuff out on Mondays

Wait, what? It was already leaked (with WD pics) on that Italian rumor forum that June 10th was the preorder & June 17th the release. I thought this was already talked about here. No?

Link?

 krazynadechukr wrote:

 xttz wrote:
Hoping today's community post spills something on the release date, they tend to put the big stuff out on Mondays

Wait, what? It was already leaked (with WD pics) on that Italian rumor forum that June 10th was the preorder & June 17th the release. I thought this was already talked about here. No?

That was a pic of the next available date for WD, which has been pushed to June 16th.

 krazynadechukr wrote:

 xttz wrote:
Hoping today's community post spills something on the release date, they tend to put the big stuff out on Mondays

Wait, what? It was already leaked (with WD pics) on that Italian rumor forum that June 10th was the preorder & June 17th the release. I thought this was already talked about here. No?

Nope. Can you link them so Rippy can add them to the OP?

That's the WD release date, not necessarily 8E's release date.

Hm...looks like today's article is a little late.

 NivlacSupreme wrote:

 krazynadechukr wrote:

 xttz wrote:
Hoping today's community post spills something on the release date, they tend to put the big stuff out on Mondays

Wait, what? It was already leaked (with WD pics) on that Italian rumor forum that June 10th was the preorder & June 17th the release. I thought this was already talked about here. No?

Link?

Looking now. It was the article about how all the GW stores needed all the new terrain done by or before June 10th, and no one can be on vacation June 10-18th, and that the reason the June WD will be 2 weeks late is to keep the pre order date a secret longer... Even my local GW manager (a friend of 10+ years before he was in GW) said there is a huge "special event" June 10th and for me to be there and not miss this huge event. Also, After an official announcement Games Workshop tends not to stretch out the release longer than two weeks. Which, two weeks after the end of the month is June 10th… It all seems clear.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 krazynadechukr wrote:

 xttz wrote:
Hoping today's community post spills something on the release date, they tend to put the big stuff out on Mondays

Wait, what? It was already leaked (with WD pics) on that Italian rumor forum that June 10th was the preorder & June 17th the release. I thought this was already talked about here. No?

Nope. Can you link them so Rippy can add them to the OP?

They're already in the OP.

There was a few items that have come up.

An internal Memo to store managers that said they couldn't take a vacation between June 7th (pre-release) and June 17th (release).

The picture at the end of the White Dwarf that listed the next issue was delayed until June 16th.

The fact that this week Store managers will be in Dallas for information on 8th edition.

All of these point to probably a June 17th release date. Even though, it hasn't been announced officially.

That would mean if the White Dwarf has a battle report about 8th edition and some interesting fluff pieces or old out of print character dataslates. It wouldn't expose anything useful until the day before release. Since, everything useful will be on the internet in about 20 minutes of anyone getting the magazine.

Is it just me or is the new article today kinda late?
Hope the Ultramar conflict zone features the Ultrasmurfs getting their butts kicked for a change.

 krazynadechukr wrote:

 NivlacSupreme wrote:

 krazynadechukr wrote:

 xttz wrote:
Hoping today's community post spills something on the release date, they tend to put the big stuff out on Mondays

Wait, what? It was already leaked (with WD pics) on that Italian rumor forum that June 10th was the preorder & June 17th the release. I thought this was already talked about here. No?

Link?

Looking now. It was the article about how all the GW stores needed all the new terrain done by or before June 10th, and no one can be on vacation June 10-18th, and that the reason the June WD will be 2 weeks late is to keep the pre order date a secret longer... Even my local GW manager (a friend of 10+ years before he was in GW) said there is a huge "special event" June 10th and for me to be there and not miss this huge event. Also, After an official announcement Games Workshop tends not to stretch out the release longer than two weeks. Which, two weeks after the end of the month is June 10th… It all seems clear.

The understanding is that GW stores needed to have the new terrain done by or before June 10th because they want demo boards for the starter set.

In the spanish WD, the date was 9 june.

 krazynadechukr wrote:

 NivlacSupreme wrote:

 krazynadechukr wrote:

 xttz wrote:
Hoping today's community post spills something on the release date, they tend to put the big stuff out on Mondays

Wait, what? It was already leaked (with WD pics) on that Italian rumor forum that June 10th was the preorder & June 17th the release. I thought this was already talked about here. No?

Link?

Looking now. It was the article about how all the GW stores needed all the new terrain done by or before June 10th, and no one can be on vacation June 10-18th, and that the reason the June WD will be 2 weeks late is to keep the pre order date a secret longer... Even my local GW manager (a friend of 10+ years before he was in GW) said there is a huge "special event" June 10th and for me to be there and not miss this huge event. Also, After an official announcement Games Workshop tends not to stretch out the release longer than two weeks. Which, two weeks after the end of the month is June 10th… It all seems clear.

june 9th in spanish white dwarf oO

zamerion wrote:
In the spanish WD, the date was 9 june.

Well, now that's just super confusing.