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Clousseau





Wilmington DE

See, I don't disagree with that:

The rules are clear.
And I am a bad person.

I'm just not clear what effect that has in game terms?

*Sigh*, at least in Warmachine, it's spelled out in p. 5.


Guinness: for those who are men of the cloth and football fans, but not necessarily in that order.

I think the lesson here is the best way to enjoy GW's games is to not use any of their rules.--Crimson Devil 
   
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Bloodtracker




Seek and ye shall find

Posted By syr8766 on 12/27/2006 5:50 AM
*Sigh*, at least in Warmachine, it's spelled out in p. 5.


I'm sure that if GW had a Page 5, it would come with disclaimers and require an FAQ for when it does or dosen't apply. And eratta...yeah...lots of eratta... :S

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RogueSangre





The Cockatrice Malediction

Posted By imthedci on 12/27/2006 6:37 AM
Posted By syr8766 on 12/27/2006 5:50 AM
*Sigh*, at least in Warmachine, it's spelled out in p. 5.


I'm sure that if GW had a Page 5, it would come with disclaimers and require an FAQ for when it does or dosen't apply. And eratta...yeah...lots of eratta... :S
I think it would just call you a bad person for trying to win by playing by their rules.  In a very snarky way.
   
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Pirate Ship Revenge

There's nothing wrong with piles of eratta. It's inconvenient but at least problems are adressed. It's WAY better than having nothing.
I think the point is (I'll use Warmachine as an example) that in Warmachine the rules writers spell out that they expect you to use every trick and every advantage at your disposal to win at all costs. But you have to follow the rules to do it.
GW has told you that if you follow the rules you're a bad sport. The next FAQ will tell us that if we don't break the rules in order to pull off a loss we're big meanies. The one after that will tell us that realy we shouldn't play the game at all. Just buy the pretty figures and be happy that they let us buy them at all 'cuse they're way cooler than what we deserve.
The last one will tell you kill yourself and leave your estate to the company.

I have nothing useful to add.
http://otzone.proboards34.com/index.cgi>the OT
Welp, that link ain't no good nomore. 
   
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Clousseau





Wilmington DE

Posted By Zubbiefish on 12/27/2006 8:19 AM
There's nothing wrong with piles of eratta. It's inconvenient but at least problems are adressed. It's WAY better than having nothing.
I think the point is (I'll use Warmachine as an example) that in Warmachine the rules writers spell out that they expect you to use every trick and every advantage at your disposal to win at all costs. But you have to follow the rules to do it.
GW has told you that if you follow the rules you're a bad sport. The next FAQ will tell us that if we don't break the rules in order to pull off a loss we're big meanies. The one after that will tell us that realy we shouldn't play the game at all. Just buy the pretty figures and be happy that they let us buy them at all 'cuse they're way cooler than what we deserve.
The last one will tell you kill yourself and leave your estate to the company.
I await the FAQ on the method of suicide and estate leaving before taking further action.

EDIT: so back in the day, my buds and I tried to write a role-playing game, and we filled it--on purpose--with dozens of meaningless and contradictory table. My favorite result on one of them was that on a d100 roll of 100, you called Gary Gygax (phone number provided) and ask him.   

Guinness: for those who are men of the cloth and football fans, but not necessarily in that order.

I think the lesson here is the best way to enjoy GW's games is to not use any of their rules.--Crimson Devil 
   
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Abhorrent Grotesque Aberration





I still don't remember clipping being truly "fixed" in the last edition. I remember the big long articles on it, and what you should and shouldn't do, but I remember the same conclusion. That you shouldn't try to do it. It didn't seem to firmly state anything just like the FAQ.

A couple of weeks ago we had an issue of clipping, with a unit and two chariots. The chariots could only contact diagonally after the unit had charged. There was grumbling about it, but no real argument and in the end it was allowed. All parties involved were not exactly happy though, so it would be nice to see a fix, but it isn't absolutely necessary. But, I play for fun.

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. 
   
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Foul Dwimmerlaik






Minneapolis, MN

Posted By syr8766 on 12/27/2006 8:33 AM
Posted By Zubbiefish on 12/27/2006 8:19 AM
There's nothing wrong with piles of eratta. It's inconvenient but at least problems are adressed. It's WAY better than having nothing.
I think the point is (I'll use Warmachine as an example) that in Warmachine the rules writers spell out that they expect you to use every trick and every advantage at your disposal to win at all costs. But you have to follow the rules to do it.
GW has told you that if you follow the rules you're a bad sport. The next FAQ will tell us that if we don't break the rules in order to pull off a loss we're big meanies. The one after that will tell us that realy we shouldn't play the game at all. Just buy the pretty figures and be happy that they let us buy them at all 'cuse they're way cooler than what we deserve.
The last one will tell you kill yourself and leave your estate to the company.
I await the FAQ on the method of suicide and estate leaving before taking further action.

EDIT: so back in the day, my buds and I tried to write a role-playing game, and we filled it--on purpose--with dozens of meaningless and contradictory table. My favorite result on one of them was that on a d100 roll of 100, you called Gary Gygax (phone number provided) and ask him.   

oooh great idea. GW should leak all 12 of Kirby's cell phone numbers so that we might ask him how many inches movement allows in the opponents shooting phase.

   
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Clousseau





Wilmington DE

They should also start installing animatronic Andy Chambers (from 1994, natch) in every game store in the world. Put in $1, have him read your (army's) fortune.

"Your Ork army is beautiful. Too bad it will lose. You should have played Chaos!"

Guinness: for those who are men of the cloth and football fans, but not necessarily in that order.

I think the lesson here is the best way to enjoy GW's games is to not use any of their rules.--Crimson Devil 
   
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Plastictrees



Amongst the Stars, In the Night

But Andy was an Ork player!

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The Loyal Slave learns to Love the Lash! 
   
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Clousseau





Wilmington DE

AND a chaos player! Remember your history!

Guinness: for those who are men of the cloth and football fans, but not necessarily in that order.

I think the lesson here is the best way to enjoy GW's games is to not use any of their rules.--Crimson Devil 
   
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Madrak Ironhide







I think Sai Andy was a robot.

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"...he could never understand the sense of a contest in which the two adversaries agreed upon the rules." Gabriel Garcia Marquez, One Hundred Years of Solitude 
   
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Clousseau





Wilmington DE

I'd have recommended a 'Fat Bloke' machine, but it would just be offended by the question, and I'm pretty sure you couldn't put a bacon buttie in a machine...

Guinness: for those who are men of the cloth and football fans, but not necessarily in that order.

I think the lesson here is the best way to enjoy GW's games is to not use any of their rules.--Crimson Devil 
   
Made in us
Plastictrees



Amongst the Stars, In the Night

Not to mention that PD would scare off the "Fat Bloke" bot after asking said "offensive" question.

OT Zone: A More Wretched Hive of Scum and Villany
The Loyal Slave learns to Love the Lash! 
   
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40kenthus






Yoor Speeshawl too Gawd!

Posted By nyarlathotep667 on 12/27/2006 12:41 PM
But Andy was an Ork player!


He was not a good one.   I was undeafeated with my Orks.  They were a blast to run, shootier than any other army with the vaccine squig and a 100 strong ablative gretchin screen they were nigh unstoppable.  They were the most fun of any thing to play and caused more havoc with weird rules and support choices than any army in the history of the game.  Of course  that was before the dark times, before 3rd-4th edition.

Only now do I realize how much I prefer Pete Haines' "misprints" to Gav Thorpe's "brainfarts." :Abadabadoobaddon 
   
 
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