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reds8n wrote:Yes, I believe that is true.

That is very old-school. I gotta say I like all the 2nd ed. touches they've been working into 5th ed. 40K here and there. Kudos to Mr. Jervis for that.

So...were one so inclined to wonder where this information were coming from, where would one do best to look? (Even if it's in German...perhaps one only wants stat lines and point costs).

Hypothetically.

Next week at your local GW store since apparently preview copies are in stores next week

Oops. Double post.

Well the retailer of my FLGS said he was told there wouldn't be preview codexes. This was several weeks ago, just before the Black Boxes came. I've asked a few times since then, he never said that he's heard anything different.

And I was at the GW store in Atlanta three days ago, asked if there would be a preview coming. They said nope.

So, again, it begs the question, where does all this come from? Is this someone official who's said that preview codexes are coming, because every retailer I've spoken to (GW stores included) indicate the opposite.

From what I've been seeing/hearing most stores are supposed to have their copies by next week/weekend.

I'm gathering the German one is from German stores which usually see stuff earlier than we do as they are on that side of the pond.

So either the stores around you are the exception or managers don't want to let it out early that they get it next week...

sirisaacnuton wrote:So, again, it begs the question, where does all this come from? Is this someone official who's said that preview codexes are coming, because every retailer I've spoken to (GW stores included) indicate the opposite.

No way to say , either:
a) someone got excited and cant hold back to not leak the codex
or
b) GW's sales strategy to pump us up by showing the goodies ahead of time so we can build up a frenzy to purchase.

either way the info is legit .

I'm wondering if I understand this correctly: If you have a bone sword and lash whip you get power weapon with ld test on wound or ID and opp I is 1, and with a pair of bone swords you get power weapon with the ld test on 3d6? Anybody heard of a bone sword/lashwhip bits pack yet?

I haven't ran the numbers yet but at first blush Zoans appear better at popping armor than any melta-equivalent. The only competition I see in the Elite slot against Zoans look like the super stealers. Does the Tervigon Catalyst power work on any unit though or just Terms? From what I see, it's any unit...if so he's pretty damn good;

9X Zoans with Warp Blast Lance
3++ save with FNP at 2 wounds each ^^
No more AT problems for Nids

mikesorensonxx wrote:I'm wondering if I understand this correctly: If you have a bone sword and lash whip you get power weapon with ld test on wound or ID and opp I is 1, and with a pair of bone swords you get power weapon with the ld test on 3d6? Anybody heard of a bone sword/lashwhip bits pack yet?

Hmm while we are talking about bone swords , allow me to present Tyranid version of General Grievous:
The strongest melee Tyranid o_O


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AgeOfEgos wrote:I haven't ran the numbers yet but at first blush Zoans appear better at popping armor than any melta-equivalent. The only competition I see in the Elite slot against Zoans look like the super stealers. Does the Tervigon Catalyst power work on any unit though or just Terms? From what I see, it's any unit...if so he's pretty damn good;

9X Zoans with Warp Blast Lance
3++ save with FNP at 2 wounds each ^^
No more AT problems for Nids

Current rumor is 3 wounds each, even better. That picture is awesome, with bone swords becoming more prevelant they better have a way of making them available. Judging by the other pictures a tervigon/tyrannofex box set would be good. So would a Hive tyrant/Harpy set to make the flying tyrant. And a warrior upgrade sprue with wings, bone swords, lashwhips, and alpha warrior parts. Am I missing anything besides special characters/mutants?

Too bad you have to buy 4 Tyrants to make one. :p

But I dunno about the Swarmlord; he looks funky all right, but he's a mayor point investment for something that still has to footslog across the board to get into combat.

mikesorensonxx wrote:I'm wondering if I understand this correctly: If you have a bone sword and lash whip you get power weapon with ld test on wound or ID and opp I is 1, and with a pair of bone swords you get power weapon with the ld test on 3d6? Anybody heard of a bone sword/lashwhip bits pack yet?

That is correct and there is a power available to the Tyrant that lowers enemy WS and BS to 1.

So use power to lower WS to 1 (not by 1 but down to 1); charge in and use the whip to lower that same squads I to 1 and then smack the squad with 4 or 5 attacks (or a IC) at higher Initiative and then whatever is left needs 5's to hit the Tyrant in return.

I'm going to run mine with LW/Bonesword and a pair of talons (allow me to reroll any pesky 1's that pop up) and going to run with 3 Tyrant Guard to help soak up wounds and to make the Initiative and WS lowering powers that much more detrimental for the target unit.

If you take the Deathleaper use his ability to lower the LD of any psyker by D3 and go libby hunting. His powers will very rarely go off and the Bonesword has a very good chance of instakilling the psyker (ld test at ld7 for every wound suffered by the sword or one dead librarian).

mikesorensonxx wrote:Current rumor is 3 wounds each, even better. That picture is awesome, with bone swords becoming more prevelant they better have a way of making them available. Judging by the other pictures a tervigon/tyrannofex box set would be good. So would a Hive tyrant/Harpy set to make the flying tyrant. And a warrior upgrade sprue with wings, bone swords, lashwhips, and alpha warrior parts. Am I missing anything besides special characters/mutants?

The rumour is false, they still have 2 wounds. And yeah, since Warriors and Tyrant Guard can now take Boneswords some appropiatly sized swords would be nice.

mikesorensonxx wrote:
Current rumor is 3 wounds each, even better. That picture is awesome, with bone swords becoming more prevelant they better have a way of making them available. Judging by the other pictures a tervigon/tyrannofex box set would be good. So would a Hive tyrant/Harpy set to make the flying tyrant. And a warrior upgrade sprue with wings, bone swords, lashwhips, and alpha warrior parts. Am I missing anything besides special characters/mutants?

Tyranid Warrior is the one with 3 wounds.
Zoans are 2 wound but have 3+ invul

Im thinking its time to start ordering up some plasticard
Boneswords are of use again

also, the Harpy seems interesting 0_o
I may go for a weird and wonderful army with a mix of everything lol.

Fateweaver wrote:I'm going to run mine with LW/Bonesword and a pair of talons (allow me to reroll any pesky 1's that pop up) and going to run with 3 Tyrant Guard to help soak up wounds and to make the Initiative and WS lowering powers that much more detrimental for the target unit.

Expensive couple of models though, that's 350 points or something. Funny bit about the Tyrant Guard now though, it seems they're no longer a retinue but a seperate unit. Seperate Swarmlords and Hive Tyrants (including flying ones, but they're hella expensive and can't get Warp Field anymore ) can join the unit of Tyrant Guard as if they're Independant Characters. I guess that means opponents can single out the Tyrant in Melee too. I reckon that's why they get Rage and Furious Charge if their Tyrant is killed.

May be expensive, but expensive units are not allways a waste.
Aslong as you play them to thier full extent they will get thier points back and work fine.

2 good examples:


1: Bikernobz with a warboss.
2: Crushers with skulltaker.

That Swarmlord has aroused a vile blood lust in me that only tabling an Imperial Guard army will satisfy. And yes, I believe that some plasticard must be had, because I don't see them putting out a kit for it.

Redemption wrote:
Expensive couple of models though, that's 350 points or something. Funny bit about the Tyrant Guard now though, it seems they're no longer a retinue but a seperate unit. Seperate Swarmlords and Hive Tyrants (including flying ones, but they're hella expensive and can't get Warp Field anymore ) can join the unit of Tyrant Guard as if they're Independant Characters. I guess that means opponents can single out the Tyrant in Melee too. I reckon that's why they get Rage and Furious Charge if their Tyrant is killed.

That good though, it was going to be silly if the only general with a decent body guard was a giant monster...

Jack

P.S. Yes I know IG command squads also get body guards...hyperbole people.

Just a thought, but wouldnt it make sense to use deathleaper to drop a characters LD by 3, then charge in with boneswords (pair)
That way they are making a test on 3D6 with a max LD of 7 lol.


However, you can also do that then instead of combat, use Psychic scream to snipe the character.

Tyranids using coordinated surgical strikes?

Heretic!

Dont go turning all good on me now luna
The evil luna is alot better.


but yea, it works doesent it?

Thanks for the info LunaHound!

How does the Pyrovore look? Is it as mediocre as the initial rumors suggest?

Ninja: Its a bad case mate.
the model looks amazing!
However, i would compare them to flashgitz lol.

Expensive for thier use, and you dont get alot for them.

Also, they are being pitted against deathleaper, lictors, thropes etc for an elite slot.
Its not a good case

Lucky for my super poor rolling, i normaly pass pretty much every Ld based check (1's and 2's ftw)

Still... boneswords are gunna be nasty. The tyannofex sounds like the nid's answer to mech armies (along with the zonathrope's str 10 ap 1 lance attack)

Aye, it's a basically a 45 point footslogging Heavy Flamer that explodes when shot. Yay...

Super: average roll on 3D6 = 10
So most characters will only just pass it.
throw in a nice -3 - -4 and people are dead.

Seems like the new nids will be a case of actually using tactics, rather than nidzilla stomping around.
Also, it makes them interesting, the new mix's in tactics means they should be even nastier than before if used right.



On that note, i just got a confirmation mail from forgeworld about my order lol, time to get the khornate daemons back and running again ready for the nids.

JD21290 wrote:Ninja: Its a bad case mate.
the model looks amazing!
However, i would compare them to flashgitz lol.

Expensive for thier use, and you dont get alot for them.

Also, they are being pitted against deathleaper, lictors, thropes etc for an elite slot.
Its not a good case

You're probably right, but depending oh what they cost I might test out a single unit of them. Does anyone know how far they can toss their flamer template?

45 points, they explode, and they are pretty much a heavy flamer as said.
TBH mate, i would go with something different.

The elite slot seems to be for tank hunters and nasties in the nid army.
With both hive guards and thropes being good at it.
Deathleaper and lictors still have alot of benefits aswell.

So with all that taking into mind, i doubt you will see them about.
Ill be using them, but as biovores instead, since GW ruine dthem lol.