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I agree. Can't wait to buy me some plastic White Lions AND Phoenix Guard. Specially seems as they're plastic. Can anyone say hello conversions?

Dang it, I was really looking forwards to Mantic plastic palace guard but I also really like white lions!

This is good news for me - my Phoenix Guard and White Lion units are cobbled together from various metals from as far back as 4th edition.

In particular I'm looking forward to a new Phoenix Guard champion as the current one looks a bit of a shrinking violet; in fact the whole lot lack that 'sentinel' look that some of the older ones had.

Just to keep this information in a thread with the right title, before the "big announcement" thread is locked
Official GW pics released today


Prince Althran on foot (same prince as in starter box on griffon).
Special miniature for

GW website wrote:And believe it or not, that's just the beginning of the celebrations: the 23rd of October is the global The Island of Blood battle day, when every Hobby Centre around the world will be hosting a refight of the Battle for the Island of Blood between the forces of the High Elves and the Skaven. We'll feature the results, as well as highlights from some of the most impressive games from around the globe, here on 'What's New Today' - so if you want to be part of the action and help make wargaming history, make sure you pop along to your local Hobby Centre and get involved. To commemorate the occasion, we're even releasing two special edition miniatures, Prince Althran on foot and Warlord Spinetail. Both miniatures will be available from the day of the global battle (23rd October).

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=12600012a



First official pic of the black box with Dragon Prince and White Lion sprues.
Additional info by frgt/10:
Dragon Prince legs sculpted to the horse body, horses have 6 parts (2 halves of the body, 2 front legs, and 2 halves of the head), no Phoenix Guard in the Black Box. Concerning conversion Plans: "Horses are too small for blood knights, and the armour too good for grail knights"

High Elves were my first ever army, so what better time to make a return than with all of their elite troops that define the army being released in plastic?

First painted pics of the new plastics, found by Scryer over at Warseer:







Hope the advance order pics are also uploaded today.

BTW the Dragon Princes look very retro, still own the old metals in that style.
And I will use the Phoenix Guard as standard spearmen, just clipping of the halbard blade -> problem solved (as I like the current metal Phoenix Guard)

I like the PG, and the helms on the Prince's horse remind me of an old 2 parter episdoe of "Robin of Sherwood"..so that's a solid win in my book.

The PG helms are more like how I think the Night Lord ones should have been done in a way.

Less sure about the WL...axes maybe a little big but ..plastic is better anyway I guess.

Kroothawk wrote:And I will use the Phoenix Guard as standard spearmen, just clipping of the halbard blade -> problem solved (as I like the current metal Phoenix Guard)

I can't help but feel disappointed in the new Phoenix Guard. The helmets are a bit silly. They might be fixed by cutting off the wings and gluing them on sideways so they don't stick out so far, but that's a lot of modeling work on a lot of very small bits. And the whole regiment looks like it's about to fall over backwards. I do like the cloaks and the man-skirt armour though.

I've never been much of a fan of the White Lions conceptually. I'm not excited by them, but then I've never liked them. The axes look way too big for a start.

Those Dragon Princes, on the other hand, make an extremely compelling argument. Between those and the IoB Reavers, I'm having trouble thinking of any reason I'd ever want Silverhelm models.

All in all it's a small step in the right direction, but not enough to push me into starting that High Elf army I've always dreamed of.

Errr, those Phoenix Guard.....chunky much?

Hmm. So White Lions, Phoenix Guard, and Dragon Princes. Wasn't it rumored that there'd be 4 plastic boxes, 2 metal boxes, and 2 blisters? It's seems like we know what one of the two blisters will be now, but are there any othe developments or guesses at this point?

The 4th one was the new battalion they already released.

Wow. My interest in these models has dipped considerably.

I get that they're going for a retro look but....it's just not doing it for me. Seriously, though - why the hell would you make the legs part of the horse body?? The helmets for the DPs and PG both look waay over the top. Glad I have plenty of the metal versions.

The White Lions looks ok, though.

Sprue Pics are up

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440004a&prodId=prod900166a

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440004a&prodId=prod900164a

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440004a&prodId=prod900165a

The Phoenix Guard are pretty good, despite being posed oddly, along with the Dragon Princes. The White Lions disappoint being incoherent.

New plastics are on Advanced Order now.

I hate those White Lions.

Armour: Fine
Big Axe: Fine
Stupid Looking Leg Position: Ruins the model

Holy crap. Gold Phoenixes and Gold Lions much?

Damn, and I thought the prices would be in the $35 range =C.

Not to sure on the sculpts though, I prefer the older metal white lions, but the phoenix guard are nice.

I had seriously considered buying a lot of this stuff when it was first announced. I'm considerably less interested in this stuff over the mono-pose metals ESPECIALLY at those prices for plastics.

I'm really really disappointed with the Dragon Princes. Guess my "Custom Dragon Princes Plan" will still be 'on' then.

Incidentally, if anyone's looking to get rid of their Metal white lions, I'll be happy to take them off your hands .

Jin wrote:I had seriously considered buying a lot of this stuff when it was first announced. I'm considerably less interested in this stuff over the mono-pose metals ESPECIALLY at those prices for plastics.

you really expected less after greatswords?

To be honest, I was hoping (for some dumb reason or another) that only one set (again, dumb reasoning) of guys would be Goldsword prices and the other would be in the $30-35 range. Very silly of me, but in my defense, I was probably also drinking heavily at the time.

Dang, just realized that Swordmasters are no longer on the website for order either.

I wonder what the plan is for those, only making the Isle of Blood models available would be pretty dumb.

And yes, its annoying paying the same price for plastics that we did for metals when they cost far less to produce in the first place (including the price of that super expensive injected modl).

What? Are High Elfs not worth as much as a Spaz Marinz?

JohnHwangDD wrote:What? Are High Elfs not worth as much as a Spaz Marinz?

Old Joke is Old. And tedious. And tired. And unfunny. And...

You know, in retrospect, wouldn't it have made sense for GW to have generated a little publicity for these new kits by mentioning them in the much-derided "Big Announcment" article the posted on Monday?

GW? Generate publicity? For upcoming releases?

This is a foreign concept to them. Better to keep everything secret until you are physically unable to.

I like the Dragon Princes. I don't play Fantasy, but if I did, I'd definitely buy a box and convert them so each Prince would represent a different breed of D&D metallic dragon. I'm halfway tempted to do so anyway.

As others have said, the price of plastic elite infantry for WHFB just feels excessive, and I have to remind myself that it's still about the same as basic infantry from GWAU.

While the initial pictures left me feeling rather flat about the new models, taking a look at the sprue has me interested. I like how even the regular dudes in a unit still have a lot of little iconography and trinkets on their cloaks. May have to get a box each of the new kits...

For everyone's convenience a selection of official pics:




http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440004a&prodId=prod900166a




http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440004a&prodId=prod900164a




http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440004a&prodId=prod900165a


http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440004a&prodId=prod900104a

Can you list prices for those of us work-blocked from GW's site?