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SpacePanzee wrote:

em_en_oh_pee wrote:

warpcrafter wrote:

em_en_oh_pee wrote:Another gimmick from PP that I am not happy with. Seems like a new way to add further expense to the game. I would guess these will be must-have units or some such that will re-define the game and its formats, etc.

I suppose I shouldn't complain about a dynamic company, but sometimes I worry about the whole MtG eventuality my friends and I are waiting for. We may be wrong, but until we are proven so, we just stick to GW games.

Squats, the Lost and the Damned, Imperial Guard jetbikes, squig catapults, affordable resin titans from Armorcast. Shall I go on?

All of those are still playable, just like a rotated Magic card. Also, the models can be used to Count-As plenty of things. . . . . .

GW doesn't really "rotate" stuff. They do new books and models, but they rarely say "You can't use that!".

My Space Wolves Leman Russ Tank begs to differ.
(and my spez mahrine Scout with auto cannon and . . . . )

I played Magic for 12 years. Trust me, that is nothing to get upset about. I was averaging $200-300 every 3-6 months, depending on the cost/rotation, etc. That was just to keep competitive. Wizards does new sets with regularity and I just see PP as a similar concept. GW has been around for how long? 25 years or more? That they have done so little to upset things is surprising when compared to Magic. PP hasn't done too much "rotation" stuff just yet, but I am wary of them still, just because I see so many new releases, I wonder when they will start phasing out old stuff. I am going to give it 6 months to a year, before I decide. I enjoy the game, but I want to wait and see if they can balance things out a bit more and so I can make more than certain they won't be pulling any rotations post-Mk2.

The Wagon seems to suffer from tiny syndrome, how many people are supposed to be the crew for it, looks even tighter packed than a Leman Russ.

Four at most? Doesn't seem any more packed than some historical tanks, like the Renault.

Eh, just remember all heroic scale games have to compress the scale to fit some of the cooler toys.

I got over 40k's weird scale compression a long time ago, I can do that for warmachine.

George Spiggott wrote:

http://privateerpress.com/community/privateer-insider/insider-1-03-2011

I actually like it much more now I've seen the actual model.

Did anyone else notice the base is in two parts not one whole base?

Might just reduce packaging size, which could help with costs.

Laughing Man wrote:

warpcrafter wrote:Nothing any of you naysayers here say will stop me from getting one of these magnificent icons of destruction. Especially if it's resin and not metal.

*cough*

Will Schick wrote:Not only are these the largest models ever produced by Privateer Press (just take a look at the picture below!), they are also the first resin models that will be available through regular distribution.

*cough*

Have a drink of whater and GTFO

SpacePanzee wrote:

em_en_oh_pee wrote:

warpcrafter wrote:

em_en_oh_pee wrote:Another gimmick from PP that I am not happy with. Seems like a new way to add further expense to the game. I would guess these will be must-have units or some such that will re-define the game and its formats, etc.

I suppose I shouldn't complain about a dynamic company, but sometimes I worry about the whole MtG eventuality my friends and I are waiting for. We may be wrong, but until we are proven so, we just stick to GW games.

Squats, the Lost and the Damned, Imperial Guard jetbikes, squig catapults, affordable resin titans from Armorcast. Shall I go on?

All of those are still playable, just like a rotated Magic card. Also, the models can be used to Count-As plenty of things. . . . . .

GW doesn't really "rotate" stuff. They do new books and models, but they rarely say "You can't use that!".

My Space Wolves Leman Russ Tank begs to differ.
(and my spez mahrine Scout with auto cannon and . . . . )

Say it loud!

Not sure if the base comes in parts ,or if it's just pre-scored to automatically
show front arcs.


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Someone tells me that the general forum confirmed it as a single piece. I haven't read that post, though.

Pre-scored bases would be sweet, especially for that size.


I'm sold. Love the model, love the feel, and can't wait to see where these things fit into the building of an army. Will it count as a warrior model? Unit? Will spells be able to work on it? Boundless Charge on the gun charriot, if it can charge at all?

It would need melee weapons in order to charge. Just saying.


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http://privateerpress.com/community/privateer-insider/insider-1-04-2011

malfred wrote:It would need melee weapons in order to charge. Just saying.


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http://privateerpress.com/community/privateer-insider/insider-1-04-2011

Seems like this guy could be a nice Necron proxy (for that daft FW necron centipede thing) with a little converting work...

How big is the Necron thing? We're assuming this is based on a 120mm base like
the Khadoran Gun Carriage.

Hrm, I really like the war wagon though the lack of multiple horse poses is pretty lazy for what is likely an expensive centerpiece model.

The necron thing is....pretty disappointing. It looks really cool but is essentially just a Machine Wraith redux then biggerized. I would have liked Cryx's big guy to be a bit more unique.

malfred wrote:How big is the Necron thing? We're assuming this is based on a 120mm base like
the Khadoran Gun Carriage.

It's a battle engine. It'll be on a 120mm base.

I love the Wraith Engine myself. I like my Machine Wraiths so have a bigger better cooler one really sparks my interest. I like it a lot better than the Khador one, but then I suppose that's why I play Cryx and not Khador.

Oh, and the Extreme Titan, which is much the same size as the Gun Carriage, and made of the same resin, costs I think $60. Seems a good reasonable price for something of it's size compared to the price for the largest `Jacks. You could look it up on their website to correct me, I don't have time right at the moment to look it up myself.

Devilsquid wrote:Pre-scored bases would be sweet, especially for that size.


I'm sold. Love the model, love the feel, and can't wait to see where these things fit into the building of an army. Will it count as a warrior model? Unit? Will spells be able to work on it? Boundless Charge on the gun charriot, if it can charge at all?

They're a model type of their own apparently.

http://privateerpress.com/community/privateer-insider/insider-1-04-2011

I'm expecting them to be able to perform Power Attacks, though by what means I do not know. Occultation and Crippling Grasp are going to be the most interesting spell interactions that I can think of.

Laughing Man wrote:

malfred wrote:How big is the Necron thing? We're assuming this is based on a 120mm base like
the Khadoran Gun Carriage.

It's a battle engine. It'll be on a 120mm base.

I meant the FW Necron thing.

Oh, the actual FW centipede bot? Not a clue.

Ooooh, giant Wraith. Very nice. Something that big with Incorporeal?

And remember, Khador Horses can make melee attacks. Impact Attacks, CHARGE! I mean, it should be able to make impact attacks at least.

It's its own model type. Old rules will not apply.

Old rules will still apply, baring specific cavets, new model type or not. It'll just have new rules that apply as well.

Aduro wrote:Old rules will still apply, baring specific cavets, new model type or not. It'll just have new rules that apply as well.

There are no old rules. In pure game terms there are no 'horses' there is only a 'Battle Engine'.

I would be surprised if it can't 'cavalry charge' and make POW 12 melee attacks though.

em_en_oh_pee wrote:Another gimmick from PP that I am not happy with. Seems like a new way to add further expense to the game. I would guess these will be must-have units or some such that will re-define the game and its formats, etc.

I suppose I shouldn't complain about a dynamic company, but sometimes I worry about the whole MtG eventuality my friends and I are waiting for. We may be wrong, but until we are proven so, we just stick to GW games.

Yes GW gimmick free since....

Let's lay off the snarking on other game systems (all around).

malfred wrote:

They should sell it as their "Doom of Malanthai

Uhg. It honestly just looks like a cheap toy. This new picture has actually lowered my opinion of it further. Low detail and a very uninteresting aesthetic. It's a block of metal with two tubes of metal on the sides, mounted awkwardly on wheels, pulled by two horses instead of an engine. I shudder to think how much warmachine players are going to end up shelling out for that ridiculous piece of crap. Probably upwards of $50.

ph34r wrote:I shudder to think how much warmachine players are going to end up shelling out for that ridiculous piece of crap. Probably upwards of $50.

On that large of a base? I'm thinking it will be $75+ easy.

@phear

as opposed to what? a box of metal , low detail with tubes and guns on the side on wheels (okay fine tracks!) but no horses?

malfred wrote:Let's lay off the snarking on other game systems (all around).

Seriously, such a boring part of so many threads here.

ph34r wrote:Uhg. It honestly just looks like a cheap toy. This new picture has actually lowered my opinion of it further. Low detail and a very uninteresting aesthetic. It's a block of metal with two tubes of metal on the sides, mounted awkwardly on wheels, pulled by two horses instead of an engine. I shudder to think how much warmachine players are going to end up shelling out for that ridiculous piece of crap. Probably upwards of $50.

Yes, enjoy buying your codex again next year, and the year after... oh maybe you'll get new rules by december! 6th ed anyone? nope just you.