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Loving the dread kit. Still can't stand the Stormraven. Flying brick ftl

Still not a chickenhawk fan. At $66 US, though, it's probably the best bargain of the lot. The one that's priced closest to what it's worth, at least.

They want $44.50 for a plastic dread kit? Ridiculous. IMO, you've got to buy it online for 20% off just to pay what it's worth. Even then, it might still be a bit overpriced. Of course, that's par for the course with most of their models, IMO. Especially the regular dreads.

Bjorn the fell handed? Apparently, GW still hasn't caught on that Dreads *should*not*be*made*of*metal.
Sheesh.

Marneus or the classic Njal for $16.50? Please. I'd insert a punch-line, but I'm fairly certain that *IS* the punch-line. Feels like punch, at the very least!

About the only positive thing I can say about any of the Advance Order items is that, at least, the Furioso Dread seems to come with a lot of extra bits for $1.50 more than the cost of a regular Dread. You could probably use the extra bits to accessorize a few other regular Dread kits to get a horde of varying BA Dreads.

Eric

Stormraven looks fine, and at worst you can replace the top turret and the 'cover' for it looks like it's separate, ie optional.

EDIT:

MagickalMemories wrote:Bjorn the fell handed? Apparently, GW still hasn't caught on that Dreads *should*not*be*made*of*metal.
Sheesh.

Are you serious?

Anyone notice the reference to a "modified Magna-grapple" in GW's product description of the Stormraven?

Any idea what they're talking about?

Xca|iber wrote:Anyone notice the reference to a "modified Magna-grapple" in GW's product description of the Stormraven?

Any idea what they're talking about?

Dread carrying part i assume

My FLGS is expecting a Black Box any day and I pre-ordered a Stormraven and Furioso now that the prices and release dates are up.

A 360-degree view of the Stormraven just went up on the GW website. Here's today's What's New Today link.

It's a piece of Thunderhawk with the sort-of tail of the F-4 Phantom and a little of the famous "Flying Boxcar" maybe thrown in. I like it well enough.

Anyone noticed the comment Matt Ward posted at the very bottom of the Storm Raven page?

"Remember the terrified look on your opponent's face when you first fought them with your Blood Angels? Well be prepared to see it again because nothing inspires terror quite like this vehicle - it's a flying red fist of death that's going to punch their army until it begs for mercy. There is something extremely satisfying when you transport your most devasting unit (and potentially a Dreadnought) across the table and right into the face of the enemy army. And after you unleash the troops? Well, you can just blast chunks out their tanks and monsters with Bloodstrike Missiles until there's nothing left to blow up."

I guess he can't contain his inner fanboy.

MagickalMemories wrote:Bjorn the fell handed? Apparently, GW still hasn't caught on that Dreads *should*not*be*made*of*metal.
Sheesh.

You do realise this is a very old classic model they've reissued? I'm curious about the timing though as the first thing I thought when I saw the Furioso sprue was to kit bash a Bjorn. With the metal one being reissued it's cheaper to buy him on his own, which is kinda nice. I am also suspicious of the number of old models getting reissued that were done by Jes. I love his work but it looks a bit sus. I will be getting Bjorn at some point as I am going to strip my old metal dreadnought I did for a Death Co army back in the 90s. Hulking great metal models feel great.

The Stormraven would look much better if modellers simply didn't stick on either the gun turret or the weird vent thing that sits behind the turret. Those two additions make the Stormraven look just too tall, remove them and it suddenly falls into how you would expect it to look; still boxy, but not a flying brick.

L. Wrex

"Remember the terrified look on your opponent's face when you first fought them with your Blood Angels? Well be prepared to see it again because nothing inspires terror quite like this vehicle - it's a flying red fist of death that's going to punch their army until it begs for mercy. There is something extremely satisfying when you transport your most devasting unit (and potentially a Dreadnought) across the table and right into the face of the enemy army. And after you unleash the troops? Well, you can just blast chunks out their tanks and monsters with Bloodstrike Missiles until there's nothing left to blow up."

Somewhere someone is masturbating to that...

HellRestaurant wrote:"Remember the terrified look on your opponent's face when you first showed him the leaked Storm Raven pic? Well be prepared to see it again because the finished model is still ugly!"

Fixed

SlaveToDorkness wrote:

"Remember the terrified look on your opponent's face when you first fought them with your Blood Angels? Well be prepared to see it again because nothing inspires terror quite like this vehicle - it's a flying red fist of death that's going to punch their army until it begs for mercy. There is something extremely satisfying when you transport your most devasting unit (and potentially a Dreadnought) across the table and right into the face of the enemy army. And after you unleash the troops? Well, you can just blast chunks out their tanks and monsters with Bloodstrike Missiles until there's nothing left to blow up."

Somewhere someone is masturbating to that...

You caught me.... Blood Angels for LIFE!

The Dread looks awesome

Kroothawk wrote:

HellRestaurant wrote:"Remember the terrified look on your opponent's face when you first showed him the leaked Storm Raven pic? Well be prepared to see it again because the finished model is still ugly!"

Fixed

WIN!

Kroothawk wrote:

HellRestaurant wrote:"Remember the terrified look on your opponent's face when you first showed him the leaked Storm Raven pic? Well be prepared to see it again because the finished model is still ugly!"

Fixed

Yeah. Seems that first picture really was the best angle. It looks... less good from all the others; in fact it doesn't even look like a coherent vehicle, more like a bunch of random shapes glued to a Land Raider. I can scratchbuild a more pleasing shape, and will be.

There is a 360 on GW's site, we can finally see the 'ass'... nothing to write home about unfortunately...

MajorTom11 wrote:There is a 360 on GW's site, we can finally see the 'ass'... nothing to write home about unfortunately...

I can't see it at work will have to wait till later tonight. Does it have a hookup assembly or anything at least trying to represent it?

MajorTom11 wrote:There is a 360 on GW's site, we can finally see the 'ass'... nothing to write home about unfortunately...

i can't get the flash to load. it just stays stuck blank with "loading one more item" on the menu bar at the bottom of the screen.

Pyronick wrote:

MajorTom11 wrote:There is a 360 on GW's site, we can finally see the 'ass'... nothing to write home about unfortunately...

I can't see it at work will have to wait till later tonight. Does it have a hookup assembly or anything at least trying to represent it?

It's at a very slight angle, you can't see top of the underside, but there may be something there

thanks for the pic! wow, it's just as ugly from the back as that first leaked pic...

HellRestaurant wrote:

I guess he can't contain his inner fanboy.

If your boss asked you to say a few words about an upcoming product that was gonna be put in print are you telling me you would do anything but the same?

Is he supposed to make fun of it?

Claim he would never field it?

If we are gonna nerdrage and rant, at least put some thought behind it...

God, this makes me glad I started playing hordes, GW has really lost it.

Shrike remains unconvinced by the stormpelican/stormfish- type thing. It has the areodynamics of a brick, there's no way 5 marines (let alone 10) can fit in that, the wierd massive vent shadowing the turret is too big and awkward (heh heh heh- ward) and I fail to see how a dread can hang onto the thing based on those pics. The libby dread...meh. I hoped for better.
the DC dread? That's gonna be my raven guard chaplain dread...
It'll take a bit of plasticard, but I'm getting two of the stormravens, maybe even 3.

Well from what I can see there is no rig for hooking up the Dreadnaught, I guess this was to be expected really. However I think I will stick a few of my big heavy rare earth magnets to the top of dread and the bot of the hatch there and ghetto rig my own lil harness.

Does anybody know if this kit is supplied with a flying base? I see it with a valk base in some pics, but the sprue pics show no presence of one.

TBH, Flyers as a whole tend to kind of confuse me in the gaming aspect. I always have trouble figuring out how line of sight or cover would work for my brothers Valk. I assume this will play practically the same way.

shrike wrote:. It has the areodynamics of a brick, there's no way 5 marines (let alone 10) can fit in that

You just described EVERY SM vehicle in the 40K universe...

5 marines can fit in a rhino. This thing is just overstepped the "marines are contorionists" line.
rhino- looks like 5 can comftably fit.
razor- see above.
land raider- 10 marines can comftably fit.
this? 5 marines can squish in.
Oh, and most SM vehicles don't need to be aerodynamic. The TH has enough engines and stuff to keep it in the air IMO.

shrike wrote:5 marines can fit in a rhino. This thing is just overstepped the "marines are contorionists" line.
rhino- looks like 5 can comftably fit.
razor- see above.
land raider- 10 marines can comftably fit.
this? 5 marines can squish in.
Oh, and most SM vehicles don't need to be aerodynamic. The TH has enough engines and stuff to keep it in the air IMO.

The Stormraven shares the same aesthetics as all marine vehicles regardless of how you want to rationalize your stance...

that turret that people keep moaning about will look so good as a razorback turret, i have ordered one already but plan on getting 3.

as for the brick/aerodynamics criticism - its fantasy, based in the very distant future where there are hovering tanks, jet bikes, jump packs etc. they dont need to worry about aerodynamics. how aerodynamic is a borg cube? or the tardis? aerodynamics mean nothing when you have cheap abundant power and anti grav capability.

abatha wrote:
they surely will allow it eventually, the crusader was supposedly a purely BT thing but then everyone wanted them, might take a while tho, for friendly battles tho i certainly wouldnt begrudge an opponent a DA stormraven for example.. providing said someone brings along the rules (which cunningly aren't on the store site). from a fluff point of view surely blood angels dont have a greater well of resources than say marneus calgar and his little empire?

I'm just getting back into the game - are the rules for the Storm Raven in the BA codex?