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Delephont wrote:Well, if I were GW, looking at this thread and the poll, I'd say they will be doing fine in the future. Add to the general "break even" between those who say they're leaving against those who will continue, the fresh new customers they always seem to bring in, and GW may just have done it again.

While I appreciate that not everyone on Dakka has taken part in this poll, however given all the ranting that has been indulged in during the last few weeks, I'm mildly surprised by the results.

Delephont, you poor analyst you. Only 24% of those polled (at time of writing) say they will continue buying at the same rate or greater. 59% will buy at a lower rate or not at all. Not a fantastic result for any company following a major overhaul of business practice.

Cottonjaw wrote:I'm not -happy- to pay more, I'm just saying it's not exactly a world ending 20% price hike that will result in my abandoning 12 years of playing 40k. I love the game, I love the fluff, I love the models.

Complaining about the price hike isn't going to change anything. So why bother? Will it delay me starting my next army (Probably eldar)... maybe slightly.. but not any more than the price of gas and food and my utilities have delayed it as well.

Complaining alone might not.
But not buying will, even if in a small way.

people are not just fed up with this rise, but the accumalation of rises and poor decisions
Like you say there is already a squeeze on hobby funds with the cost of living going up.
So this sort of decision is poor judgement, badly handled and mistimed.

No one said it is the end of the world, for some of us it is the end of our time with GW.
No whining, no regrets, just the way it is.
Doesn't mean I cannot feel for people that are upset by the events of last week.
And why shouldn't they be upset? Just cos we aren't?

What did it for me were three things:

1) Warhammer 40k Fifth Edition
2) Cost of premiun unit boxes. I cannot justify buying 10 models for 40 dollars. I made this decision when they released the plastic greatswords.
3) Cost and content of WD....

and then the recent news broke and I am not even phased because I am already done with the game.

I will keep my current buying trend going personally. I like the force that I have been working on and plan to keep them for a while, but my trend and extra money for that matter is going into my malifaux habbit and warmahordes. So, my spending level remain as it has been, an full army at a time, but it will be PP stuff now instead of GW stuff. For that matter what I was spending on GW stuff in 1 shot I can pick up a couple of WM armies , so a plus.

Pretty much. I was already having a hard time finishing my army, but now, it seems like it will be impossible. I didn't really want to leave, GW brought it upon themselves. When newer and younger gamers with lower budgets can't get in to the game for financial reasons, that's their fault.

Will probably be starting some other games soon.

I'd already bought a few tanks for my planned Sisters army, but if GW doesn't suffer enough to undo this damage, I'll be making it with AoW miniatures or not at all. I might send them a letter come November explaining just what I'd no longer be buying because of their greed.

I stopped buying from GW years ago, apart from wash and maybe a WD to wipe my butt on here and there I would never waste my money these days on such a pathetic company.

I'm of a mood to run out and place a very large order with GW, just as a result of reading this thread!

H.B.M.C. wrote:Done my last order. GW can get fethed.

Now you'll have time to get it all painted!

Yeah, who am I kidding...

H.B.M.C. wrote:GW can get fethed.

This sentiment would have been much more powerful if not prefaced with:

H.B.M.C. wrote:Done my last order.

Supporting 40K =/= supporting GW.

I love 40k and have met some really awesome people through playing it. I will continue to collect and paint the miniatures BUT they will be through online retailers/ebay/swaps only. I've already stocked up on Dettol for stripping and Vallejo for painting. I'm sorted for a long time!

L. Wrex

i'll continue to buy GW products for a large discount from people who have already purchased and badly painted them.

hemingway wrote:i'll continue to buy GW products for a large discount from people who have already purchased and badly painted them.

Silly 12 year olds

hemingway wrote:i'll continue to buy GW products for a large discount from people who have already purchased and badly painted them.

simple green plus tooth brush does marvelous things

I'm not leaving GW, we're just "on a break".


I can't believe I just made that reference...

In the words of The Clash...


"Balls to you GW, I ain't never coming back..."


Have more then I'll ever need, am falling back on Necromunda, Gorkamorka, and Mordhiem that I've had since thier release,and will be having a Out of GW sale here in the next couple of weeks.


Time to consolidate, liquidate, and ride the bear market out until leaner times...

Either GW takes the hint, continues the road to ruin, or takes the piss.... I don't care anymore.

I don't have the energy, the time, or the efforts anymore to rage against the machine.
I'm a gamer and painter, it took GW being toolish to remind me that they weren't the "Hobby" that I started, or need to be anything other then one of a number of games, hobbys, or efforts.


I'm the bum on the end of the bar..."Yeah, I used to play GW games, good times, man, good times..."


True independent games need my attention, now. You know, the ones that's minis are still only 2 to 3 bucks and the rules sets either free, or around twenty bucks or so.

Left or leaving? No, but it is the first time I've seriously looked at historicals, Infinity, and Anima. I do have a series of Dark Angels armies to finish, though the Krieg are getting halted and Tau idea might also be going to the gutter as well.

Ozymandias wrote:Yeah, who am I kidding...

I have no skill in painting and derive no joy from partaking in it. So sue me.

Scott-S6 wrote:This sentiment would have been much more powerful if not prefaced with

I have loyalty to those that show respect to their customers, hence my last order was through Maelstrom, as a thank you to them for all they have done and for being stuck in a situation not of their own creation. Surely you can understand that?

I'm basically cutting back big time. Was on the fence on whether I wanted to pull my Tomb Kings out for the new army book. After all this mess I decided to ebay my stuff and get back into Hordes once I finish painting my IG army. I don't need any models for it, just gotta paint it up. So I'll keep that and my complete DA army and spend new cash on Hordes or other games I think.

Yes and my only other friend who plays as well,and it stoped three others from starting the game.

I thanked them on their FB page for pricing me out. Now I can finally finish the huge backlog of figs I have from years ago.

I have a salamanders army that needs Vulkan and another drop pod, both of which I will be trying to buy as cheaply as possible. I may pick up a bit of Forgeworld over the summer, but that's it.

I'm taking a break from miniatures, but I'm planning on focusing on Warmachine/Hordes and Flames of War from now on, with some 6mm Fields of Glory due to the cheapness of 6mm armies.

I have been avoiding paying retail for awhile. I buy online, buy or trade for used or scratch build / kit bash.

I winding down on fantasy after 8th was such a failure. Still play 40k but not as much now.

Will only be adding to my current Space Cats omni marine chapter, Eldar and Dark Eldar forces as needed in the future. Pretty much set in what I need right now after that last Grey Knights Order.

I'm not buying any GW products because I already have all I need, and I don't want to start a new army just yet.

I will continue to buy, but mostly just paints. I'm so far behind on minis I need to paint anyway it isn't really an issue.

Wow, thanks for all the responses, guys - I hope the voting continues

If it goes above 1,000 votes that would be a justifiably large sample size to send to GW. They'll ignore it (probably) because hey, that's what they do - if I'm really lucky I may get a patronising reply...

I will still buy just not as much. Coming from some of my other hobby's this news is not just that bad to me.

Let's take paintball for example, I played tournament paintball for many years and over that time i watched as technology grew and the price of paintball's them selves got cheaper but everything else became vastly more expensive. When i started paint was $80.00-$120.00 a case and in one tournament you might use a case (2000 paintball's for those that don't play) and your normal "higher end" paintball gun was about $400.00 . Now last year when i quit ( and finally found time for wargaming) paint was about $40.00-$60.00 a case and you were going to use at least 3-4 case's . your " high end " gun was about $1200.00. Now don"t get me wrong with each price increase came new shiny technology but not enough to justify the increase.

So i guess for me at 20% increase on say $30.00 just does not seem like much but as i have a fixed budget it will mean less purchases.

The problem with comparing to other hobbies is that there is always going to be a certain amount of oranges to apples going on.

The issue is not wargaming vs <insert hobby here> and more GW vs <other wargaming company here>.

If a single company supplying any hobby treats its customers poorly or becomes unjustifiably more expensive than its competitors, then it opens itself to criticism just as GW has done when compared with other companies supplying the same hobby.

I'm sure if you're a Paintballer (to use voryn15's example) and 'Gun's Workshop' kept hiking its prices every year and trying to restrict the activities of independant suppliers or 3rd party companies, whilst becoming unduly secretive about its own activities, it would recieve criticism from that hobby community too.

It depends, does buying from Forgeworld count as buying from GW?

Sadly, Forgeworld is a part of Games Workshop Group PLC so yes, it does...