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Calculating Commissar






Reading, Berks

Hopefully!
I tried a wash of blue over the skyward facing parts and brown over the floor facing parts to see if some very basic reflections made any difference... it's an interesting effect, but doesn't really improve things much. For silver it might need more light grey and white, with black only in the darkest recesses, but I'm not sure.


No photos sadly as my camera battery died and I can't for the life of me remember where the charger is. Doh!

   
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair





California + Philidelphia

I think Arakasi is correct here, I love the way it looks, but atm it looks like you have an awsome black wash over the white. But i belive it will look right once you cover the rest of the white on the model

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I am by no means the most qualified critic but I guess I have a little advice for your Coteaz model. You need to keep the lighting source consistent. It seems like the light hitting the left arm and the right arm are coming from different angles. Also, you need to go completely to white and black on each armor panel. The legs need to achieve a true white and a more consistent pattern of light striking it. The light should have a similar pattern to the left arm. You need a defined horizon on the chest panels. Basically, what you did on the left arm was perfect, you just need to recreate that effect all over. I know this is long and rambling but I guess my best advice would be to go on CoolMiniOrNot and study some other NMM Coteazs people have done, it should help you get a better idea of your light sourcing and how the reflection should look.

edit: Although it is SENMM I think this model would help you
http://www.coolminiornot.com/79224?browseid=4105645

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Reading, Berks

Thanks for the critique Xtceze, it's much appreciated. I always forget about CMoN when doing internet searches for ideas. Not sure why...

Another search through google has turned up a SENMM tutorial on a space marine (http://chestofcolors.com/how-to-paint-nmm-chrome-tutorial-wolf-priest/), so I'm going to start again and see how that goes


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So. Things what I lerned tonight...

1) I need my painting light where I paint... not in the kitchen being used for the lightbox

2) I need some new brushes for fine detail work

3) SENMM is fethin hard. Duh!

4) I'm not sure using an expensive finecast figure is the perfect thing to learn new techniques on!

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Spawn of Chaos





Germany

Hi!
I tried some senmm myself some time ago on a converted blood bowl orc. I think it turned out not too bad. In my experience it was very important to have really soft and even blendings. I think the main issue with your nmm and senmm is, that you have to hard blendings if you know, what I mean. They look nice, but you should use the middletones on a bigger area and use the strong colors (black/white, white/blue) only on the very edges.
Maybe you can see what I mean better by looking at my orc, even though I used green/blue for some parts and had a darker metal for the main armor, but you should get the point




I hope I was of some help and you don't mind my english

   
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Reading, Berks

I don't mind your English at all. It's far better than my German

I've decided that using a rather pricey model to "learn" on is a st00pid idea, so I spent today finally piecing together some of the Avatars of War dwarf berserker so I can run a series of experiments with skin, tattoos and NMM. It's a really nice kit that I would highly recommend to any dwarf players. Now I just need to wait for a nice day to undercoat the blighters.


   
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Reading, Berks

Oh dear. It's been a long long time since I last posted in this thread. *Rise up from the depths you beast!*

Much as Arakasi hates me painting stuff for his armies, I made him yet another model for his (as of yet) unbuilt Dark Eldar. One thing I should have done before giving it to him was actually check the photos I'd taken of it though... this isn't a particularly good one and doesn't do it justice.



Having said that, I almost didn't give it to him as I'm not sure the colours are particularly cohesive... I was experimenting with things over the 3 months it took to paint. Lucky for him, his present came with a second, unbuilt one as the first one I opened was missing one of the arms (hence the one above only having three) and netted a free replacement. I didn't think this was a massive problem though as I was planning on converting it anyway...

I forgot to bring in photos of the other things I've been painting recently, so I'll update again tonight.

Myself and Arakasi are starting to introduce DalecDec and his son to the joys of gaming. They own Dreadfleet, Lego's Heroica and the 40k starter and seem to be enjoying them all, so I started thinking back to the games that really got me interested when I first started, with the aim of tyring to get them interested in a game. the ones that stuck in my head were HeroQuest, Advanced Heroquest and then the master game... Warhammer Quest. I had a look around at the currently available options for today's generation and none of it looks quite what I wanted as there's little to no character development in any of them. I used to enjoy seeing the Quest characters evolve with some very light rp elements between adventures. I also found my old copies of Deathblow magazine yesterday too.

This got me thinking... I'm getting bored of Guard at the moment and really don't want to start a new army... but would like a project that offers plenty of scope for conversions and paint schemes, within set boundaries. I'm thinking I might start piecing together an updated version of Warhammer Quest that I can teach DalecDec (and Son) with. I can then create resin board sections as well, which could be fun. More random thoughts on this later as I sort my head out. I do need to find all the rules and cards though :/

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Decrepit Dakkanaut






Mostly, on my phone.

Random is good bro. You might even consider making pieces you can cast and sell, given what FW are up to just now with notadvancedspacecrusadehonestguv...


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Oh, and really like the contrast of tones on Deldar, too, btw.

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Reading, Berks

inmygravenimage wrote:Random is good bro. You might even consider making pieces you can cast and sell, given what FW are up to just now with notadvancedspacecrusadehonestguv...


You can be certain the thought has crossed my mind over the course of this afternoon
Though having just been through and looked at what I'd need to buy, I'm not sure of this WQ plan after all...

In other, more random news, here's the start of my Aleph Sophotech. Geez these Infinity figures are fiddly... I can hardly see the fiddly pits to paint them!


So. Question for you... keep Infinity in here with any other random (non guard) bits and bobs that I paint, or a separate thread just for the Infinity stuff?

[update]Arakasi kindly pointed out that I'd forgotten to point out that I've split the Infinity stuff out into it's own blog[/update]

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Reading, Berks

I've been doing some work on Warhammer related stuff recently (Over here...), but took the time to start painting the 25th anniversary Imperial Fist model over the weekend. He's looking a little bit grainy as the paints were thinned a little bit too much, next time I"ll try thinning down with proper thinner and gloss varnish. When they get released, I'm going to try that shiny new blue washes to try and level it out a bit. Still... he's certainly one of my better marines to date.



Speaking of which, I started piecing together the bits of another GMS Marine for Knightly. He wants a standard bolter marine with an auspex. It's just a pile of pieces at the moment, so no photos of him yet...

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Ragin' Ork Dreadnought






Albany, Australia

He's looking quite nice, definitely one of your better marines - but only because he is your latest

   
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Reading, Berks

Washes over a black/white zenithal undercoat are certainly the best way of approaching marines as it looks more natural than the edge highlighting you see on the boxes.

   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut






Madison, WI

Hey endtrans! Just found your thread. If I may comment as an owner of one of your minis.... you need to learn how to paint about as much as I need to learn how to eat pizza.

That is... not bloody much!

Great stuff mate... subscribedamundo.

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Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

Gitsplitta's Unified Painting Theory
 
   
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Reading, Berks

Thanks, that means a lot. Mmmm pizza!

I think the thing I need to learn is how to paint *consistently*. Sometimes models come out really well, other times... not so much. You lot don't get to see the failures

I also want to get the hang of things like nmm, mnmm and osl. None of them seem to be working quite right so far.


   
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Ragin' Ork Dreadnought






Albany, Australia

If we don't get to see the failures, how else can we avoid despair of our inadequate painting ability/attempt to advise you to improve?

   
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Reading, Berks

Next time I will post them for your delight. I also think you're right... the Infinity stuff should be back in here, rather than off in it's own thread. Next time I do an update related to one of those... back it comes. It's like a yo-yo thread

I still need to get my lightbox setup working properly so I can get regular update photos without having to rely upon daylight... I bought some high power led desk lamps that one site suggested should be powerful enough. They may be quite strong, but when you try to diffuse their light with the sides of my lightbox... it diffuses too much and everything goes pear shaped. I think the next experiment is these LED lights without the lightbox, to see if I can get them working... otherwise I need to go back to the drawing board and buy yet another set of lamps :/

The ones Yakface recommends in his article... can I find them in a hardware shop near me? Can I heck.

I understand the principles of photography, but for some reason I can never get a miniature photo that I'm happy with and can't for the life of me work out what I've done wrong. I even had a friend (who teaches photography) come around to double check I was doing everything right and she couldn't get it right either. We're blaming the lights...

So. What do you lot use to take photos of your models?

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Madison, WI

^ This!

edit:

OK, not that... ninja'd!

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Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

Gitsplitta's Unified Painting Theory
 
   
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Reading, Berks

And I've updated the above post since you edited your post, so there are extra questions in there

I just realised... there are failures on here. There's the one of the NMM Inquisitor failure and one of the Dwarf NMM failure

I'm beginning to sense a theme here...

   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut






Madison, WI

I had one of these... nice little kit. Good for photographing anything up to the squad or single vehicle sized level. Cheap.



19.5" Photo Tent Studio Tripod Light Photography Box (this is an e-bay listing)

I've since moved on to a larger light tent so I can photograph larger groups of figures... but Solar_lion has my old set up now, so you can ask him how he likes it. I thought it was a great little set-up.


Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

Gitsplitta's Unified Painting Theory
 
   
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Reading, Berks

That's the one I have, but I found the lights were very weak and prone to having the bulbs die... weird!

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Decrepit Dakkanaut






Madison, WI

I replaced my bulbs fairly quickly too. Found a couple of LEDs then supplemented them with a regular light shining down through the top of the box (a desk light on an arm). That seemed to work pretty well.

Trick is getting the white-balance right. It's best if you can get your camera to spot-meter automatically before each shot.

Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

Gitsplitta's Unified Painting Theory
 
   
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Calculating Commissar






Reading, Berks

I obviously just need to spend a lot longer playing around with it to find the optimal setup for my house. I think one of my problems is that the room lighting is casting a slightly different colour over things, so they look weird, even with proper white balancing before hand (and again during the photo editing stage).

My main problem is not having anywhere in the house big enough to leave the tent up all the time, so I'm limited to times when I'm not using half the kitchen worktop for cooking or casting new bases/tiles etc.

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Madison, WI

Yep, that's a big deal. Especially if your light is marginal to begin with. I'm lucky in that I've got a room just for my gaming stuff or whatever... so my light tent is permanently set up in the man cave.

Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

Gitsplitta's Unified Painting Theory
 
   
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Reading, Berks

Tonight's update is a brief look at Knightley's Red Scorpion for the Great Marine Swap



He's a basic tactical marine who will, eventually, have an auspex in his other hand. I won't be sticking the other arm on until after he's been painted

   
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Reading, Berks

So, the latest WD arrived this morning and I stopped to read the full page advert for the Golden Demon Masterclass (OSL, NMM & freehand*) just as my significant other walked past.

"Oh, that looks good. Are you going to go?" She asks
"It's expensive and I'm going up 4 weeks prior to it for the sculpting masterclass"
"So?"
"..."

Well. It looks like I've got a pass** to go (*YAY!*), but as Arakasi viciously abandons us... gets deported returns home to Oz a few weeks before hand I'll be all on my lonesome. Does anyone fancy joining me?

* These are three things that I've been trying to master on my own without much success, so it'll be interesting to see how things could fare with some hands on tuition. I'm highly unlikely to sit down and dedicate a full day to learning these things on my own.

Given that OSL is part of their remit I can't see how they can wrangle Great Swords in as the base model this time around. Both the Sculpting one this coming June and last year's Eavy Metal masterclasses included full boxes of Goldswords with the ticket price. It doesn't say what models they will be using for this one though. The advert includes a Grey Knight, a Dark Eldar and one of those fancy-schmancy Blood Angels with wings

** This probably means I shouldn't spend tooooooo much at Salute though

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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!






Adelaide, Australia

^ You are not the only one.

Notice: If you notice this notice you will notice that this notice is not worth noticing
 
   
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Ragin' Ork Dreadnought






Albany, Australia

...and they will lure you into purchasing the new paints...

   
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Reading, Berks

The WD article is already tempting me to give them a go. I like the idea of red, white and yellow that cover smoothly. Some of the new shades are really nice too (at least in print).
I'm intrigued as to what the drybrush colours would be like watered down a bit. I think I need to go have a play with them in our local store.

I had a look at the cost of buying the full set and had a minor heart attack

On a different note, I also spotted the character painting competition the GW stores are running on the 24th of April. I think Mr Inquisitor is going to be making an appearance

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Reading, Berks

It feels a bit like cheating, but I'm going to post the same photo in two of my threads as there are different things I want to discuss about them.

I mentioned that I've been trying to get the hang of NMM before. Last night I had another go on the Chaos Warrior I'm painting for my WQ rebuild thread.



It looks better than the nmm attempt earlier in this thread and some of it is looking a little rough in the photo. I didn't notice that last night, which is annoying!

It's getting there, but still not quite "it". I know I've not gone up to white for the absolute highlights, which might be part of what's wrong, but I can't decide.

Ideally I want the weapons to look like they are worn and used, but not abused. While he may worship Khorne, I think he retains a sense of honour and cares for his equipment, so it's going to be worn, but not filthy, rusty or covered in grime

   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut






Madison, WI

Interesting endtrans... and not bad at all. I like the feel it gives the weapon.


Anvildude: "Honestly, it's kinda refreshing to see an Ork vehicle that doesn't look like a rainbow threw up on it."

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